From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Apr 19 14:54:11 2005 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, April 19 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2056 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this Re: xj: Re: riddle me this RE: xj: Re: riddle me this Re: xj: Re: riddle me this Re: xj: riddle me this Re: xj: Re: riddle me this Re: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP Re: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP Re: xj: Re: riddle me this Re: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:01:53 -0600 From: "Aaron Storms" Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this I don't think any posts are unappreciated Jesse - at least you posted a possible solution. Sometimes folks just gather up all the fix-actions and try them all to see if any solve their problem and forget to respond back to the list with a thanks. Or, you've hit the solution on the head and there's no need for further discussion maybe? Aaron - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Barbieri" >I believe the last suggestion I had was to disconnect the EGR valve...I >don't recall who asked the original question, but I do remember that my >post was very unapreciated. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Moulder" >> What did you do to make a statement such as that? I think your answer is >> perfectly logical. I'll check it out in the morning. Thanks. >> >> Jesse Barbieri wrote: >>> I would check the ground to the engine block. Then I would check the >>> 12v cable that goes to the "big stupid silver relay" that is right >>> behind the battery. >>> Nobody ever likes my posts, but I figured since I am awake I might as >>> well post one. >>> Jesse. >>>> scenario: Started Jeep, drove 100 yards to exit gate of apartment, jeep >>>> stalls, try to restart but everything electrical is dead EXCEPT the >>>> headlights and interior lights. Wipers, electric windows, alarm, >>>> starting system, etc. - all are dead. >>>> Is there anyway it could be contributed to bad gas (not mine, the >>>> Jeep). >>>> WOuld it be a fuse, bad wiring, sun spots... anybody? >>>> tm/Houston >>>> 85 Jeep Cherokee Laredo / 2.5 / 2 dr / auto / 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:11:37 -0400 From: Jesse Barbieri Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this Aaron, You could be right. Hey I have a job interview today! A software/graphics company about 20 miles from me called me up this morning. It has been months since I had a real job. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Storms" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:01 AM Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this >I don't think any posts are unappreciated Jesse - at least you posted a >possible solution. Sometimes folks just gather up all the fix-actions and >try them all to see if any solve their problem and forget to respond back >to the list with a thanks. Or, you've hit the solution on the head and >there's no need for further discussion maybe? Aaron > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jesse Barbieri" >>I believe the last suggestion I had was to disconnect the EGR valve...I >>don't recall who asked the original question, but I do remember that my >>post was very unapreciated. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom Moulder" >>> What did you do to make a statement such as that? I think your answer is >>> perfectly logical. I'll check it out in the morning. Thanks. >>> >>> Jesse Barbieri wrote: >>>> I would check the ground to the engine block. Then I would check the >>>> 12v cable that goes to the "big stupid silver relay" that is right >>>> behind the battery. >>>> Nobody ever likes my posts, but I figured since I am awake I might as >>>> well post one. >>>> Jesse. > >>>>> scenario: Started Jeep, drove 100 yards to exit gate of apartment, >>>>> jeep >>>>> stalls, try to restart but everything electrical is dead EXCEPT the >>>>> headlights and interior lights. Wipers, electric windows, alarm, >>>>> starting system, etc. - all are dead. >>>>> Is there anyway it could be contributed to bad gas (not mine, the >>>>> Jeep). >>>>> WOuld it be a fuse, bad wiring, sun spots... anybody? >>>>> tm/Houston >>>>> 85 Jeep Cherokee Laredo / 2.5 / 2 dr / auto / 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 10:19:22 -0400 From: "Daugherty, Walter W. \(Laser\)" Subject: RE: xj: Re: riddle me this I appreciate you Jesse. You helped me out with the plastic dashboard piece for the cigarette lighter. Don't take silence to be a bad thing.. Silence is Golden !! No News is Good News !! Okay a question for the group... I am putting together a mutt lift for my 1993 XJ and wanted to bounce this off the group brain (fountain of knowledge). I have ZJ springs and new leafs which will give 3 inches. I have the spacers for the coils and blocks for the leafs to give another 1-1/2 to 2 inches. Just bought matched UCA's and LCA's for the front axle. I am almost there... My questions.. 1. Do I definately need a T/C drop for 4-1/2 to 5" ?? 2. How about brake hoses ?? I have heard to use YZ hoses... ?? 3. Adjustable control arm ?? Or re-drill the thru hole at the attach? Did I overlook anything? Thanks for your advice in advance.... (please don't be silent on this one... ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 09:35:51 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Aaron Storms Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this Cool - hope you land the gig; let us know how it turns out. Aaron - -----Original Message----- From: Jesse Barbieri Aaron, You could be right. Hey I have a job interview today! A software/graphics company about 20 miles from me called me up this morning. It has been months since I had a real job. Gilpin County News PO Box 93 Black Hawk, CO 80422 303.582.0133 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:41:19 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: xj: riddle me this A: Fusible link or 1/2 the fuse box melted off (happened to my old Comanche and I just stopped it from happening in my current one. It was from the heater fan drawing too much juice and melting the connector) Other possibility is the ignition switch snapped in half. (slider electric portion above the brake pedal to the left of the steering column) From: Tom Moulder Subject: xj: riddle me this scenario: Started Jeep, drove 100 yards to exit gate of apartment, jeep stalls, try to restart but everything electrical is dead EXCEPT the headlights and interior lights. Wipers, electric windows, alarm, starting system, etc. - all are dead. Is there anyway it could be contributed to bad gas (not mine, the Jeep). WOuld it be a fuse, bad wiring, sun spots... anybody? - - -- tm/Houston 85 Jeep Cherokee Laredo / 2.5 / 2 dr / auto / 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 08:42:28 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this ??? I don't recall seeing any questions that weren't answered? From: Jesse Barbieri Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this I have many unanswered posts here. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:09:44 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP Steve, Can you please send me pics. Like I said the other day I am interested in this for my daughter. Thanks > > From: Steven Luftman > Date: 2005/04/19 Tue AM 01:15:39 EDT > To: xj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > > THE RIG RUNS GREAT! It tracks great, I drove it 60 miles on the freeway > yesterday. The AC Works, the radio works, except for the two speakers > that are/were attached to the hatch. If anyone wants it speak now or > it's going to the wrecking yard. > Pictures on request. > Steve > > On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:23 PM, john wrote: > > > hard to day if it's not driveable... > > > > look at the way it's lined up... does it roll? > > does it track straight, are the springs ben? > > > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 gzempich-at-cox.net wrote: > > > >> -->Thanks for the quick response. My son has a 92 sport that we > >> converted to 4wd. Now I am looking for one for my daughter. Since the > >> impact occured on the rear wheel I would guess that it is bent or not > >> drivable correct? I would also guess that the body from the front > >> seats is trash? > >> --> > >> -->Any pictures? > >> -->> > >> -->> From: Steven Luftman > >> -->> Date: 2005/04/18 Mon PM 05:52:45 EDT > >> -->> To: xj-at-digest.net > >> -->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > >> -->> > >> -->> It is a 4 door. It was a trim level during the 90's, positioned > >> under the Laredo, I believe. > >> -->> Steve > >> -->> -----Original Message----- > >> -->> From: gzempich-at-cox.net > >> -->> Sent: Apr 18, 2005 2:17 PM > >> -->> To: xj-at-digest.net > >> -->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > >> -->> > >> -->> I have never heard of a Jeep Country Is the country 2 door? > >> -->> > > >> -->> > From: Steven Luftman > >> -->> > Date: 2005/04/17 Sun PM 12:25:22 EDT > >> -->> > To: xj-at-digest.net > >> -->> > Subject: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > >> -->> > > >> -->> > I'm selling my 1993 XJ Jeep Cherokee Country. > >> -->> > > >> -->> > The Good- > >> -->> > Everything works great! Well except for the rear hatch. (see > >> "The Bad") > >> -->> > > >> -->> > The Bad- > >> -->> > a guy ran a stop sign at 40 mph into it. He hit me right > >> behind the rear wheel on the passenger side, the frame appears > >> straight. The hatch came flying off and the rear passenger door on > >> that side opens, but not to well. > >> -->> > > >> -->> > It has 173,000 miles, and still runs strong, 4wd and a 5 SPEED > >> TRANNY, the AC was just fixed. Power windows, door locks, drivers > >> seat. > >> -->> > FIRST $250 that picks it up in Los Angeles, gets it. > >> -->> > Thanks, > >> -->> > Steve > >> --> > > > > ---- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:13:58 -0400 From: Subject: Re: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP Please send pics, If I purchase I would try to have someone pick it up and store it until I can make it to LA. > > From: Steven Luftman > Date: 2005/04/19 Tue AM 01:15:39 EDT > To: xj-at-digest.net > Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > > THE RIG RUNS GREAT! It tracks great, I drove it 60 miles on the freeway > yesterday. The AC Works, the radio works, except for the two speakers > that are/were attached to the hatch. If anyone wants it speak now or > it's going to the wrecking yard. > Pictures on request. > Steve > > On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:23 PM, john wrote: > > > hard to day if it's not driveable... > > > > look at the way it's lined up... does it roll? > > does it track straight, are the springs ben? > > > > john > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 gzempich-at-cox.net wrote: > > > >> -->Thanks for the quick response. My son has a 92 sport that we > >> converted to 4wd. Now I am looking for one for my daughter. Since the > >> impact occured on the rear wheel I would guess that it is bent or not > >> drivable correct? I would also guess that the body from the front > >> seats is trash? > >> --> > >> -->Any pictures? > >> -->> > >> -->> From: Steven Luftman > >> -->> Date: 2005/04/18 Mon PM 05:52:45 EDT > >> -->> To: xj-at-digest.net > >> -->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > >> -->> > >> -->> It is a 4 door. It was a trim level during the 90's, positioned > >> under the Laredo, I believe. > >> -->> Steve > >> -->> -----Original Message----- > >> -->> From: gzempich-at-cox.net > >> -->> Sent: Apr 18, 2005 2:17 PM > >> -->> To: xj-at-digest.net > >> -->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > >> -->> > >> -->> I have never heard of a Jeep Country Is the country 2 door? > >> -->> > > >> -->> > From: Steven Luftman > >> -->> > Date: 2005/04/17 Sun PM 12:25:22 EDT > >> -->> > To: xj-at-digest.net > >> -->> > Subject: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP > >> -->> > > >> -->> > I'm selling my 1993 XJ Jeep Cherokee Country. > >> -->> > > >> -->> > The Good- > >> -->> > Everything works great! Well except for the rear hatch. (see > >> "The Bad") > >> -->> > > >> -->> > The Bad- > >> -->> > a guy ran a stop sign at 40 mph into it. He hit me right > >> behind the rear wheel on the passenger side, the frame appears > >> straight. The hatch came flying off and the rear passenger door on > >> that side opens, but not to well. > >> -->> > > >> -->> > It has 173,000 miles, and still runs strong, 4wd and a 5 SPEED > >> TRANNY, the AC was just fixed. Power windows, door locks, drivers > >> seat. > >> -->> > FIRST $250 that picks it up in Los Angeles, gets it. > >> -->> > Thanks, > >> -->> > Steve > >> --> > > > > ---- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:45:28 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this maybe you should realize if you don't hear from some of us after you post that means you done good... ;) we're not into the "me too" type posts... post good info, you don't hear from us. always good to hear from you Jesse, good luck on the interview. john On Tue, 19 Apr 2005, Jesse Barbieri wrote: > -->Aaron, > --> > --> You could be right. Hey I have a job interview today! A > -->software/graphics company about 20 miles from me called me up this morning. > -->It has been months since I had a real job. > --> > --> > -->----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Storms" > --> > -->To: > -->Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 10:01 AM > -->Subject: Re: xj: Re: riddle me this > --> > --> > -->> I don't think any posts are unappreciated Jesse - at least you posted a > -->> possible solution. Sometimes folks just gather up all the fix-actions and > -->> try them all to see if any solve their problem and forget to respond back > -->> to the list with a thanks. Or, you've hit the solution on the head and > -->> there's no need for further discussion maybe? Aaron > -->> > -->> > -->> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Barbieri" > -->> > -->> > I believe the last suggestion I had was to disconnect the EGR valve...I > -->> > don't recall who asked the original question, but I do remember that my > -->> > post was very unapreciated. > -->> > -->> > -->> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Moulder" > -->> > > What did you do to make a statement such as that? I think your answer > -->> > > is perfectly logical. I'll check it out in the morning. Thanks. > -->> > > > -->> > > Jesse Barbieri wrote: > -->> > > > I would check the ground to the engine block. Then I would check > -->> > > > the 12v cable that goes to the "big stupid silver relay" that is > -->> > > > right behind the battery. > -->> > > > Nobody ever likes my posts, but I figured since I am awake I might > -->> > > > as well post one. > -->> > > > Jesse. > -->> > -->> > > > > scenario: Started Jeep, drove 100 yards to exit gate of apartment, > -->> > > > > jeep > -->> > > > > stalls, try to restart but everything electrical is dead EXCEPT > -->> > > > > the > -->> > > > > headlights and interior lights. Wipers, electric windows, alarm, > -->> > > > > starting system, etc. - all are dead. > -->> > > > > Is there anyway it could be contributed to bad gas (not mine, the > -->> > > > > Jeep). > -->> > > > > WOuld it be a fuse, bad wiring, sun spots... anybody? > -->> > > > > tm/Houston > -->> > > > > 85 Jeep Cherokee Laredo / 2.5 / 2 dr / auto / 4x4 > --> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:52:32 -0400 (EDT) From: john Subject: Re: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP steve, if you want to send me a couple pix < 800x600 with no spaces in file name, descriptive, 92sport-steve-1.jpg or such... I'm on the road, in portland, should be home tonight and can put them on my server. oh... yeah, don't try to send them to the list... john-at-wagoneers.com john On Tue, 19 Apr 2005 gzempich-at-cox.net wrote: >-->Steve, >--> >-->Can you please send me pics. Like I said the other day I am interested in this for my daughter. >--> >-->Thanks >-->> >-->> From: Steven Luftman >-->> Date: 2005/04/19 Tue AM 01:15:39 EDT >-->> To: xj-at-digest.net >-->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP >-->> >-->> THE RIG RUNS GREAT! It tracks great, I drove it 60 miles on the freeway >-->> yesterday. The AC Works, the radio works, except for the two speakers >-->> that are/were attached to the hatch. If anyone wants it speak now or >-->> it's going to the wrecking yard. >-->> Pictures on request. >-->> Steve >-->> >-->> On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:23 PM, john wrote: >-->> >-->> > hard to day if it's not driveable... >-->> > >-->> > look at the way it's lined up... does it roll? >-->> > does it track straight, are the springs ben? >-->> > >-->> > john >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> > On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 gzempich-at-cox.net wrote: >-->> > >-->> >> -->Thanks for the quick response. My son has a 92 sport that we >-->> >> converted to 4wd. Now I am looking for one for my daughter. Since the >-->> >> impact occured on the rear wheel I would guess that it is bent or not >-->> >> drivable correct? I would also guess that the body from the front >-->> >> seats is trash? >-->> >> --> >-->> >> -->Any pictures? >-->> >> -->> >-->> >> -->> From: Steven Luftman >-->> >> -->> Date: 2005/04/18 Mon PM 05:52:45 EDT >-->> >> -->> To: xj-at-digest.net >-->> >> -->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP >-->> >> -->> >-->> >> -->> It is a 4 door. It was a trim level during the 90's, positioned >-->> >> under the Laredo, I believe. >-->> >> -->> Steve >-->> >> -->> -----Original Message----- >-->> >> -->> From: gzempich-at-cox.net >-->> >> -->> Sent: Apr 18, 2005 2:17 PM >-->> >> -->> To: xj-at-digest.net >-->> >> -->> Subject: Re: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP >-->> >> -->> >-->> >> -->> I have never heard of a Jeep Country Is the country 2 door? >-->> >> -->> > >-->> >> -->> > From: Steven Luftman >-->> >> -->> > Date: 2005/04/17 Sun PM 12:25:22 EDT >-->> >> -->> > To: xj-at-digest.net >-->> >> -->> > Subject: xj: Selling my XJ CHEEP >-->> >> -->> > >-->> >> -->> > I'm selling my 1993 XJ Jeep Cherokee Country. >-->> >> -->> > >-->> >> -->> > The Good- >-->> >> -->> > Everything works great! Well except for the rear hatch. (see >-->> >> "The Bad") >-->> >> -->> > >-->> >> -->> > The Bad- >-->> >> -->> > a guy ran a stop sign at 40 mph into it. He hit me right >-->> >> behind the rear wheel on the passenger side, the frame appears >-->> >> straight. The hatch came flying off and the rear passenger door on >-->> >> that side opens, but not to well. >-->> >> -->> > >-->> >> -->> > It has 173,000 miles, and still runs strong, 4wd and a 5 SPEED >-->> >> TRANNY, the AC was just fixed. Power windows, door locks, drivers >-->> >> seat. >-->> >> -->> > FIRST $250 that picks it up in Los Angeles, gets it. >-->> >> -->> > Thanks, >-->> >> -->> > Steve >-->> >> --> >-->> > >-->> > ---- >-->> > >-->> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> > -- >-->> > ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** >-->> > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. >-->> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> > -- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://wagoneers.com ** ** http://freegift.net ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2056 *************************