From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Nov 2 07:58:15 2004 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, November 2 2004 Volume 01 : Number 1946 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: SV: miles per liter --> mpg RE: xj: Steering in the right direction Re: xj: Steering in the right direction Re: xj: SV: miles per liter --> mpg RE: xj: Steering in the right direction xj: Re: miles per liter --> mpg xj: Re: [db] Worlds fastest diesel dragster xj: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg xj: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg xj: Metric Memories of an OLD FART Re: xj: Metric Memories of an OLD FART xj: Re: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:54:30 +0100 From: "Sune Cullberg" Subject: xj: SV: miles per liter --> mpg Europi do it the other way,,liters/100km. Why 100km, not 10 or 1000..? Probably to get a easy number, my cherokee on a good day takes 13liters per 100km, but in town maybe 20. There is a target for manufacturers to make a "3-liter" car, at the moment VW Lupo is availible and yes, it`s a diesel... /Sune Cullberg Sweden - -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] Fvr john Skickat: den 1 november 2004 05:09 Till: diesel-benz list; full size jeep list; xj-list; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com Dmne: xj: miles per liter --> mpg (from a british site, mpl = miles per liter... of course those are probably imperial miles...0 It would be nice to find something from the continent... how do they do it? 100km/ x liters? ??? it's been too long... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 18:16:43 +0400 From: Boney Varghese Subject: RE: xj: Steering in the right direction Hey guys I wanted to change the steering wheel. How do I get it off? Do you recommend any particular brands? Cheers Boney Varghese Ph: +971 4 335 2419 Fx: +971 4 335 2419 Mob: +971 50 545 0436 - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim Blair Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:00 PM To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: xj: Steering in the right direction A: Light spray grease or oil on the liftgate stuff to keep away the rust monster. Same with the squeaky steering. It could also be the bearing inside the column or the horn ring is worn through. If you take the steering wheel off and lube the bottom where the contact ring is, the noise will go away if it's the simple fix. The steering noise at full turn IS normal and will extremely shorten your belt's life if done too often! From: Boney Varghese Subject: xj: Steering in the right direction Hey guys Help me out with this. I seem to hearing squeaking noises from the steering column while making a turn.freaking me out. also when I turn the steering all the way to the right or left I hear this distinct hissing sound. again the mechanic says that's normal with power steering? Is it time to run him down? What's with this "lubrication of steering linkages", it seems to be all over the maintenance book but my mechanic says that the steering linkage is closed up and doesn't require to be frequently lubricated. The lift gate support/shocks seems to show slight signs of rust. do they need to be lubricated. any special lube or anything else I should keep in mind Cheers Boney Varghese ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:29:34 -0700 From: "Aaron Storms" Subject: Re: xj: Steering in the right direction There's quite a large selection of aftermarket steering wheels (Grant, etc.), though I have replaced several of the older plastic steering wheels with newer Jeep leather covered versions. Just take a flat blade screwdriver and pop the little center rubber horn cap off, then a phillips screwdriver to remove the horn guts. Then you'll need a puller with two long bolts to remove your actual steering wheel. Reverse the process and you're done! Aaron - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Boney Varghese" > Hey guys > I wanted to change the steering wheel. How do I get it off? Do you > recommend > any particular brands? > Cheers > Boney Varghese ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:46:06 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: SV: miles per liter --> mpg I remember converting all that stuff when I lived over there. :) I miss the Autobahns. :) thanx, john On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Sune Cullberg wrote: >-->Europi do it the other way,,liters/100km. Why 100km, not 10 or 1000..? >-->Probably to get a easy number, my cherokee on a good day takes 13liters per >-->100km, but in town maybe 20. There is a target for manufacturers to make a >-->"3-liter" car, at the moment VW Lupo is availible and yes, it`s a diesel... >--> >-->/Sune Cullberg >-->Sweden >--> >-->-----Ursprungligt meddelande----- >-->Fren: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] Fvr john >-->Skickat: den 1 november 2004 05:09 >-->Till: diesel-benz list; full size jeep list; xj-list; >-->WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com >-->Dmne: xj: miles per liter --> mpg >--> >-->(from a british site, mpl = miles per liter... of course those are probably >-->imperial miles...0 >--> >-->It would be nice to find something from the continent... how do they do it? >-->100km/ x liters? ??? it's been too long... >--> >-->john >--> ---- >--> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >--> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 07:54:43 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: xj: Steering in the right direction On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Boney Varghese wrote: >-->Hey guys >--> >-->I wanted to change the steering wheel. How do I get it off? Do you recommend >-->any particular brands? you have an airbag in your steering wheel, right? and controls for your cruise, right? either way, you take the screws out of the back of the steering wheel holding the airbag, then lift that out, you'll see a big nut in the middle, take that off, then get a wheel puller and lift it off... insert new wheel, replace nut and you're on the way... john >--> >-->Cheers >--> >-->Boney Varghese >-->Ph: +971 4 335 2419 >-->Fx: +971 4 335 2419 >-->Mob: +971 50 545 0436 >--> >-->-----Original Message----- >-->From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of Jim >-->Blair >-->Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 9:00 PM >-->To: xj-at-digest.net >-->Subject: Re: xj: Steering in the right direction >--> >-->A: Light spray grease or oil on the liftgate stuff to keep away the rust >-->monster. Same with the squeaky steering. It could also be the bearing inside >--> >-->the column or the horn ring is worn through. If you take the steering wheel >-->off and lube the bottom where the contact ring is, the noise will go away if >--> >-->it's the simple fix. The steering noise at full turn IS normal and will >-->extremely shorten your belt's life if done too often! >--> >--> >-->From: Boney Varghese >-->Subject: xj: Steering in the right direction >--> >-->Hey guys >--> >--> >--> >-->Help me out with this. >--> >--> >--> >-->I seem to hearing squeaking noises from the steering column while making a >-->turn.freaking me out. also when I turn the steering all the way to the right >-->or left I hear this distinct hissing sound. again the mechanic says that's >-->normal with power steering? Is it time to run him down? >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->What's with this "lubrication of steering linkages", it seems to be all over >-->the maintenance book but my mechanic says that the steering linkage is >-->closed up and doesn't require to be frequently lubricated. >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->The lift gate support/shocks seems to show slight signs of rust. do they >-->need to be lubricated. any special lube or anything else I should keep in >-->mind >--> >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->Cheers >--> >--> >--> >-->Boney Varghese >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:47:27 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: xj: Re: miles per liter --> mpg It's easy to go from M/L to Miles per US Gallon. Multiply M/L by 3.78 9 mpl = 33.02 mp/USG 8 mpl = 29.24 7 mpl = 25.46 6 mpl = 21.68 They go by liters per 100 km. The larger the number, the worse the fuel economy! John wrote: doing some research, ran across this useful info: 9 mpl = 40.5 mpg 8 mpl = 36 mpg 7 mpl = 31.5 mpg 6 mpl = 27 mpg (from a british site, mpl = miles per liter... of course those are probably imperial miles...0 It would be nice to find something from the continent... how do they do it? 100km/ x liters? ??? it's been too long... john ---- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:07:08 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: [db] Worlds fastest diesel dragster it gets better Mike. :) http://dhraonline.com/ so, instead of NOx we just use propane? :) so, how many 240d's can we get into this competition? I supposed it could be a problem... I mean how many sundials and sand vials are available at one time? ;) john On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Mike Frank wrote: >-->http://www.scheiddieselmotorsports.com/drag.html >--> >-->1/4 mile, 200mph. >--> >-->Mike Frank >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 16:31:27 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg a nautical mile is not a mile... ;) I'm so confused... working with airplanes and boats and Diesels and gas and windows and unix... it's all so confusing sometimes. ;) john On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Edward Pomeroy wrote: >-->John! You do us engineers shame, a mile is a mile is a mile, it is >-->imperial gallons that are larger than ours. >--> >-->I was just visited by a friend from the old continent and were comparing >-->notes on Diesels, his VW TDI gets 100 KM per 6 L. >--> >-->Ed >--> >-->john wrote: >--> >-->>doing some research, ran across this useful info: >-->> >-->>9 mpl = 40.5 mpg >-->>8 mpl = 36 mpg >-->>7 mpl = 31.5 mpg >-->>6 mpl = 27 mpg >-->> >-->> >-->>(from a british site, mpl = miles per liter... of course those >-->>are probably imperial miles...0 >-->> >-->>It would be nice to find something from the continent... how do >-->>they do it? 100km/ x liters? ??? it's been too long... >-->> >-->>john >-->> ---- >-->> >-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:03:13 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Edward Pomeroy wrote: >-->My 300D does not swim, does yours? :-) actually I was thinking about that today... or was it yesterday... :) (either day, they shouldn't leave me near car parts and extra chassis unsupervised... ;) >-->I deal with European auto homologation issues in my work, drives me to >-->drink some nights (only single malt). I may be hitting a nerve here but >-->I think it is time for the US to just go fully metric and adopt EU I don't know... reminds me too much of Jimmy Carter... ;) >-->automotive standards (not the taxes - thank you). It would make my life >-->easier (one can dream). john >--> >-->Ed >--> >--> >-->john wrote: >--> >-->>a nautical mile is not a mile... ;) >-->> >-->>I'm so confused... working with airplanes and boats >-->>and Diesels and gas and windows and unix... >-->> >-->>it's all so confusing sometimes. ;) >-->> >-->>john >-->> >-->> >-->>On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Edward Pomeroy wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->>>-->John! You do us engineers shame, a mile is a mile is a mile, it is >-->>>-->imperial gallons that are larger than ours. >-->>>--> >-->>>-->I was just visited by a friend from the old continent and were comparing >-->>>-->notes on Diesels, his VW TDI gets 100 KM per 6 L. >-->>>--> >-->>>-->Ed >-->>>--> >-->>>-->john wrote: >-->>>--> >-->>>-->>doing some research, ran across this useful info: >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->>9 mpl = 40.5 mpg >-->>>-->>8 mpl = 36 mpg >-->>>-->>7 mpl = 31.5 mpg >-->>>-->>6 mpl = 27 mpg >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->>(from a british site, mpl = miles per liter... of course those >-->>>-->>are probably imperial miles...0 >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->>It would be nice to find something from the continent... how do >-->>>-->>they do it? 100km/ x liters? ??? it's been too long... >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->>john >-->>>-->> ---- >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->>>-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->>>-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->>>-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->> >-->>>-->> >-->>>--> >-->>> >-->>> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->>------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 20:26:46 -0500 From: "Daugherty, Walter W. (Laser)" Subject: xj: Metric Memories of an OLD FART John, It was Gerald Ford that tried to foist the metric system upon us. His other brilliant idea was 'Whip Inflation Now' which was a PR campaign complete with buttons, bumper stickers.... a strange time... But Jimmy Carter was the worst president in my lifetime...... I still miss the canal ....... the Malaise' speech was the nadir of American politics in the 20th century...... I guess I am showing my age.... sorry to bore all of you Gen X'ers...... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 17:48:01 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Metric Memories of an OLD FART no, actually jimmy carter is no longer the worst president... I think monica lewinsky showed us who is... BTW, heard something on the radio this morning about how osama bin laden likes kerry... in fact, the translation of his latest video indicates that voting for bush is declaring war... while voting for kerry is making a truce... you know, osama liked bill clinton too... I wonder why osama doesn't like mr. bush. Didn't realize that osama was a democrat... I remember how the iranians at the embassy weren't too fond of mr. reagan either... I guess the iranians must be democrats as well... funny how that works... ah yes... memories... :) remember the pueblo? we'll save that story for another time... ;) john On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Daugherty, Walter W. (Laser) wrote: >-->John, >--> >-->It was Gerald Ford that tried to foist the metric system upon us. >--> >-->His other brilliant idea was 'Whip Inflation Now' which was a PR >-->campaign complete with buttons, bumper stickers.... a strange time... >--> >-->But Jimmy Carter was the worst president in my lifetime...... >-->I still miss the canal ....... the Malaise' speech was the nadir >-->of American politics in the 20th century...... >--> >-->I guess I am showing my age.... sorry to bore all of you Gen X'ers...... >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 07:58:05 -0500 From: "Don Hansen" Subject: xj: Re: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg 6028 feet, IIRC. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "Edward Pomeroy" Cc: "diesel-benz list" ; "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 7:31 PM Subject: xj: Re: [db] miles per liter --> mpg > a nautical mile is not a mile... ;) > > I'm so confused... working with airplanes and boats > and Diesels and gas and windows and unix... > > it's all so confusing sometimes. ;) > > john > > > On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Edward Pomeroy wrote: > > >-->John! You do us engineers shame, a mile is a mile is a mile, it is > >-->imperial gallons that are larger than ours. > >--> > >-->I was just visited by a friend from the old continent and were comparing > >-->notes on Diesels, his VW TDI gets 100 KM per 6 L. > >--> > >-->Ed > >--> > >-->john wrote: > >--> > >-->>doing some research, ran across this useful info: > >-->> > >-->>9 mpl = 40.5 mpg > >-->>8 mpl = 36 mpg > >-->>7 mpl = 31.5 mpg > >-->>6 mpl = 27 mpg > >-->> > >-->> > >-->>(from a british site, mpl = miles per liter... of course those > >-->>are probably imperial miles...0 > >-->> > >-->>It would be nice to find something from the continent... how do > >-->>they do it? 100km/ x liters? ??? it's been too long... > >-->> > >-->>john > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->>----------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > >-->>----------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #1946 *************************