From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Apr 14 01:45:02 2005 From: xj-digest xj-digest Thursday, April 14 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2051 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Tricks to removing a bolt Re: xj: local law lunacy... but BioDiesel may be ok... xj: Re: local law lunacy... but BioDiesel may be ok... xj: another speed bump... XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:01:39 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: xj: Tricks to removing a bolt I don't think lowering it is a viable option, several reasons... tranny mount, engine mount, exhaust, axle, oil pan... raising it should be simple... if you do lower it you will stress the tranny mount. john On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Ed Kummel wrote: >-->Lifting the engine may be an option. >-->My Jeep has ABS, so I'm a little afraid of messing >-->with the booster and such. >-->As a last resort, I may try that. >-->Ed >-->web/gadget guru >--> >-->--- john wrote: >-->> On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Loeb wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->Perhaps, as a last resort, you could disconnect >-->> the engine mount on that >-->> >-->side and lower the engine enough to get >-->> something on there with >-->> >-->> I don't think it'll lower... raising could be an >-->> option... or remove >-->> the brake booster to get a straight shot at it... >-->> >-->> I wonder if the flat rate manual provides an >-->> indication of what is normally >-->> involved... >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->leverage? When my passenger side engine mount >-->> bolts sheared off on my >-->> >-->'87, it was not problem getting the stubs out >-->> since I was able to jack >-->> >-->the engine up to a height where I had plenty of >-->> clearance to work on it. >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->>From: Ed Kummel >-->> >-->>Subject: xj: Tricks to removing a bolt >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->>I have all the parts removed, Injector rail, >-->> heat >-->> >-->>shield and all the bolts off of the >-->> intake/exhaust >-->> >-->>manifold...except for one. It's the one all the >-->> way in >-->> >-->>the back. I got the upper one off, but there is >-->> one >-->> >-->>just under that right up against the >-->> firewall.... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >--> >-->> >--> Loeb >-->> >--> Mechatronics Product Design Engineering >-->> Manager >-->> >--> >-->> >--> Microtech Systems >-->> >--> 2 Davis Dr. >-->> >--> Belmont, CA 94002 >-->> >--> Phone: 650.596.1900 x113 >-->> >--> Fax: 650.596.1915 >-->> >--> mailto:loeb-at-microtech.com >-->> >--> http://www.microtech.com >-->> >--> >-->> >--> 1977 C-27 #3178 ~ ~ ~ (\_~ ~ ~ >-->> >--> >-->> >--> "Never doubt that a few committed >-->> >--> individuals can change the world. >-->> >--> Indeed, it is the only thing that >-->> >--> ever has" - Margaret Mead >-->> >--> >-->> >-->[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type >-->> text/x-vcard which had a name of loeb.vcf] >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** >-->> http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't >-->> rust, they mold. >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >-->"I'm not an expert, but I *did* stay at a Holiday Inn Express once..." >--> --Holiday Inn Commercial >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:02:46 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: local law lunacy... but BioDiesel may be ok... well, it wouldn't be so bad if I couldn't park for free on the street outside the office... if I got here early enough. ;) john On Tue, 12 Apr 2005, Ed Kummel wrote: >-->Just be glad you don't work/live in that other >-->"Washington" (DC that is...) >-->My sister worked on Embassy Row and eventually worked >-->her way up the ranks to get an indoor parking garage >-->space for the priviledge of paying $600/month. When >-->she *left* (read, "laid-off"), the parking price went >-->up to over $700/month... >-->Ed >-->web/gadget guru >--> >-->--- john wrote: >-->> I raised the issue about why my company has to >-->> charge me >-->> a parking fee for the "priviledge" of working here >-->> in Seattle. >-->> >-->> I'm paying $5.00 a day, or $70/mo to park in the >-->> company owned building. >-->> King County/Seattle, WA is trying to force people to >-->> take >-->> buses or carpools to get here. Problem is my work >-->> hours are >-->> not static, and commuting by bus or carpool would >-->> add as much as >-->> an hour or MORE to my commute time. >-->> >-->> If I took the "rapid/express" bus my commute time >-->> would be over 1.5hrs. >-->> >-->> My typical commute time is 35 to 45 minutes, >-->> depending on whether it's >-->> raining, sunny or someone smacked someone else or a >-->> guardrail... (sun >-->> is worse than rain for some strange reason... ;) >-->> There are times >-->> when I can make the 26 miles in right at 30 >-->> minutes... no I won't >-->> tell you how fast I was going, I'll just say I was >-->> keeping up with >-->> traffic... >-->> >-->> But my point is that public transportation has >-->> failed miserably. It >-->> does not solve the problem and is a waste of >-->> resources. They make >-->> carpool only lanes and exits that are utilized less >-->> than 15 to 25% of the >-->> time while the main lanes are packed solid. They >-->> are trying to force >-->> behavior that is simply not working for the vast >-->> majority of us. >-->> >-->> Anyway, someone here did some research on the >-->> Biodiesel thing >-->> as I raised this as an alternative to public >-->> transportation... >-->> >-->> you know it's kind of scarey when what I'm doing is >-->> acceptable >-->> to the liberal treehugging mindset... and it's the >-->> same thing >-->> they criticized just a few years ago... I was >-->> burning waste veggie >-->> oil in my rabbit Diesel 23 years ago... before Neil >-->> Young took an >-->> interest in it. ;) But that's ok, if I can get >-->> these folks to >-->> like Diesels then maybe the next step is to get them >-->> to read >-->> the Bible... :) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> --------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> The response I got from my metro contact: >-->> Basically, she just says it's a matter of time >-->> before the Commute Trip Reduction taskforce takes a >-->> look at Biodiesel... >-->> >-->> But they have not done so yet.... >-->> >-->> from: -at-METROKC.GOV] >-->> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:26 AM >-->> Subject: RE: CTR Law Question >-->> >-->> As far as I know the State's CTR Task Force in >-->> Olympia >-->> has not taken on the "Biodiesel question" but it's >-->> probably just a matter of time before they do. Here >-->> is a >-->> link to some related stores and info: >-->> >-->> >-->http://search.wsdot.wa.gov/search?q=biodiesel&btnG=Search&site=www&client=www&proxystylesheet=www&output=xml_no_dtd >-->> >-->> I attended the "Farm Aid" concert in Auburn last >-->> summer, and Neil Young >-->> was there talking about a type of true biodiesel >-->> that was made from excess >-->> corn product I believe. Here is a link to some >-->> articles related to that: >-->> >-->> >-->http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Neil+Young%2C+Biodiesel >-->> >-->> Thanks for your inquiry--it makes me think that we >-->> need to have a link on our >-->> CTR website to the WSDOT site, so I will work with >-->> our marketing guy on that. >-->> >-->> -----Original Message----- >-->> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:31 AM >-->> Subject: CTR Law Question >-->> >-->> >-->> Hi P...., >-->> Is the law ever going to take into account >-->> individuals who may not be able >-->> to use alternate commute modes, but try to do their >-->> part by using biodiesel >-->> instead of gas? I know it does not take into >-->> account the traffic congestion >-->> aspect of the law but it certainly does the >-->> environmental. >-->> Thanks, >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** >-->> http://freegift.net ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't >-->> rust, they mold. >-->> >-->------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >-->"I'm not an expert, but I *did* stay at a Holiday Inn Express once..." >--> --Holiday Inn Commercial >-->Make Yahoo! your home page >-->http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:35:06 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: xj: Re: local law lunacy... but BioDiesel may be ok... A: Sounds like they are talking about Willyfuel (as in Willy Nelson) that my wife was reading about last month (I'm still going LPG at $1.40 a gallon and a 1,000 gallon home tank for heat and fuel) Because of the "unique" geography of the Seattle area, public transport is difficult to design around, but to top that, there are LOTS of corrupt fingers in the pie. Many of the Yea or Nay crowd have companies with malls and they want to keep their area isolated so (for example) Eastside shopers will stay at Bellvue Square rather than go across the lake to downtown or to Southcenter. (The reason the light rail is going nowhere near Southcenter or past Northgate is because Seattle doesn't get a dime from the other ares. It's the tail wagging the dog syndrome) Same reasoning applies to bus service to the toney neighborhoods. The people living there don't want it connected to where hood rats can jump on and cruise by to rip off their houses. Same reasoning for the light rail going UNDER the expensive part of Seattle (with no surface access) If they took the roadway cues from the design I practically handed them (everyone I have showed it to said that it was pure genius till they discovered I didn't have an engineers degree after my name!) the huge backlogs would be near zero. Especially at the worst intersections on I-5 and I-90, I-405, etc. John wrote: I raised the issue about why my company has to charge me a parking fee for the "priviledge" of working here in Seattle. I'm paying $5.00 a day, or $70/mo to park in the company owned building. King County/Seattle, WA is trying to force people to take buses or carpools to get here. Problem is my work hours are not static, and commuting by bus or carpool would add as much as an hour or MORE to my commute time. If I took the "rapid/express" bus my commute time would be over 1.5hrs. My typical commute time is 35 to 45 minutes, depending on whether it's raining, sunny or someone smacked someone else or a guardrail... (sun is worse than rain for some strange reason... ;) There are times when I can make the 26 miles in right at 30 minutes... no I won't tell you how fast I was going, I'll just say I was keeping up with traffic... But my point is that public transportation has failed miserably. It does not solve the problem and is a waste of resources. They make carpool only lanes and exits that are utilized less than 15 to 25% of the time while the main lanes are packed solid. They are trying to force behavior that is simply not working for the vast majority of us. Anyway, someone here did some research on the Biodiesel thing as I raised this as an alternative to public transportation... you know it's kind of scarey when what I'm doing is acceptable to the liberal treehugging mindset... and it's the same thing they criticized just a few years ago... I was burning waste veggie oil in my rabbit Diesel 23 years ago... before Neil Young took an interest in it. ;) But that's ok, if I can get these folks to like Diesels then maybe the next step is to get them to read the Bible... :) john - --------------------------------------------- The response I got from my metro contact: Basically, she just says it's a matter of time before the Commute Trip Reduction taskforce takes a look at Biodiesel... But they have not done so yet.... from: -at-METROKC.GOV] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:26 AM Subject: RE: CTR Law Question As far as I know the State's CTR Task Force in Olympia has not taken on the "Biodiesel question" but it's probably just a matter of time before they do. Here is a link to some related stores and info: http://search.wsdot.wa.gov/search?q=biodiesel&btnG=Search&site=www&client=www&proxystylesheet=www&output=xml_no_dtd I attended the "Farm Aid" concert in Auburn last summer, and Neil Young was there talking about a type of true biodiesel that was made from excess corn product I believe. Here is a link to some articles related to that: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Neil+Young%2C+Biodiesel Thanks for your inquiry--it makes me think that we need to have a link on our CTR website to the WSDOT site, so I will work with our marketing guy on that. - -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:31 AM Subject: CTR Law Question Hi P...., Is the law ever going to take into account individuals who may not be able to use alternate commute modes, but try to do their part by using biodiesel instead of gas? I know it does not take into account the traffic congestion aspect of the law but it certainly does the environmental. Thanks, ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 01:40:31 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: xj: another speed bump... called a tranny shop today about the 700r4, figured curtis won't have time to do a rebuild if he's going to get superdawg done by the end of june... anyway, the guy basically discouraged the idea of rebuilding this 700r4... but I'm going to check two other shops, one that jim b recommended and one that my son recommended. also looking for a used on. The shop today said to look for an '86, grab my modulator and valve body... If I can't resolve the transmission issue I'm thinking about doing the 3.0L TD in the '86 chief... it'll be a bit involved since I'll have to get a different front core support, but I need to get a Diesel on the road suitable of burning veggie oil or I'm going to be swimming in it. ;) I need to figure out an inexpensive way of making it work... and also do determine if my '91 2.5L Turbo Diesel OM 602.962 will tolerate veggie oil... if it does then I could get an aux tank for it and do the conversion on it... thoughts? fwiw, I'm not going to spend $700+ for a conversion from greasel or whatever their name is... I need to find time to look at the biodiesel process... I think that will be ok in my 602. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2051 *************************