From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Jul 15 10:39:01 2005 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, July 15 2005 Volume 01 : Number 2133 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: wagoneers.com back on line! xj: hello world \n xj: Re: hello world \n xj: administrivia: notes on using this list xj: testing continued... xj: wagoneers.com is working! XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:50:09 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: xj: wagoneers.com back on line! I put wagoneers.com back on line yesterday at lunch time. DNS is resolving it from a few places as of midnight. I'm still having some issues with email from comcast and digest.net to my server, but am receiving real email from a handful of sources, some aren't even spam! :) The webserver does appear to be working, however I'm still trying to configure JohnMeister.com to work properly. I may have lost a few digests, unless I can get a restore from where the server had been hosted before. I haven't heard from Richard at mbz.org /vrx.net for a couple of weeks. I'll try to give him a call first chance I get. I was in Amsterdam over the 4th and heading to Tokyo at the end of the month so I've been quite busy. vehicle status: - - shadowfax, still getting 30mpg, ran my second 5 gallons of wvo through him without problems, wonderful smell. Filtered at 15 to 30 microns this time. New pump coming from Northern Hydraulics, the 12v transfer pump originally received was apparently defective. - - superdawg... the 6.2L Diesel is on a hook hanging over the chassis... I'm going to order a new 4 row radiator designed for chevy conversions in FSJs! - - the Jimmy - curtis is going to swap the tranny and fix the ps pump and send it back home... it'll come with the extra tanks from the 3/4T gmc and my old fuel selector valve, going to test the commute using only wvo in preparation for using Superdawg as the daily driver. - - white 92 xj sport - bought four new injectors, installed last night, but #6 went in hard and I screwed up the o-ring, gas all over the place... need to fix tonight, then it's up on craigslist for sale. :) - - blue 86 xj chief - ready to go, just need to take pictures, fixed the strange noise, lubed the u-joints, much better now, they're tight and solid, just dry from sitting. Might try to get the a/c working better, but otherwise it's clean, not green (jim. ;) and ready to find a new home. Well back to sys admin stuff... john ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: hello world \n testing one two three.... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:50:33 -0400 From: "Jesse Barbieri" Subject: xj: Re: hello world \n PING! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; "diesel-benz list" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:53 AM Subject: xj: hello world \n > testing one two three.... > > john > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:05:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. Persons who read the list via email are automatically members, but readers of the FTP archive are not, and need to contact me (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) and get your name added to the list of "permitted senders". b) has your email address changed? some of you have had changes in your email address. your old address still works, and is still on the list, but your From: line shows a new address. this can happen for various reasons; you may have changed jobs or ISPs, and left a forward in place, or your IT staff may have fiddled with the email system. you will need to unsubscribe your old email address and subscribe the new one. this may require my involvement, if you can't figure out a way to get your old address off the list using the conventional majordomo commands. you can use the majordomo "which" command to probe for old addresses. send a message to majordomo-at-digest.net with one or more which commands in the body, one per line. to check for potential addresses for Fred Flinstone, formerly of bedrock.org, the following commands can be sent: which flintstone which bedrock note that the matches above might return any of the following addresses, if they appear in the list (in other words, you can use vagueness and incompleteness in your recollection as a tool): Fred.Flinstone-at-bedrock.org fflinstone-at-wilma.bedrock.org flintstonef-at-bedrock.com c) do you have more than one email address? if so, only the subscribed addresses can post, unless you contact me (see 1.a) above for relevant information) d) are you using (intentionally or accidentially) special "features" of your mail client? [this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? [7 bit restriction lifted experimentally on 8/2/00 -- film at 11] unfortunately, there are "issues" if i permit any character set other than old fashioned 7 level ASCII; therefore, you need to avoid national character sets that include various accents, umlauts, national currency characters such as the British pound symbol, etc. i) are you unintentionally including complete digests in your reply? You need to check and make sure you cut down replys to the minimal size; digests are between 20,000 and 25,000 characters in length, and if you include a complete digest in your reply, it clearly won't make the 10,000 character limit. By the way, this feature is intentional. j) Are you using a "bad" ISP or mail relay? See http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html for more information about Digest.Net policies about email. k) Is the error message you get back "User Unknown"? If so, you may be running afoul of spam control severices (again, see http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html) When these services register a hit, the error code 550 is returned. 550 is a generic code that many broken mail systems report as "user unknown". The "rejectlog" entries for the previous day's mail traffic on digest.net may be viewed at http://www.digest.net/rejectlog.01 Some of you may find it useful or instructive to use the telnet program to connect directly to port 25 on krusty-motorsports.com and see what kind of reply you get; this requires some technical knowledge and is not for everyone (you can get out of this at anytime after the initial banner simply by typing quit and hitting enter.) l) Is SMTP over TLS involved? This is a bit esoteric, but as of 8/8/01 the digest.net mail server will attempt to use "TLS" (Transport Layer Security) for outbound mail if the destination mail server offers it. SMTP over TLS is fairly new technology, and a bit buggy. I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 07:59:13 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: testing continued... it appears that I can transmit from wagoneers.com, but receiving doesn't work... except from my work email and cox.net and one other network in KY. weird. It appears that it is a DNS issue, but I'm not convinced that I have everything set up correctly either. The folks at the Digital Forest colo here in Seattle will help me unravel this mystery thanx to the header info y'all sent to me. thanx! john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 10:35:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: wagoneers.com is working! Thank you all for helping me test the email system. It was a DNS issue and is now resolved. Pretty typical problem, seems to happen every time a server is moved or created. :) wagoneers.com has been off line since the end of May. Richard Sexton from mbz.org was very graciously hosting it and attempted to improve network performance by moving it to another location. Things went sideways and as far as I know he's still pretty much off line. :( I just looked at http://mbz.org ... oh man, Richard... bummer: POSTSCTIPT 4-jul-05 I got my computers back. They're broken and empty. Sigh. Richard, don't worry about restoring my data... If I'm missing anything it's just a few list digests, no biggie... ...the picture says it all, http://mbz.org/DSCF0002x.JPG that was where wagoneers.com was living... Richard Sexton thanx so very much for hosting wagoneers.com, I wish you and your 1,500 other domains a speedy and simple recovery. If there is anything sys admin related I can to do help, just drop me an email. Maybe I can help you write some scripts or test with pings or something... The new home of wagoneers.com is at the Digital Forest in South Seattle! http://digitalforest.net/ http://digitalforest.net/about/cams/ (I think I can see my system.... ;) This place is incredible. It is one of the nicest datacenters I've ever been in. What really surprised me was the number of Macs there! I almost applied for a job at this place over a year ago. They had the funniest job ad I've ever seen. "Slave labor wanted". It was great. If I can find it I may put it on my website as a "classic". Chuck G. from the diesel-benz list runs the show there. Thanx Chuck! BTW, The pictures of that 16 cylinder Cummins twin turbo Diesel generator are still in my digital camera... I "wasted" my time last night attempting to get the '92 Cherokee Sport 4.0L injectors to quit leaking fuel... I don't know why the new injector o-rings failed so soon. Luckily I had an old o-ring kit. The dealer gets 11.70 wholesale for one of these o-rings now!!! Everything still smells of gasoline in my area... I loathe gas engines... IF I can't get this XJ to run right I may be looking for an OM617 3.0L TD engine again. :) It's a nice plain, simple white Cherokee, no power, no a/c, simple... clean... solid... tempting... I'm so far behind on so many projects... spent the 4th of July weekend on an airplane or in Amsterdam setting up a Sun server. In a couple weeks I'm off to Tokyo with 2 Sun servers and a Linux server. Meanwhile I need to service my wife's WJ (wax, lube, etc.), wash my '91 300D, sell the '86 Cherokee Chief, finish fixing the '92 Cherokee Sport and selling it, and making sure I get all the parts needed so Curtis can finish Superdawg this summer! (Curtis found a 4 row radiator for chevy conversions that will bolt right in!!!) I'm hoping to retrieve the 6.2L Diesel Jimmy soon and configure a dual tank setup on it to run the Waste Veggie Oil. It'll help me work out the kinks on fuel transfer before SuperDawg is done. So far I've run 10 gallons of wvo through the '92 300D. Still averaging 30mpg per tank too! Just sent back the defective 12V fuel transfer pump to Northern Hydraulics, waiting for the replacement... gotta run, happy to be back on line... john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2133 *************************