From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Dec 14 06:27:15 2003 From: xj-digest xj-digest Sunday, December 14 2003 Volume 01 : Number 1749 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Re: won't go fast... Re: xj: Re: Slow XJ's & Yes It Is True The Admiral Is Back Re: xj: won't go fast... Re: xj: won't go fast... xj: Steering XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:38:17 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: xj: Re: won't go fast... what air filter? ;) first thing I did was put an amsoil air filter in mine... didn't help... john Don Hansen wrote: > John, > > Have you checked the air filter for oil? My 89 was running and idleing like > crap and the filter was 90% clogged with oil due to the thin tube from the > back of the valve cover being clogged. > > -Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john meister" > To: "xj" > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:45 PM > Subject: xj: won't go fast... > > > >>Still trying to figure out why that '89 XJ with the 4.0L won't get up >>and go... the transmission shifts way too early. If you manually shift >>it it does better... >> >>just talked to the admiral (aka listmom) and his is doing about the same. >> >>alan chung if you have time perhaps you could look at this one or give >>me an idea... >> >>later, >>john >>-- >> ---- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - >>where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... >>I can hear the slap of his little feet... >>(using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:39:04 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: xj: Re: Slow XJ's & Yes It Is True The Admiral Is Back that's a thought, but when I'm not sure if it'd work or not... we'll let the admiral try it, I'm not excited about getting the pastor's xj back over here for more work. :) john Don Hansen wrote: > I wonder if the fluid and filter have ever been changed? Try the easy way > first. It occaisionally works!!!!!! > > -Don Hansen > Braintree, MA. > fixxa-at-beld.net > 1995 XJ Cherokee Sport "Henrietta" > 1998 GMC Jimmy SLT > 1988 Grand Wagoneer "Edna" > 1987 Jeep J-20 Pickup "Miss Agnes" (Retired) > 1989 MJ Comanche Pickup (2WD) "Martha" > 1988 XJ (Retired, but coming back!) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colucci B" > To: "XJ GROUP" ; "john" > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:43 PM > Subject: xj: Slow XJ's & Yes It Is True The Admiral Is Back > > > >>Greetings to the XJ World! >> >>Yes I am really back as the owner of an XJ; a nice 87 Wagoneer. I >>purchased the little fellow off a guy on E-Bay who lives in CT. He got >>it from one of those auctions where people donate their cars to charity, >>and take the tax write off. >> >>It is obvious that the little XJ was pretty well taken care of until its >>owner just gave up on it. I'm thinking it was an older person who used >>to drive the XJ to his fishing cabin only on the week-end. >> >>Yes it has no get up & go. The engine is strong enough but the trany >>just seems to move its way right through the lower gears until hits >>fourth. You have to push the accelerator a good 3/4 of the way to the >>floor to get any go power at all; and even then it just does not want to >>come out of fourth unless you floor it; then it might go back to third. >> I wish I had a tach to better monitor this entire event. Maybe the >>guy with the 85 cream color farm Wagoneer would like to sell me his >>instrument cluster, and grill & headlight assembly. Then I could get >>this Jeep the way I want it. I have tried the trany switch in both >>power & comfort modes. It still seems gutless in each mode. My old 88 >>XJ used to really get up & go with the trany switch in the power mode. >>It was almost frightening how much power that XJ had. >> >>Has anybody ever tried to disconnect the trany computer & drive their >>XJ? Can you drive the truck with this computer disconnected. Is there >>a fuse for this computer? Does anybody know how the computer acts if it >>has been toasted? Does it have like a limp home mode? It sure feels >>like it is limping right now. I am almost wondering if a wire harness >>is disconnected. That might explain why the dash switch has no affect >>on the trany shift pattern. >> >> >> >>Until The Next Dimension, >>Admiral "Coluch." >>Starfleet Headquarters >>Ohio Post >>END TRANSMISSION.................................... > > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:46:59 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: xj: won't go fast... what cat? first thing I did was elminate that possibility by testing with it out of the system... no change... put it back... john Aaron Storms wrote: > Haven't caught the whole thread, but I'm assuming you've already checked the > cat to ensure it's not clogged? Aaron > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john meister" > To: > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 2:02 AM > Subject: Re: xj: won't go fast... > > > >>Is the TPS the sensor on the left as you look at the front of the >>Throttle body? >> >>I pulled that one off and cleaned it... the oen to the right >>is spring loaded, I cleaned that too... >> >>any pictures? >> >>thanx, >>john >> >>Alan wrote: >> >>>Hey John >>> >>> Make sure the TPS is adjusted properly. I messed around with mine >>>once and when it was way off...the tranny would up shift early. Also >>>make sure you are going full throttle too, as sometimes those thottle >>>cables stretch. I fixed my stretch by putting a washer on the cable by >>>the gas pedal, so it would go full throttle without pushing hard on the >>>pedal. >>> >>>Mahalo Alan Chung 90 Cherokee Limited 4.6 >>> >>> >>> >>>__________________________________ >>>Do you Yahoo!? >>>New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. >>>http://photos.yahoo.com/ >>> >> >>-- >> ---- >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - >>where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... >>I can hear the slap of his little feet... >>(using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) >>------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 10:49:09 -0800 From: john meister Subject: Re: xj: won't go fast... thanx alan, it'll be in the digests... but I'll make a page out of this later... when I get some time... ;) john Alan wrote: > Hey John > > Uhh...the TPS looks like a potentiometer type of do hicky. Its the > one with the lever on it. The Idle Stepper motor is the one that is > spring loaded, the smaller canister looking do hicky. And btw, be sure > the TPS's little lever is pushed by the little lever on the throttle > body side. > To adjust the TPS...the input voltage is 4.67 to 5 volts. That is > check the connector on the engine harness side on pins AB or AD. One of > these will get you the voltage you need. After you determine thge input > voltage, determine the output voltage by plugging the TPS connector in, > and the breaking the back of the connector check AD or AB again. This > one will result in a lower voltage than the harness side. You want the > fraction to equal ~3.88/4.67 volts. Therfore you adjust the output > voltage to 3.88 if you have a input voltage of 4.67. You adjust the TPS > by loosening its mounting screws and rotating it. This is form the shop > manual itself, but if you take it to a dealer, the DRB II scanner > usually wants a idle % of 11-12% which is closed throttle. Anything > higher is partial open throttle which can cause high idle. If it is > below 10% or so, when you go full thorttle, it wont see the WOT % from > the TPS, this resulting is early shifting. Remember this adjustment > pertains to only auto trannys. Manual trannies have a different TPS. > So, how is that? > > Mahalo Alan Chung 90 Cherokee Limited 4.6 > > P.S. I know Ive written this before, so Im writing it from memory. > Mayeb you have it archived somewhere in your vast XJ database John? > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. > http://photos.yahoo.com/ > - -- ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** john-at-wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. ** trust Jesus ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The revolt is underway, the penguin is coming... I can hear the slap of his little feet... (using Mozilla Thunderbird on SUSE 9.0 Linux... and loving it...) - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 01:07:44 -0600 From: Tom Moulder Subject: xj: Steering When I start my Cherokee up, there is a lot of squealing as I turn the wheel. About a block down the road, it's gone. I can't get out and check because it has to be moving - any ideas? (85 XJ 2.5 auto) - -- "A day without sunshine is like night." tm/Houston/88NA/85XJ ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #1749 *************************