From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Oct 3 10:55:59 2002 From: xj-digest xj-digest Wednesday, October 2 2002 Volume 01 : Number 1524 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Re: 1988 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 rings/bearings xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Re: xj: Re: Additional body protection xj: Re: deep puddles... XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 10:12:06 -0700 From: john Subject: xj: Re: 1988 Jeep Cherokee 4.0 rings/bearings ONLY 200k? sheesh... newbie. ;) I'm driving an '87 with 280,000 on it... I had another '87 with over 275k that I sold to my son's friend, he ran it up to 320k before flipping it on the highway racing a honda... 90mph... end over end... :( My '88 wagoneer had 210,000 miles on it before my wife got broadsided by a saab... yes, the 4.0L's are durable. :) so are the transmissions... I'm installing a 4.0L out of a '96 into my '83 J10 Stepside. To answer your question, NO, do not attempt to replace the rings from the bottom. I'm reasonably sure if you drop the crank you'd be able to get the pistons out the bottom with some challenges, but the problem is you won't be able to see the ridge at the top of the cylinder, if there is one... you put in new rings and rev the motor, and break the rings... and quite possibly damage the block/cylinder walls... or just use a lot of oil... I suppose if you drop the crank and pull the head and ream it out you might be ok, and you'd also be able to pull the pistons out the top, which is recommended... remember the lower part of the cylinders won't be worn at all, so it'll be a tight fit going out the bottom anyway... I can't think of any reason why you couldn't do an in chassis ring & bearing replacement... but I'd make sure that engine compartment and axle are super clean... :) john At 09:43 AM 9/30/2002 -0700, John Sarcar wrote: >Hi, > >I have an 88 Cherokee with the 4.0 (unbelievably durable driveline!) and >200k. I am doing the rear main seal, and was wondering while I have it >apart if the rod bearings and fresh rings could be installed without >pulling the engine or trans? Sorry to bother you with this, but, I >haven't seen any other info other than your post at the Jeep forums some >time ago. Thanks in advance. The bores are clean, with only a bit of >crusty oil at the bottom of the bores. > >John > > > >Do you Yahoo!? >New DSL Internet >Access from SBC & Yahoo! - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 06:05:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 00:19:41 -0700 From: "Mike - G" Subject: Re: xj: Re: Additional body protection I'll have to get back to you on exactly what that one was in the picture, but I've tried 3 different ones and they all worked just as well as that one did. Scratch-X is in a black tube, that stuff they sell on TV (and in some car places) and that one in the picture. As far as rust underneeth, I've heard people of putting caulking, or epoxy, or some type of sealent, around the edges. But getting ripped off? Uhh... I think if you get into that sorta of situation where that large of a rock or a branch was too close and rips it off, you shouldn't have been that close anyway and you deserve it! hehe, But seriously, I guees you could just get a bigger peice, and move it, and remount. I'm not sure how well magnetic stuff would work, the side of the XJ isn't as magnetic as the short wheel base Jeeps are. I don't see why you couldn't make them magnetic yourself. I guees you could super glue some magnets to the back of the plating. That's not a bad idea actually. - ---- mike-g-at-mike-g.net . http://www.mike-g.net/ KG6MDD boom.boom.beep.beep 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Moulder To: Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: Re: xj: Re: Additional body protection > Amazing stuff - what is it? > > I'm really afraid that applying the diamond patterned metal pieces will > invite rust underneath it and if it is riveted on, could be ripped off > making more damage. Also, you must consider the weight of any decent plating > and what it would look like - ewww. > > I don't know if spray painting the whole vehicle with truck bed liner would > help as it may get scraped off. I do know they make magnetic body guards > that armor your Jeep and are removed after your run, but I've only seen them > for Wranglers. > > You could buy a passel of pillows and rope them around your Jeep. > > I think you need to either get a chain saw and clear the trails (if allowed) > or stop going on those trails or buy another 4x4 strictly for those trails > that you don't care about the damage or that can stay on track and not slide > into trees. > > There is a saying that the sign of an insane person is one who does the same > thing over and over and expects a different result each time. > > > Mike - G wrote: > > > Whoops, sorry, didn't mean to send that quite yet. As far as scratches > > go. Those scratch removing wax's actually work preaty well for the small > > surface scratches. I'll do it on rare occasions when the thing needs to > > look good for some reason or another. It fades them out a lot. You can > > still sort of see them when you get real close, but it looks a lot > > better, especially from a couple feet away. Here is some pics I took > > where I made some whipes only on the right side of my passsenger rear > > door: > > > > http://www.mike-g.net/jeep/yinyang/pics/damage/scratches1_sm.jpg > > http://www.mike-g.net/jeep/yinyang/pics/damage/scratches2_sm.jpg > > > > BTW, this is a WASHED Jeep. No matter how many times I get it washed or > > I wash it, you can still see those scratches on the left there, the > > thing looks white with scratches! Until I use the scratch remover. I > > preaty much have to do the whole thing. But like I said, I don't do it > > very often because A. they just come back from wheeling again and B. I > > don't want to completely remove the clear coat and paint, and C. I just > > don't care THAT much, I have to scratch remove the whole Jeep. hehe. > > > > Good luck! Some day I'll have rustoleom in a can painted diamond > > plating, covering the entire Jeep, with an exterior roll cage, and it > > will be a lot easier :). > > > > ---- > > mike-g-at-mike-g.net . http://www.mike-g.net/ > > KG6MDD > > boom.boom.beep.beep > > 5-6" lift, 32" tires, 4.56's, gears, > > -- > "Pretend the person you are talking about is behind you and can hear > everything - sometimes they are and you don't know it." > > tm/Houston/88NA/85XJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:40:44 -0700 From: john Subject: xj: Re: deep puddles... At 10:28 PM 10/1/2002 +0000, FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com wrote: >Hey, Jim, > Is that you standing there in the striped shirt and white shopping >bag? Should have had a lifted Jeep. >Bob >--- In FSJ-List-at-y..., "Jim B" wrote: > > http://www.minca.cz/suzuki/ any idea of what was going on there Jim? looks like a water main broke and the road collapsed... :) This looks like it was in Czechoslovkia, if you can find text I might be able to translate it. My great grandparents came from Prague, I think my uncle still has a dictionary laying around... john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #1524 *************************