From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Sep 20 12:02:41 2001 From: xj-digest xj-digest Thursday, September 20 2001 Volume 01 : Number 1272 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia xj: History Channel videos RE: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia Re: xj: Jeep Trivia xj: Re: xj-digest V1 #1271 xj: wyoming accident (fwd) xj: RE: wyoming accident (fwd) Re: xj: 4 Wheeling XJ Pics from Last Weekend (Big Bear, CA) xj: Re: wyoming accident (fwd) xj: RE: Re: wyoming accident (fwd) xj: Help Re: xj: Help xj: OT: Flash Tragidy Tribute: XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:22:26 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: RE: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia ROFL, thanks Jonathan. Sorry that you had to explain it, but I understood. It's a kind of a joke that John and I have about him posting FSJ stuff on this list. ;o) Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Jonathan Moore Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:55 AM To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia Jeeps manufactured roughly from 1962-1991 in the form of Wagoneers, J-Trucks, Grand Wagoneers, Full Size Cherokees. Maybe you've seen one or two around. You know it's what the downsized Cherokee (XJ) was designed after. SJ was basically what it was refered to by the factory, much like XJ, MJ, DJ, CJ, TJ, YJ etc. Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:15:06 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: xj: History Channel videos Hey guys, with all the talk about "who taped it?" I thought I'd pass along a link! I know it's not the show that aired last evening, but here's one specifically on Jeeps: http://store.aetv.com/html/catalog/vp01.jhtml?id=40144&browseCategoryId=2002 7 There are more videos, but I just wanted to post that one since I did see it a while back and LOVED it! Happy exploring! Phil M. - Kent, WA 95 XJ Sport w/Stuff ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:29:54 -0400 From: Jonathan Moore Subject: RE: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia Sorry, my bad. I recently had someone ask what my 79 Wagoneer was, this was at an install party the all Jeep club I belong to was having. She owns a TJ and said she didn't know that the Wag was a Jeep. But a month ago my wife bought a 98 Chero Sport and she made the mistake of letting me drive it. Now I'm looking for one of my own, something between 93-96 tho. Have to watch those car payments. Sorry Jonathan At 09:22 AM 09/19/2001 -0700, you wrote: >ROFL, thanks Jonathan. Sorry that you had to explain it, but I understood. >It's a kind of a joke that John and I have about him posting FSJ stuff on >this list. ;o) > >Phil > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of >Jonathan Moore >Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 5:55 AM >To: xj-at-digest.net >Subject: Re: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia > > >Jeeps manufactured roughly from 1962-1991 in the form of Wagoneers, >J-Trucks, Grand Wagoneers, Full Size Cherokees. Maybe you've seen one or >two around. You know it's what the downsized Cherokee (XJ) was designed >after. SJ was basically what it was refered to by the factory, much like >XJ, MJ, DJ, CJ, TJ, YJ etc. > >Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:12:52 -0400 From: "~ djb ~" Subject: Re: xj: Jeep Trivia John, I am NOT getting any xj-digest mail. I haven't for about 3 weeks!! I only receive mail from YOU only...what's up with this??? Thanks in advance, Dan >From: john >Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >To: (Recipient list suppressed) >CC: john >Subject: xj: Jeep Trivia >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:37:54 -0700 > >for one free pair of FSJ stickers, > > What was the cost to develop the SJ models? > >What the stated cost was to bring the Jeep Wagoneer >and Jeep Gladiator lines forth? > >"Introduction of two all-new lines of vehicles-'Jeep' Wagoneer >Station Wagons and 'Jeep' Gladiator Trucks highlighted year >1962 for Willys Motors, Inc, which was re-named Kaiser Jeep >Corporation in March, 1963." > >.... > >"It was reported to have cost in excess of ________________ to >bring the new models forth. They were publicly introduced by >the company's 1,500 U.S. dealers on November 14. > >... > >(I just bought a copy of the financial summary for >Kaiser Jeep 1963 off of ebay.) > >:) >be sure to cc me on the answer, in digest mode... > john-at-wagoneers.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ > Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... > jesus, don't leave life without him, please! >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:06:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: xj-digest V1 #1271 On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, xj-digest wrote: >--> Re: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia >-->Subject: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia >-->What's an SJ? >-->Phil I thought he only sent me that response... sometimes you have to excuse him... fill thinks he's phunny... good answer jonathan... of course he's seen them he's been over to my house a number of times... :) john >-->Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:54:55 -0400 >-->From: Jonathan Moore >-->Subject: Re: xj: RE: Jeep Trivia >--> >-->Jeeps manufactured roughly from 1962-1991 in the form of Wagoneers, >-->J-Trucks, Grand Wagoneers, Full Size Cherokees. Maybe you've seen one or >-->two around. You know it's what the downsized Cherokee (XJ) was designed >-->after. SJ was basically what it was refered to by the factory, much like >-->XJ, MJ, DJ, CJ, TJ, YJ etc. >-->Jonathan ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com via PINE on Linux ** (plain text please!) ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ...and remember, leaving life without Jesus just isn't recommended... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:18:11 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: wyoming accident (fwd) I'd heard on the news that it was a Jeep Wagoneer, but the picture indicates it's an XJ, most likely a Cherokee... tragic... no one was wearing seatbelts except the guy in the 1 ton pickup that was drunk... all but the driver ejected in the Jeep... from the looks of it they both were going fast and it's hard to say from the damage if seatbelts would have spared them... :( http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2001/0916/1251765.html# ===================================================================== http://www.wagoneers.com/ john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/Courses.html ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:45:37 -0600 From: "JC Jones" Subject: xj: RE: wyoming accident (fwd) Bad accident, we heard about it on the news out here. How the heck did they get 8 people in an XJ? JC Jones http://www.wagoneer.net 1979 Jeep J-10 "Max" 1984 Grand Wagoneer "Eeyore" 1978 MB 300D "Fritz" 1986 Jeep XJ Cherokee "Junior" * * * * * =================== "They that can give up * * * * =================== essential liberty to * * * * * =================== obtain a little ============================= temporary safety ============================= deserve neither ============================= liberty nor safety." ============================= -Benjamin Franklin - -> -----Original Message----- - -> From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On - -> Behalf Of john - -> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:18 PM - -> To: xj-list; full size jeep list - -> Subject: xj: wyoming accident (fwd) - -> - -> - -> I'd heard on the news that it was a Jeep Wagoneer, but the - -> picture indicates it's an XJ, most likely a Cherokee... - -> tragic... no one was wearing seatbelts except the guy in the - -> 1 ton pickup that was drunk... - -> - -> all but the driver ejected in the Jeep... from the looks of - -> it they both were going fast and it's hard to say from the - -> damage if seatbelts would have spared them... :( - -> http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2001/0916/1251765.html# ===================================================================== http://www.wagoneers.com/ john-at-wagoneers.com http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/Courses.html ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:40:58 -0700 From: "Mike - G" Subject: Re: xj: 4 Wheeling XJ Pics from Last Weekend (Big Bear, CA) Ya, I saw a reply. Thanks for the comments. I'll have the pics I took up by this weekend. - --- mike-g-at-mike-g.net http://www.mike-g.net/ .rivet.rivet. 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, Too much to list, check my site for more information - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:13 AM Subject: Re: xj: 4 Wheeling XJ Pics from Last Weekend (Big Bear, CA) > Mike, I thought I sent a reply to this, but didn't see it, so, Great > Pics! Thanks for posting. Makes me wish I could wheel there. Jeff - > Butternut, WI > > Mike - G wrote: > > > > Well I instigated a run up in Big Bear, CA this past Saturday > > and I think we had a total of 7 XJ's including me. > > > > We did Deep Creek, John Bull, Holcomb Valley. > > > > Here's the best pics of moi: > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1242185&a=13763553&p=54191076&f=0 > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1242185&a=13763553&p=54191078 > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1242185&a=13763553&p=54191160 > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1242185&a=13763553&p=54191166 > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=1242185&a=13763553&p=54191175 > > > > All pics: > > http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1242185&a=13763553&f=0&sp=1&showall= > > true > > > > Those are pics somebody else took. I'll have about 50 pics from the > > ones I took later this weekend. Watch for the post, and ENJOY! > > :) > > > > --- > > mike-g-at-mike-g.net > > http://www.mike-g.net/ > > .rivet.rivet. > > 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, > > Too much to list, check my site > > for more information ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 14:50:12 -0700 From: "Mike - G" Subject: xj: Re: wyoming accident (fwd) It certainly hard to tell from the picture wether it's an FSJ, or an XJ, or that it's a Jeep at all. Preaty scarry. I agree with JC Jones, how do you get 8 people in ANY Jeep ? - --- mike-g-at-mike-g.net http://www.mike-g.net/ .rivet.rivet. 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, Too much to list, check my site for more information - ----- Original Message ----- From: john To: xj-list ; full size jeep list Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:18 PM Subject: xj: wyoming accident (fwd) > I'd heard on the news that it was a Jeep Wagoneer, but the picture > indicates it's an XJ, most likely a Cherokee... tragic... no one was > wearing seatbelts except the guy in the 1 ton pickup that was drunk... > > all but the driver ejected in the Jeep... from the looks of it they > both were going fast and it's hard to say from the damage if seatbelts > would have spared them... :( > > http://espn.go.com/ncaa/news/2001/0916/1251765.html# > > ===================================================================== > http://www.wagoneers.com/ john-at-wagoneers.com > http://www.wagoneers.com/UNIX/Courses.html > ===================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:17:31 -0700 From: "Phil" Subject: xj: RE: Re: wyoming accident (fwd) It was an XJ, I've done this for a living. Couple of things to tell by are the shapes of the doors, coil springs up front (eliminates the FSJ.....no chance of it being a conversion....anyone converting a FSJ to coils would know that it's not a "speed" machine) not to mention the "pressed" front bumper with bumperettes. ;o) Bloody horrible wreck though. :o( Phil - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of Mike - - G Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 2:50 PM To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: xj: Re: wyoming accident (fwd) It certainly hard to tell from the picture wether it's an FSJ, or an XJ, or that it's a Jeep at all. Preaty scarry. I agree with JC Jones, how do you get 8 people in ANY Jeep ? - --- mike-g-at-mike-g.net http://www.mike-g.net/ .rivet.rivet. 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, Too much to list, check my site for more information ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 23:52:32 -0500 (CDT) From: JEEPHEAD93-at-webtv.net Subject: xj: Help Does any body know what a ballast-bypass is and/or does? I pulled some codes from the computer on my XJ with a scanner. There were two codes: 1: faulty coolant sensor, 2: faulty ballast-bypass. I replaced the coolant sensor and reset the computer and the second code came back on. Anybody got any clues? I tried the trouble-shooter on the scanner but no luck. Steve J. 93 XJ-2.5 "MULE" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 09:50:24 -0500 From: Jeff Subject: Re: xj: Help My guess is that the Ballast is the resister used in the starting? circuit. On my '92 4.o, it is a 3" long ceramic resistor mounted to the drivers side fender well near the fire wall. Take a look in that area and once you find it, make sure it is ok and that the connections (two wires) are good. Jeff JEEPHEAD93-at-webtv.net wrote: > > Does any body know what a ballast-bypass is and/or does? I pulled some > codes from the computer on my XJ with a scanner. There were two codes: > 1: faulty coolant sensor, 2: faulty ballast-bypass. I replaced the > coolant sensor and reset the computer and the second code came back on. > Anybody got any clues? I tried the trouble-shooter on the scanner but no > luck. > > Steve J. > 93 XJ-2.5 > "MULE" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 10:51:23 -0700 From: "Mike - G" Subject: xj: OT: Flash Tragidy Tribute: I found this to be preaty moving: http://www.pulselegion.com/sanctuary/tragedy/ It's got an industrial/gothic band I like for the soundtrack, so if ever wanted to know what that kinda music sounds like, there ya go as well :). - --- mike-g-at-mike-g.net http://www.mike-g.net/ .rivet.rivet. 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, Too much to list, check my site for more information ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #1272 *************************