From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jan 10 12:46:50 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Thursday, January 10 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2635 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' RE: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' Re: [db] Any body rebuild a T3? Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' [db] OT: anybody interested in a 96-ish Lincoln Mark VIII LSC, west of Houston, around $4K? Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:51:51 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' how hard would it be to grow and harvest the rapeseed/canola? if they grow it in canada it should be able to grow anywhere... ;) unless of course it needs sunshine... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: # >From http://journeytoforever.org/ # # Too bad I can't grow palm trees/coconuts to grow in # S.E. Wisconsin! ;) # # Jim # # # Grow your own # # Rapeseed (Brassica Napus), or canola, produces about # 2,000 pounds of seed per acre, yielding about 100 # gallons of vegetable oil for fuel, and 1,200 pounds of # high-protein meal (seedcake) that can be used for # livestock feed or as an organic fertilizer. # # The seedcake could also be used to make ethanol, and # so could the several tons of crop wastes. # # Yields from soybeans are about 60 gallons per acre, # from coconuts more than 200 gallons per acre, and from # oil palms more than 500 gallons per acre. (See # http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html) # # # --- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" # wrote: # # > Exactly right. Easy to grow, great yields, all the # > works. # > # > J # > # > -- Jim Hoffman wrote: # > If you want to make biodiesel plant rapeseed. # > # > Jim # > # > --- john wrote: # > # > > how much ground is needed to grow the switchgrass? # > > # > > we're looking at a property with almost 5 acres # > and # > > most of it's cleared... # > > will it grow in a cool damp climate? # > > # > > if so, how much value is it to raise??? might be # > > enough incentive # > > for us to move. :) # > > # > > can they make biodiesel from it too? # > > # > > john # > > # > > # > > ----- # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps # > don't # > > rust, they mold # > > http://freegift.com ** # > > http://wagoneers.com ** # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > there's a solution for every problem; # > > problem is can we afford the solution? # > > # > # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > > # > > # > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Richard P. Welty wrote: # > > # > > # Allen Zylstra wrote: # > > # > Sounds like I could grow about 150 barrels of # > > fuel in my yard. Prices of # > > # > corn # > > # > has made it more difficult for livestock # > > raisers. Switchgrass may be # > > # > another # > > # > good source. They use sugarcane in Brazil. # > > # > # > > # although i'm a farm owner who has benefited # > from # > > the corn ethanol craze, i've # > > # never # > > # been persuaded it was the right answer. # > > objectively, grass based solutions # > > # look a lot better # > > # to me (and switchgrass ethanol isn't exactly # > > news, this study confirms what # > > # i've been # > > # hearing for a little while now.) # > > # # > > # richard # > > # # > > # # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 14:04:34 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' I don't know what type of equipment is needed for planting it and harvesting rapeseed. The switchgrass is probably harvested like hay with mower, hayrake and bailer. If rapeseed is like soybeans then you would need a combine to harvest it. Allen> Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 11:51:51 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To: jslash-at-sbcglobal.net> CC: diesel-benz-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent'> > how hard would it be to grow and harvest the rapeseed/canola?> if they grow it in canada it should be able to grow anywhere... ;)> > unless of course it needs sunshine... :)> > -----> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> there's a solution for every problem;> problem is can we afford the solution?> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote:> > # >From http://journeytoforever.org/> # > # Too bad I can't grow palm trees/coconuts to grow in> # S.E. Wisconsin! ;)> # > # Jim> # > # > # Grow your own> # > # Rapeseed (Brassica Napus), or canola, produces about> # 2,000 pounds of seed per acre, yielding about 100> # gallons of vegetable oil for fuel, and 1,200 pounds of> # high-protein meal (seedcake) that can be used for> # livestock feed or as an organic fertilizer.> # > # The seedcake could also be used to make ethanol, and> # so could the several tons of crop wastes.> # > # Yields from soybeans are about 60 gallons per acre,> # from coconuts more than 200 gallons per acre, and from> # oil palms more than 500 gallons per acre. (See> # http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html)> # > # > # --- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > # wrote:> # > # > Exactly right. Easy to grow, great yields, all the> # > works.> # > > # > J> # > > # > - -- Jim Hoffman wrote:> # > If you want to make biodiesel plant rapeseed.> # > > # > Jim> # > > # > --- john wrote:> # > > # > > how much ground is needed to grow the switchgrass?> # > >> # > > we're looking at a property with almost 5 acres> # > and> # > > most of it's cleared...> # > > will it grow in a cool damp climate?> # > >> # > > if so, how much value is it to raise??? might be> # > > enough incentive> # > > for us to move. :)> # > >> # > > can they make biodiesel from it too?> # > >> # > > john> # > >> # > >> # > > -----> # > >> # >> # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps> # > don't> # > > rust, they mold> # > > http://freegift.com **> # > > http://wagoneers.com **> # > >> # >> # ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > > there's a solution for every problem;> # > > problem is can we afford the solution?> # > >> # >> # - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> # > >> # > >> # > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Richard P. Welty wrote:> # > >> # > > # Allen Zylstra wrote:> # > > # > Sounds like I could grow about 150 barrels of> # > > fuel in my yard. Prices of> # > > # > corn> # > > # > has made it more difficult for livestock> # > > raisers. Switchgrass may be> # > > # > another> # > > # > good source. They use sugarcane in Brazil.> # > > # >> # > > # although i'm a farm owner who has benefited> # > from> # > > the corn ethanol craze, i've> # > > # never> # > > # been persuaded it was the right answer.> # > > objectively, grass based solutions> # > > # look a lot better> # > > # to me (and switchgrass ethanol isn't exactly> # > > news, this study confirms what> # > > # i've been> # > > # hearing for a little while now.)> # > > #> # > > # richard> # > > #> # > > #> # _________________________________________________________________ Make distant family not so distant with Windows Vista. + Windows Live^Y. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/digitallife/keepintouch.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_ CPC_VideoChat_distantfamily_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:05:21 -0800 From: chuck goolsbee Subject: Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' >how hard would it be to grow and harvest the rapeseed/canola? >if they grow it in canada it should be able to grow anywhere... ;) It grows in the UK so it should grow just fine here. In fact I see fields of it on occasion in Snohomish & Skagit counties as a rotated crop with corn. It is distinctive as it flowers at transforms the field into BRIGHT solid yellow in summer. I have a spare Acre... maybe I should plant it. - -- - --chuck goolsbee 02 Jetta TDi & 06 Liberty CRD arlington, wa, usa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:13:53 -0500 From: Edward Pomeroy Subject: Re: [db] Any body rebuild a T3? Eric: Have never done a Triumph, but have worked on Standard Vanguards, Hillmans and Jaguars. Anything mid 60's and earlier is probably still all British Standard (SAE type) threads though some will have Whitworth bolt heads and threads. I am doing a MG TD from 1952. Most of the fasterners are BSF which are almost identical to metric in terms of the thread pitch (1mm) only the profile of the thread is different from metric. There are also all sorts of other odd British Whitworth bolts on the beast.. Nothing metric whatsoever in 1952. Any bolt in the engine compartment or body I would expect to have normal hand threads. BTW, if you want a TR3 non-overdrive manual transmission I have one in a wood frame crate that I got in trade with som other stuff I needed for the MG. Let me know if you need some parts or the whole thing. I have no idea if it is sound internally. Externally it looks fine. I would guess it weighs about 80 lbs or so, has been in the barn for years and it would clear some floor space if someone could use it. Edward in SW Michigan Eric Ditwiler wrote: >Are the fasteners SAE or Metric? > >Are there left or right handed threads on the nut holding the compressor wheel on the shaft? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 19:52:38 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Hoffman Subject: Re: [db] Grass Biofuels 'Cut CO2 by 94 Percent' What you need to know to plant/tend/harvest rapeseed: http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/afcm/canola.html Have fun! ;) Jim - --- john wrote: > how hard would it be to grow and harvest the > rapeseed/canola? > if they grow it in canada it should be able to grow > anywhere... ;) > > unless of course it needs sunshine... :) > > ----- > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't > rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** > http://wagoneers.com ** > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > there's a solution for every problem; > problem is can we afford the solution? > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Wed, 9 Jan 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: > > # >From http://journeytoforever.org/ > # > # Too bad I can't grow palm trees/coconuts to grow > in > # S.E. Wisconsin! ;) > # > # Jim > # > # > # Grow your own > # > # Rapeseed (Brassica Napus), or canola, produces > about > # 2,000 pounds of seed per acre, yielding about 100 > # gallons of vegetable oil for fuel, and 1,200 > pounds of > # high-protein meal (seedcake) that can be used for > # livestock feed or as an organic fertilizer. > # > # The seedcake could also be used to make ethanol, > and > # so could the several tons of crop wastes. > # > # Yields from soybeans are about 60 gallons per > acre, > # from coconuts more than 200 gallons per acre, and > from > # oil palms more than 500 gallons per acre. (See > # http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_yield.html) > # > # > # --- "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" > > # wrote: > # > # > Exactly right. Easy to grow, great yields, all > the > # > works. > # > > # > J > # > > # > -- Jim Hoffman wrote: > # > If you want to make biodiesel plant rapeseed. > # > > # > Jim > # > > # > --- john wrote: > # > > # > > how much ground is needed to grow the > switchgrass? > # > > > # > > we're looking at a property with almost 5 > acres > # > and > # > > most of it's cleared... > # > > will it grow in a cool damp climate? > # > > > # > > if so, how much value is it to raise??? > might be > # > > enough incentive > # > > for us to move. :) > # > > > # > > can they make biodiesel from it too? > # > > > # > > john > # > > > # > > > # > > ----- > # > > > # > > # > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where > Jeeps > # > don't > # > > rust, they mold > # > > http://freegift.com ** > # > > http://wagoneers.com ** > # > > > # > > # > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > there's a solution for every problem; > # > > problem is can we afford the > solution? > # > > > # > > # > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > > # > > > # > > On Tue, 8 Jan 2008, Richard P. Welty wrote: > # > > > # > > # Allen Zylstra wrote: > # > > # > Sounds like I could grow about 150 > barrels of > # > > fuel in my yard. Prices of > # > > # > corn > # > > # > has made it more difficult for livestock > # > > raisers. Switchgrass may be > # > > # > another > # > > # > good source. They use sugarcane in > Brazil. > # > > # > > # > > # although i'm a farm owner who has > benefited > # > from > # > > the corn ethanol craze, i've > # > > # never > # > > # been persuaded it was the right answer. > # > > objectively, grass based solutions > # > > # look a lot better > # > > # to me (and switchgrass ethanol isn't > exactly > # > > news, this study confirms what > # > > # i've been > # > > # hearing for a little while now.) > # > > # > # > > # richard > # > > # > # > > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:46:38 -0600 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: [db] OT: anybody interested in a 96-ish Lincoln Mark VIII LSC, west of Houston, around $4K? Mentioning this for a friend of my wife, since I told her I would. ;-) I have admittedly vague info right now, but I can get details if anyone wants. Its a Lincoln Mark VIII, I'm pretty sure it's the LSC version, and I think it's a 1996 or 1997 model. Tasteful champagne-ish color. Car has in the neighborhood of 100,000 miles, and is in great condition. He got it from his former in-laws, while they were still his in-laws, and he tends to take very good care of his cars. I believe he's hoping to get $4K or a little more for it. He lives less than an hour west of Houston. Just as a tangent to TRY to relate this back to Benzes, I did a little online looking about this, and saw the late 80's Mark VII LSC, which had Ford's 5 liter V8 making 225HP. My 89 300CE's 3 liter six does 177, and the M104 introduced in 1990 with the second overhead cam was good for 215. Then again, I think the 300CE was a bit more expensive than the LSC. Any interest, drop me an email, please. Thanks for your indulgence, Alec Cordova Taylor, Texas 89 300CE, 231K ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2635 **********************************