From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Sep 16 07:29:30 2003 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, September 16 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1709 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: detroit - sept 22-26 xj: Re: FW: [SWB] RE: Pre-Move stuff (fwd) xj: D-44 for sale xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Re: xj: D-44 for sale xj: FS: 00 XJ added pictures here... xj: Re: D-44 for sale xj: RE: RE: Bushwacker fender flares xj: RE: RE: RE: Bushwacker fender flares XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 17:54:46 -0700 From: john Subject: xj: detroit - sept 22-26 heading to detroit sept 22 for a Unigraphics class... anyone in Livornia or whatever it's called near Detroit? john - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 18:40:09 -0700 From: john Subject: xj: Re: FW: [SWB] RE: Pre-Move stuff (fwd) will pass this along... does sound like a win-win... while you're at it maybe you could bring up some BBQ sauce... ;) (just kidding, we've got plenty up here...) Where are you heading up here? I lived in disgusta, er, Augusta back in the '70s/'80s while stationed at Ft. Gordon... I think you're heading in the right direction. :) john At 06:36 PM 9/14/2003, Eric wrote: >Hi Jim and John, > >I know Ben from the Jeep lists and he suggested I contact you. > >I am moving from Atlanta to Seattle and have 3 cars to transport. I was >hoping to find someone in the Northwest that would like a new gooseneck >utility trailer. I would use it to tow my Jeep and wifes car and then >deliver it to the new owner. I understand trailers in the south east are >$1000 - $2000 less due to our proximity to the major manufacturers. It's a >win-win deal. > >If you know someone who might be interested in this please pass this along. > >I will be leaving Atlanta 9/27 and hope to arrive Seattle 10/3. My only >requirement on the trailer is that it is 24' or longer. > >Thanks in advance, > >Regards, > >Eric >http://renegades.us/bios/munsen.html >(404) 431-7074 > >-----Original Message----- >From: Obi-Wan [mailto:bvh-at-inetnebr.com] >Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 2:19 PM >To: eejeep-at-mindspring.com >Subject: [SWB] RE: Pre-Move stuff (fwd) > > > > Any bites on the trailer? If you know anyone that might be interested, I > > will buy one new and transport my Jeep and wife's car on it then deliver >to > > the new owner. I have a freind that owns www.trailersforless.com and can > > get a good deal. > >I deleted the message where you described the situation, otherwise I'd >forward it myself, but you might try contacting Jim Blair (carnuck1-at-msn.com) >or John Meister (john-at-wagoneers.com), both of whom live in the Seattle >area and are long-time members of the FSJ-List. Tell them I sent you. >If they don't want it, they may know somebody who does. Jim in particular >is well-connected up in that area. > > -- Obi-Wan > '95.5 YJ, '77 Wag, '78 Wag, '87 GW > >-- >Ben "Obi-Wan" Hollingsworth obiwan-at-jedi.com > The stuff of earth competes for the allegiance I owe only to the > Giver of all good things, so if I stand, let me stand on the > promise that You will pull me through. -- Rich Mullins - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 22:46:48 -0700 From: "Don George" Subject: xj: D-44 for sale I got the idea that it's o.k. to offer things for sale on the list, so here goes: a D-44 rear end out of my '87 Cherokee donor car. I drove it down from Portland and it ran fine with no noise from the rear end. The previous owner said it had recent brake work. They certainly worked better than those on my '89 Comanche. I haven't had the cover off, but the somewhat mangled tag indicates it's a 3.55. If your serious I'll jack up one wheel and spin the pinion. About 7 turns for the 3.55, 7 1/2 for the 3.73, and about 8 for the 4.11-sound right? I'll take $150 for it and would rather not ship it (John M., need this to match the engine and tranny you bought from me?). Also have the 2" receiver hitch, with a plug-in for $25. Thanks much Don in Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 06:05:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:10:33 -0700 From: john Subject: Re: xj: D-44 for sale This Don in Eugene??? I sold that 4.0L figuring I wouldn't use it... not even two years later I decided to get rid of my 258 and go for a 4.0L in my '83 J10 Stepside... ended up buying a totalled '96 xj on ebay and am using that... put 4.10 gears into D44's on my J10... used the rear axle from a '75 J10 I used for a trailer... had to buy a R&P for the front... :) thanx though... my '87 xj has 245,000 miles and is doing fine with the D35/31's and 3.55s... but that's a screamin' deal for someone... :) john At 10:46 PM 9/14/2003, Don George wrote: >I got the idea that it's o.k. to offer things for sale on the list, so here >goes: a D-44 rear end out of my '87 Cherokee donor car. I drove it down from >Portland and it ran fine with no noise from the rear end. The previous owner >said it had recent brake work. They certainly worked better than those on my >'89 Comanche. I haven't had the cover off, but the somewhat mangled tag >indicates it's a 3.55. If your serious I'll jack up one wheel and spin the >pinion. About 7 turns for the 3.55, 7 1/2 for the 3.73, and about 8 for the >4.11-sound right? I'll take $150 for it and would rather not ship it (John >M., need this to match the engine and tranny you bought from me?). Also have >the 2" receiver hitch, with a plug-in for $25. >Thanks much >Don in Oregon - ------------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.WAGONEERS.com/ Snohomish, WA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold... Jesus, don't leave life without him, please! - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 23:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan Subject: xj: FS: 00 XJ added pictures here... Hey All I just took more pictures of the 2000 Cherokee I have for sale. They are at... www.flex.com/~achung/Jeep/00XJpicindex.doc Let me know if you have any questions or problems about accessing the pictures. Thanks! Mahalo Alan Chung 90 Cherokee Limited 4.6 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 10:47:21 -0600 From: "Aaron Storms" Subject: xj: Re: D-44 for sale Too bad you're not here in CO - you could easily sell it for that price. Aaron Aaron Storms High Country Performance 4x4 303.761.7379 aaronstorms-at-hcp4x4.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don George" To: "Jeep" Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:46 PM Subject: xj: D-44 for sale > I got the idea that it's o.k. to offer things for sale on the list, so here > goes: a D-44 rear end out of my '87 Cherokee donor car. I drove it down from > Portland and it ran fine with no noise from the rear end. The previous owner > said it had recent brake work. They certainly worked better than those on my > '89 Comanche. I haven't had the cover off, but the somewhat mangled tag > indicates it's a 3.55. If your serious I'll jack up one wheel and spin the > pinion. About 7 turns for the 3.55, 7 1/2 for the 3.73, and about 8 for the > 4.11-sound right? I'll take $150 for it and would rather not ship it (John > M., need this to match the engine and tranny you bought from me?). Also have > the 2" receiver hitch, with a plug-in for $25. > Thanks much > Don in Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 17:27:53 -0700 From: "Whit Hickman" Subject: xj: RE: RE: Bushwacker fender flares Did you make the inner rear wheel tubs or have them made? I am running around with big holes in the existing tubs due the extensive cutting you have to do. I can do the welding but it sure would be nice to have someone supply the tub. Thanks, Whit > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of > Vincent Bentley > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 3:46 PM > To: xj-at-digest.net > Subject: xj: RE: Bushwacker fender flares > > > I've got them on my XJ. I had as much steel removed as possible and even > trimmed the Bushwackers for full flex on 33x12.50R15 on 5"f/5.5"r > lift. New > inner rear wheel tubs custom made to allow the wheel to stuff. > Average of 3" > of steel removed from the body side. New flares are bolted on > with stainless > cap head bolts and washers. Notice the height of the flare compared to the > pinstripe. I only have enough steel under the flare for the bolt > fixing. The > rest is completely cut away and new steel sheet welded in to close up the > gaps. > > http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/photos/1377.jpg Like the rear lights? > http://www.jeepclub.co.uk/photos/1121.jpg Yes, it's right hand drive! > > The door flares clog with mud very easily and get very heavy if left to > accumulate. > > -Vince- > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net]On Behalf Of > > KLuebs-at-washgas.com > > Sent: 21 August 2003 14:24 > > To: xj-at-digest.net > > Subject: xj: Bushwacker fender flares > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Has anyone tried the Bushwacker flares??? It looks like the > front half of > > the rear flares mount to the door. I have been thinking about > doing that > > for years... They look cool in the Summit Truckstyle catalog, > > but I havent > > heard anything about them. Around $360 I think. > > > > --Kurt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 12:52:38 +0100 From: "Vincent Bentley" Subject: xj: RE: RE: RE: Bushwacker fender flares I was apprehensive about doing the work myself. A local Jeep specialist, Eliot Dunmore, who is probably the best and most trustworthy Jeep technician in the UK, did the work for me. Eliot has been working on Jeeps since the brand restarted sales in the UK in 1993. Although he doesn't drive off-road himself, his passion is Rallying and he already had plenty of experience producing this type of mod as it is often essential for competition Rally cars with wider wheels and tyres. I'm fairly certain that Eliot produced some card templates that were used to cut the tub from flat sheet steel that he later rolled into the appropriate shape. The innermost part of my wheel tubs are original, the outer edges from the top of the inner curve are new and run parallel with the tyre tread to the inside of the wing. Everything is welded up nicely and the Bushwackers conceal the welded seam all around the edge of the tub. I am really pleased with them. With a 33x12.50 on a 15x8 with 4.75" backspacing and 5.5" of lift the tyre stuffs in their as far as my leafs allow compressing the taller Rusty's Offroad bump stop. I have no rub marks in the rear after a year but the fronts have rubbed out near the coil towers and on the inside edges just above the horns. I don't know what it ramps to but I go everywhere my friends go in similarly modified Wranglers. Although I left my Jeep with Eliot for a few weeks to allow him to experiment, he reckons he can do the rears in a day now that he knows exactly where to cut. The tub is custom made to fit the cut so I don't think it will be possible to make this part in advance without making extra demands on making the cutting more precise. It's easier to scrap the new sheet steel than fit a new rear wing! The only downsides is that the Bushwackers are a mud trap even with substantial trimming of the returned edge. And at off-road events I often have to check for 'inspectors' camped out under my Jeep checking out how it's been built before I drive off. - --- Vincent Bentley w: http://www.jeepclub.co.uk t: +44(0)7900 437975 e: vince-at-jeepclub.co.uk - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Whit Hickman Sent: 16 September 2003 01:28 To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: xj: RE: RE: Bushwacker fender flares Did you make the inner rear wheel tubs or have them made? I am running around with big holes in the existing tubs due the extensive cutting you have to do. I can do the welding but it sure would be nice to have someone supply the tub. Thanks, Whit ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #1709 *************************