From owner-diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Wed Jan 16 05:07:52 2008 From: diesel-benz-digest diesel-benz-digest Wednesday, January 16 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2640 Forum for Discussion of Diesel Mercedes Benz Automobiles Derick Amburgey Digest Coordinator Contents: [db] Brand new injection pump Re: [db] Brand new injection pump RE: [db] Brand new injection pump RE: [db] Re: '98 E300? (fwd) RE: [db] Brand new injection pump Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! Diesel Benz Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/diesel-benz/ Send submissions to diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to diesel-benz-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to stag-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:35:17 -0800 From: "Gary Krumian" Subject: [db] Brand new injection pump I have a brand new original injection pump for 81-85 300SD that I would like to sell. I'm sure you know dealer list on this item is $7,940 and good rebuilt ones go for over 1,000. Make a reasonable offer and I won't refuse. Thanks. Gary Inter Auto Parts, Inc. Parts and Accessories for European Automobiles www.interautoparts.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:53:57 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] Brand new injection pump which motor number is that for? will it fit the 300Ds as well? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Gary Krumian wrote: # I have a brand new original injection pump for 81-85 300SD that I would # like to sell. I'm sure you know dealer list on this item is $7,940 and # good rebuilt ones go for over 1,000. Make a reasonable offer and I # won't refuse. Thanks. # Gary # # Inter Auto Parts, Inc. # Parts and Accessories for European Automobiles # www.interautoparts.com # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:33:25 -0600 From: "Alec Cordova" Subject: RE: [db] Brand new injection pump 81-85 300SD would be the OM617 5-cylinder 3.0-liter turbodiesel, and probably no other motor, including the non-turbo 5. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:54 PM > To: Gary Krumian > Cc: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Brand new injection pump > > > which motor number is that for? will it fit the 300Ds as well? > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > there's a solution for every problem; > problem is can we afford the solution? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Gary Krumian wrote: > > # I have a brand new original injection pump for 81-85 300SD that I would > # like to sell. I'm sure you know dealer list on this item is $7,940 and > # good rebuilt ones go for over 1,000. Make a reasonable offer and I > # won't refuse. Thanks. > # Gary > # > # Inter Auto Parts, Inc. > # Parts and Accessories for European Automobiles > # www.interautoparts.com > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: [db] Re: '98 E300? (fwd) yep, that's the beauty of the honesty of friends on these lists... that's why I started the lists. :) it sure was a pretty looking car though... but unlike a jeep, it's not easily modified... ;) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Joe wrote: # Thanks, I think you saved me from a huge financial mistake. # # Joe H. # # -----Original Message----- # From: john [mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 5:02 PM # To: Joe Hughes # Subject: Re: [db] '98 E300? # John, I think the comments below are right on target. The E300D was # to be my fifth and probably final MBZ diesel and when I finally got # serious about buying one and read about the problems that owners were # having via the diesel list, it put me off completely!.. especially one ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 1:52:00 -0500 From: Subject: RE: [db] Brand new injection pump So if it's an '82-85 300D, it will fit. (I don't remember if '81 was turbo or not, I think it might have been the first year of turbo-ed 300Ds. I think they started turboing 300Ds at the same time they introduced the 126 body.) J - -----Original Message----- From: "Alec Cordova" Subj: RE: [db] Brand new injection pump Date: Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:33 pm Size: 1K To: "john" , "Gary Krumian" cc: 81-85 300SD would be the OM617 5-cylinder 3.0-liter turbodiesel, and probably no other motor, including the non-turbo 5. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net > [mailto:owner-diesel-benz-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of john > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 6:54 PM > To: Gary Krumian > Cc: diesel-benz-digest-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: [db] Brand new injection pump > > > which motor number is that for? will it fit the 300Ds as well? > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > there's a solution for every problem; > problem is can we afford the solution? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Gary Krumian wrote: > > # I have a brand new original injection pump for 81-85 300SD that I would > # like to sell. I'm sure you know dealer list on this item is $7,940 and > # good rebuilt ones go for over 1,000. Make a reasonable offer and I > # won't refuse. Thanks. > # Gary > # > # Inter Auto Parts, Inc. > # Parts and Accessories for European Automobiles > # www.interautoparts.com > # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 2:00:00 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! [sigh] That's about what I figured. I just hope that "baby step" (which I think is more like 200 baby steps) doesn't get allowed to take us to that point. Better yet, get it repealed in the interest of freedom. When will the nanny state go away? When people break up with government and fall in love with freedom again. But it will NEVER happen. People are more interested in feeling safe than being free. Enviro-whacko-ism is just one example. J - -----Original Message----- From: Edward Pomeroy Subj: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! Date: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:19 pm Size: 3K To: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net You don't really want to know the answer to that. To list some of the insanity going on in Europe - by 2012 no car can emit more than 140 grams of CO2 per some number of miles, I don't have the rules and formulas memorized but can dig it up at work if necessary. All parts of the car must be recyclable and you the buyer are paying for that cost up front when you buy a new car. To the extreme that the materials used in the car must be designed to be easily removed and recycled (if unchecked, this may kill the old car hobby in europe, there is one hell of a fight going on now over just that). As you may be aware, the nanny state now requires all trucks over 2 tons to have a trip recorder in it that logs speed and mileage and you are taxed on road usage or fined for breaking the law based on the readings, so if you are a trucker, you are locked in to so many hours of driving per day and at no more than the mandated speeds (they use team drivers to get around the driving time limits on long haul). Then you have to take a break, stop at a hotel or whatever. It is already increasing the cost of shipping intra EU like crazy. And if you are a private party that happens to want a nice large truck, you too are snared in this idiocy plus you need to get a CDL to drive your private truck (and the cost of doing so runs into the thousands of dollars). Also, in Norway for example, they passed a law that says that a truck by definition cannot carry more than 3 persons in the front seats so if you want a twin cab US truck (or a HUMMER) over there, you have to strip out the rear seats and use it only for cargo or you can't get it registered. And on and on it goes. Welcome to the brave new EU world. Our new CAFE standard is a baby step down this road, I am a proponent of letting the marketplace determine what is built. If people demand smaller vehicles, the industry will go that way, if they don't, it won't. (but by golly the elites will force you to like it!). Edward jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: >What environmentally paranoid legislation are they referencing in 2012? Some >dastardly anti-capitalist UN mandate? > >J > >-- Edward Pomeroy wrote: >I stripped out the picture - go to the website to look. >Edward > > >An advanced hybrid diesel engine, capable of returning 60mpg will power >the planned production version of Land Rover's stunning LRX, it has been >announced. > > >Tipped to go on sale in 2009, the three door cross-coupe was the star of >this year's 2008 Detroit Motor Show, and dramatically takes Land Rover >into an uncharted sector of the new car market. > >"The LRX concept delivers the powerful message that we are as serious >about sustainability as we are confident about the relevance and >desirability of our vehicles" said Phil Popham, Land Rovers managing >director. "LRX is in every respect a Land Rover, but it is a very >different Land Rover," he added. > >Though exact details of the engine are still top secret, the firm has >announced that the 2.0-litre diesel electric hybrid unit will be capable >of running on bio fuel, and is the first to feature the firm's newly >developed Electric Rear Axle Drive (ERAD). > >This will allow the car to drive in a fully electric mode at low speeds, >while retaining unbeatable off road ability and impressive on road >performance. > >With a CO2 output of 120g/km, the car meets tough new emissions >legislation, due to be introduced in 2012. > >More LAND ROVER LRX: > > o News, Auto Express News: Land Rover LRX > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! people are insecure... the world is a tough place and people just put their hope in the government to take care of them... it's a lot easier than actually dealing with it yourself, so you give up a few things in exchange... no biggie, right? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # [sigh] That's about what I figured. I just hope that "baby step" (which I think is more like 200 baby steps) doesn't get allowed to take us to that point. Better yet, get it repealed in the interest of freedom. # # When will the nanny state go away? When people break up with government and fall in love with freedom again. But it will NEVER happen. People are more interested in feeling safe than being free. Enviro-whacko-ism is just one example. # # J # # -----Original Message----- # # From: Edward Pomeroy # Subj: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! # Date: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:19 pm # Size: 3K # To: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" # cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # # You don't really want to know the answer to that. To list some of the # insanity going on in Europe - by 2012 no car can emit more than 140 # grams of CO2 per some number of miles, I don't have the rules and # formulas memorized but can dig it up at work if necessary. All parts # of the car must be recyclable and you the buyer are paying for that cost # up front when you buy a new car. To the extreme that the materials used # in the car must be designed to be easily removed and recycled (if # unchecked, this may kill the old car hobby in europe, there is one hell # of a fight going on now over just that). As you may be aware, the nanny # state now requires all trucks over 2 tons to have a trip recorder in it # that logs speed and mileage and you are taxed on road usage or fined for # breaking the law based on the readings, so if you are a trucker, you are # locked in to so many hours of driving per day and at no more than the # mandated speeds (they use team drivers to get around the driving time # limits on long haul). Then you have to take a break, stop at a hotel or # whatever. It is already increasing the cost of shipping intra EU like # crazy. And if you are a private party that happens to want a nice large # truck, you too are snared in this idiocy plus you need to get a CDL to # drive your private truck (and the cost of doing so runs into the # thousands of dollars). Also, in Norway for example, they passed a law # that says that a truck by definition cannot carry more than 3 persons in # the front seats so if you want a twin cab US truck (or a HUMMER) over # there, you have to strip out the rear seats and use it only for cargo or # you can't get it registered. And on and on it goes. Welcome to the # brave new EU world. # # Our new CAFE standard is a baby step down this road, I am a proponent of # letting the marketplace determine what is built. If people demand # smaller vehicles, the industry will go that way, if they don't, it # won't. (but by golly the elites will force you to like it!). # # Edward # # jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # # >What environmentally paranoid legislation are they referencing in 2012? Some # >dastardly anti-capitalist UN mandate? # > # >J # > # >-- Edward Pomeroy wrote: # >I stripped out the picture - go to the website to look. # >Edward # > # > # >An advanced hybrid diesel engine, capable of returning 60mpg will power # >the planned production version of Land Rover's stunning LRX, it has been # >announced. # > # > # >Tipped to go on sale in 2009, the three door cross-coupe was the star of # >this year's 2008 Detroit Motor Show, and dramatically takes Land Rover # >into an uncharted sector of the new car market. # > # >"The LRX concept delivers the powerful message that we are as serious # >about sustainability as we are confident about the relevance and # >desirability of our vehicles" said Phil Popham, Land Rovers managing # >director. "LRX is in every respect a Land Rover, but it is a very # >different Land Rover," he added. # > # >Though exact details of the engine are still top secret, the firm has # >announced that the 2.0-litre diesel electric hybrid unit will be capable # >of running on bio fuel, and is the first to feature the firm's newly # >developed Electric Rear Axle Drive (ERAD). # > # >This will allow the car to drive in a fully electric mode at low speeds, # >while retaining unbeatable off road ability and impressive on road # >performance. # > # >With a CO2 output of 120g/km, the car meets tough new emissions # >legislation, due to be introduced in 2012. # > # >More LAND ROVER LRX: # > # > o News, Auto Express News: Land Rover LRX # > # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 8:06:00 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! The people in 30s Germany thought it'd be no big deal, too...... J - -----Original Message----- From: john Subj: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! Date: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:29 am Size: 5K To: jasonbassett-at-juno.com cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net people are insecure... the world is a tough place and people just put their hope in the government to take care of them... it's a lot easier than actually dealing with it yourself, so you give up a few things in exchange... no biggie, right? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 16 Jan 2008, jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # [sigh] That's about what I figured. I just hope that "baby step" (which I think is more like 200 baby steps) doesn't get allowed to take us to that point. Better yet, get it repealed in the interest of freedom. # # When will the nanny state go away? When people break up with government and fall in love with freedom again. But it will NEVER happen. People are more interested in feeling safe than being free. Enviro-whacko-ism is just one example. # # J # # -----Original Message----- # # From: Edward Pomeroy # Subj: Re: [db] New Rover with 60MPG hybrid diesel!! You go John! # Date: Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:19 pm # Size: 3K # To: "jasonbassett-at-juno.com" # cc: diesel-benz-at-digest.net # # You don't really want to know the answer to that. To list some of the # insanity going on in Europe - by 2012 no car can emit more than 140 # grams of CO2 per some number of miles, I don't have the rules and # formulas memorized but can dig it up at work if necessary. All parts # of the car must be recyclable and you the buyer are paying for that cost # up front when you buy a new car. To the extreme that the materials used # in the car must be designed to be easily removed and recycled (if # unchecked, this may kill the old car hobby in europe, there is one hell # of a fight going on now over just that). As you may be aware, the nanny # state now requires all trucks over 2 tons to have a trip recorder in it # that logs speed and mileage and you are taxed on road usage or fined for # breaking the law based on the readings, so if you are a trucker, you are # locked in to so many hours of driving per day and at no more than the # mandated speeds (they use team drivers to get around the driving time # limits on long haul). Then you have to take a break, stop at a hotel or # whatever. It is already increasing the cost of shipping intra EU like # crazy. And if you are a private party that happens to want a nice large # truck, you too are snared in this idiocy plus you need to get a CDL to # drive your private truck (and the cost of doing so runs into the # thousands of dollars). Also, in Norway for example, they passed a law # that says that a truck by definition cannot carry more than 3 persons in # the front seats so if you want a twin cab US truck (or a HUMMER) over # there, you have to strip out the rear seats and use it only for cargo or # you can't get it registered. And on and on it goes. Welcome to the # brave new EU world. # # Our new CAFE standard is a baby step down this road, I am a proponent of # letting the marketplace determine what is built. If people demand # smaller vehicles, the industry will go that way, if they don't, it # won't. (but by golly the elites will force you to like it!). # # Edward # # jasonbassett-at-juno.com wrote: # # >What environmentally paranoid legislation are they referencing in 2012? Some # >dastardly anti-capitalist UN mandate? # > # >J # > # >-- Edward Pomeroy wrote: # >I stripped out the picture - go to the website to look. # >Edward # > # > # >An advanced hybrid diesel engine, capable of returning 60mpg will power # >the planned production version of Land Rover's stunning LRX, it has been # >announced. # > # > # >Tipped to go on sale in 2009, the three door cross-coupe was the star of # >this year's 2008 Detroit Motor Show, and dramatically takes Land Rover # >into an uncharted sector of the new car market. # > # >"The LRX concept delivers the powerful message that we are as serious # >about sustainability as we are confident about the relevance and # >desirability of our vehicles" said Phil Popham, Land Rovers managing # >director. "LRX is in every respect a Land Rover, but it is a very # >different Land Rover," he added. # > # >Though exact details of the engine are still top secret, the firm has # >announced that the 2.0-litre diesel electric hybrid unit will be capable # >of running on bio fuel, and is the first to feature the firm's newly # >developed Electric Rear Axle Drive (ERAD). # > # >This will allow the car to drive in a fully electric mode at low speeds, # >while retaining unbeatable off road ability and impressive on road # >performance. # > # >With a CO2 output of 120g/km, the car meets tough new emissions # >legislation, due to be introduced in 2012. # > # >More LAND ROVER LRX: # > # > o News, Auto Express News: Land Rover LRX # > # ------------------------------ End of diesel-benz-digest V1 #2640 **********************************