From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Mar 1 08:20:46 2004 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, March 1 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1791 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick xj: Re: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick xj: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick xj: administrivia: notes on using this list xj: administrivia: Digest.net contributions Re: xj: What Makes These XJ's Tick xj: Re: speackers in hatch XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 12:17:29 -0700 From: "Jason" Subject: xj: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick I think your GLUED! Both outside do right to left center is solid (upper one) Lower center swivels all around, on the Laredo and the limited both '87 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colucci B" To: "XJ GROUP" ; "john" Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:39 AM Subject: xj: What Makes These XJ's Tick > Greetings To The XJ World!! > > Here are a couple of queries to ponder. First where is the switch in > the floor mounted AT assembly that tells the steering column solenoid > that yes the Jeep is in park and it is ok to allow the key to be fully > rotated to the lock position? WHen I put the truck in park, 8 out of 10 > times I have to jiggles the shifter handle in the park position to get > it to trigger the interlock solenoid. > > On another lesser note for the trim experts; seeing as the little waggy > is the oldest XJ I have ever owned, my previous one was an 88, and yes I > am finding differences; I'll fill you all in on wiring variations at a > later time. Anyway on this 87 I can not swivel the skinny dash A/C > vertical registers left , or right. THey all seem to be permanently > fixed straight ahead. Is this normal for the older XJ's? I could > swivel the ones in my 88. It is almost like they have been glued in > place. If this is true, are they easy to replace? > > > > Until The Next Dimension, > Admiral "Coluch." > Starfleet Headquarters > Ohio Post > END TRANSMISSION.................................... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:00:22 -0700 From: "Jason" Subject: xj: Re: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick Correction on my Limited ALL do right-left, makes me wonder if parts Jeep has one glued as well... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason" To: Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 12:17 PM Subject: xj: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick > I think your GLUED! Both outside do right to left center is solid (upper > one) Lower center swivels all around, on the Laredo and the limited both '87 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Colucci B" > To: "XJ GROUP" ; "john" > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 5:39 AM > Subject: xj: What Makes These XJ's Tick > > > > Greetings To The XJ World!! > > > > Here are a couple of queries to ponder. First where is the switch in > > the floor mounted AT assembly that tells the steering column solenoid > > that yes the Jeep is in park and it is ok to allow the key to be fully > > rotated to the lock position? WHen I put the truck in park, 8 out of 10 > > times I have to jiggles the shifter handle in the park position to get > > it to trigger the interlock solenoid. > > > > On another lesser note for the trim experts; seeing as the little waggy > > is the oldest XJ I have ever owned, my previous one was an 88, and yes I > > am finding differences; I'll fill you all in on wiring variations at a > > later time. Anyway on this 87 I can not swivel the skinny dash A/C > > vertical registers left , or right. THey all seem to be permanently > > fixed straight ahead. Is this normal for the older XJ's? I could > > swivel the ones in my 88. It is almost like they have been glued in > > place. If this is true, are they easy to replace? > > > > > > > > Until The Next Dimension, > > Admiral "Coluch." > > Starfleet Headquarters > > Ohio Post > > END TRANSMISSION.................................... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 19:20:51 -0500 From: Jesse Barbieri Subject: xj: Re: What Makes These XJ's Tick It is actually a cable that connects the keylock to the shifter in the floor mounted AT. In the middle of the cable, near the heater on the driver side, there is a solenoid for the brake. This is so you cannot take the jeep out of park without stepping on the brake. I disconnected this solenoid in my '87 cherokee because it would get real hot. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colucci B" To: "XJ GROUP" ; "john" Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:39 AM Subject: xj: What Makes These XJ's Tick > Greetings To The XJ World!! > > Here are a couple of queries to ponder. First where is the switch in > the floor mounted AT assembly that tells the steering column solenoid > that yes the Jeep is in park and it is ok to allow the key to be fully > rotated to the lock position? WHen I put the truck in park, 8 out of 10 > times I have to jiggles the shifter handle in the park position to get > it to trigger the interlock solenoid. > > On another lesser note for the trim experts; seeing as the little waggy > is the oldest XJ I have ever owned, my previous one was an 88, and yes I > am finding differences; I'll fill you all in on wiring variations at a > later time. Anyway on this 87 I can not swivel the skinny dash A/C > vertical registers left , or right. THey all seem to be permanently > fixed straight ahead. Is this normal for the older XJ's? I could > swivel the ones in my 88. It is almost like they have been glued in > place. If this is true, are they easy to replace? > > > > Until The Next Dimension, > Admiral "Coluch." > Starfleet Headquarters > Ohio Post > END TRANSMISSION.................................... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 07:05:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. 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For more details, see the following web page: http://www.digest.net/digest-contribution.html A copy of this message may be found on the web at: http://www.digest.net/contribution-message.txt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 23:59:44 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Kummel Subject: Re: xj: What Makes These XJ's Tick Well, there is nothing in the collumn or in the console that does what you are looking for. To find the culprit, you will need to crawl under the Jeep. On the passenger side, on the transmission, you will see a shaft that is sticking out of what looks like a pot-metal pie-shaped protrudance opposite where the shift lever connects on the drivers. This has a bundle of wires leading into the engine compartment that perform all kinds of stuff. The pie-shaped protrudance has a bolt on the top and a nut around the shaft. You will need to loosen both. The nut around the shaft is screwed on a slotted boss. Scribe the position it is pointed at on the body of the pie shaped protrudance so you can identify that you've moved it. the upper bolt hole is slotted, the pie-shaped thingy will rotate on the shaft to the back and the front of the Jeep. With the Jeep in Park, move it slightly and tighten the upper bolt. Try to start the Jeep. Keep on doing this until you get it right. Then you will need to test that the reverse lights come on (yes, this controls the reverse lights...and the neutral start as well! Plus it sends information as to what gear you're in as well! You may need to play with this thing for quite a while to get it just right.. If no amount of fiddling will work, you will need to remove it, open it up, clean out the grease that is packed inside, sand the metal contacts and refill with new silicon grease. This happens quite frequently on pre-90's jeeps. Seems that the grease hardens and no longer prevents the contacts from fouling. This is not an easy job because the cabling is routed in the most inaccessible place in the engine compartment and usually the shaft is so corroded, the pie-shaped thing will no longer slide off...If you force it, it will break. the backside is bakelite and it will break...no...shatter! If it breaks and you need to replace it, you will be spending $180 at your local jeep place...and waiting for them to order it! the part number is 83503172. If you need, I've got some pictures I can post and some tips and pointers from when I replaced mine!. Ed web/gadget guru - --- Colucci B wrote: > Greetings To The XJ World!! > > Here are a couple of queries to ponder. First where > is the switch in > the floor mounted AT assembly that tells the > steering column solenoid > that yes the Jeep is in park and it is ok to allow > the key to be fully > rotated to the lock position? WHen I put the truck > in park, 8 out of 10 > times I have to jiggles the shifter handle in the > park position to get > it to trigger the interlock solenoid. ===== In 1913, Lee De Forest was prosecuted by U.S. government officials for claiming to potential investors that his company, RCA, would soon be able to transmit the human voice over the Atlantic Ocean. The prosecuting officials argued that his claim was so utterly ridiculous that he was surely ripping off investors. He was ultimately released but not before being admonished by the judge to stop making any more fraudulent claims. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:34:01 -0500 From: KLuebs-at-washgas.com Subject: xj: Re: speackers in hatch The speakers I used are actually cheap Pyle three-ways. Got 'em off E-bay. The sub is also a cheap E-bay purchse, Legacy. I'm very happy with the way it sounds though. I've got the speakers all driven by the biggest Jensen amp that I could find, then through a three way crossover from Crutchfield. About the weight, by the time you cut the hole for the speaker, there really isn't very much of the particle board rectangle left, but you are definately correct that it could be made lighter... - --Kurt ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #1791 *************************