From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Feb 1 09:15:23 2006 From: xj-digest xj-digest Wednesday, February 1 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2270 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Re: advice me ! - xj lift Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. xj: 42RE Re: xj: 42RE XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 11:14:21 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: advice me ! - xj lift I was writing an article for ARB, got three sets of shocks. I'd have to look for the article. one set soft, one "normal", one HD. They increased the spring rate later in production and that is what resulted in the stiffer ride over what I had. If you can get in touch with ARB-USA the technicians/sales folks will be able to work with you on specific rates and such. I'll see if I can find my old article, was lookingor the one I did for Randy's Ring and Pinion as well. john On Tue, 31 Jan 2006, ernest breakfield wrote: >-->john wrote: >-->> >-->> I've played with all three shocks, still use them on my SJ. >--> >--> *3* shocks? we're still talking about the XJ, aren't we? i've only seen >-->2 P/Ns listed for OME XJ shocks; N35/N36 and N35C/N36C... what 3rd part >-->were you using? >--> >--> i'm sure much about 'feel' is subjective. i agree that it rides better >-->with some load, but that's what it's for. the XJ *is* a 4-passenger >-->station wagon, after all. ;-) >--> >--> >-->cheers! >-->e >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:11:25 -0800 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. A: Give me a location and I can post up to the ZJ list I'm on (been watching for a core 42RE for free or cheap to build for my J4000) build your truck right the first time! From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. I called and they can have one in 2 days. I haven't check any of the local yards either yet. Allen _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ^V get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 07:05:00 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 06:45:42 -0600 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. Thanks, but I just bought one on ebay last night. Good deal. $75 including the shipping. I am in GA. I plan to build my 42re when it comes time. Is the core for a v8, v6 or the I6? I think that they only used the 42re behind the 3.9 and 4.0l and the 44re behind the 5.2 and the 46 behind the 5.9. I am still researching a feasible turbo diesel swap into the ZJ. Maybe an Isuzu or toyota. Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Jim Blair" Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:11:25 -0800 >A: Give me a location and I can post up to the ZJ list I'm on (been >watching for a core 42RE for free or cheap to build for my J4000) > >build your truck right the first time! > >From: "Allen Zylstra" >Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. > >I called and they can have one in 2 days. I haven't check any of >the >local yards either yet. Allen > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar ^V get it now! >http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. in the WJ's behind the 4.7L they used the 45RFE. Mine had 130,000 on it and doing fine... not as confident in the 42RE though. they are different. I know that many folks that have had ZJ's have had troubles with the AT behind the 4.0L. I believe it was the 42RE, but I could be wrong. I went through this once before and pulled the specs out of both trannies out of the WJ manual, should be in the digests on wagoneers.com john On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Allen Zylstra wrote: >-->Thanks, but I just bought one on ebay last night. Good deal. $75 >-->including the shipping. I am in GA. I plan to build my 42re when it >-->comes time. Is the core for a v8, v6 or the I6? I think that they only >-->used the 42re behind the 3.9 and 4.0l and the 44re behind the 5.2 and >-->the 46 behind the 5.9. I am still researching a feasible turbo diesel >-->swap into the ZJ. Maybe an Isuzu or toyota. Allen >--> >--> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> >--> From: "Jim Blair" >--> Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >--> To: xj-at-digest.net >--> Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. >--> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:11:25 -0800 >--> >A: Give me a location and I can post up to the ZJ list I'm on (been >--> >watching for a core 42RE for free or cheap to build for my J4000) ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 10:49:43 -0600 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: xj: 42RE I have the 42re in mine with the 4.0l. Currently 147K. I don't know if it is original or not. Still works well. Maintenance and not overworking them is key to there longevity. The need band adjustments and the proper fluid. It is a 904 with and electric overdrive. The can be made fairly stout too. The larger the number the more torque it is supposely rated for. That is the info I got. I think the cases are the same. The 42re to me is the ZJ's only downfall otherwise it is great vehicle. I have done some research so that I will be prepared when it fails. I don't treat it nice. Towed 4000lbs for 400 miles. The WJ and WK use the 5sp version I think. I drove a WK for 2 weeks and hated it. Had the 3.7l and 2wd. Didn't work well in the South Alabama sand. The WJ was the last true Jeep other than the TJ. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) >in the WJ's behind the 4.7L they used the 45RFE. Mine >had 130,000 on it and doing fine... not as confident >in the 42RE though. they are different. > >I know that many folks that have had ZJ's have had troubles >with the AT behind the 4.0L. I believe it was the 42RE, but >I could be wrong. > >I went through this once before and pulled the specs out >of both trannies out of the WJ manual, should be in the digests >on wagoneers.com > >john > >On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Allen Zylstra wrote: > > >-->Thanks, but I just bought one on ebay last night. Good deal. $75 > >-->including the shipping. I am in GA. I plan to build my 42re when it > >-->comes time. Is the core for a v8, v6 or the I6? I think that they only > >-->used the 42re behind the 3.9 and 4.0l and the 44re behind the 5.2 and > >-->the 46 behind the 5.9. I am still researching a feasible turbo diesel > >-->swap into the ZJ. Maybe an Isuzu or toyota. Allen > >--> > >--> -------------------------------------------------------------------- > >--> > >--> From: "Jim Blair" > >--> Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net > >--> To: xj-at-digest.net > >--> Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. > >--> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:11:25 -0800 > >--> >A: Give me a location and I can post up to the ZJ list I'm on (been > >--> >watching for a core 42RE for free or cheap to build for my J4000) > > ---- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:14:54 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: 42RE if the 42re and 45rfe share the same case that would be ideal for an upgrade... however, when I ordered the filters/gaskets for both of my wj's the 42re got a gasket and one filter like used in a 727/aw4/th400. The 45rfe got a spin on filter, a long flat filter like the 42re but no pan gasket. I have both, I'll photograph both for comparison when it's not dark or raining... (can you wait until July 5? ;) john On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Allen Zylstra wrote: >-->I have the 42re in mine with the 4.0l. Currently 147K. I don't know if >-->it is original or not. Still works well. Maintenance and not >-->overworking them is key to there longevity. The need band adjustments and >-->the proper fluid. It is a 904 with and electric overdrive. The can be >-->made fairly stout too. The larger the number the more torque it is >-->supposely rated for. That is the info I got. I think the cases are the >-->same. >--> >-->The 42re to me is the ZJ's only downfall otherwise it is great vehicle. >--> >-->I have done some research so that I will be prepared when it fails. I >-->don't treat it nice. Towed 4000lbs for 400 miles. >--> >-->The WJ and WK use the 5sp version I think. I drove a WK for 2 weeks and >-->hated it. Had the 3.7l and 2wd. Didn't work well in the South Alabama >-->sand. The WJ was the last true Jeep other than the TJ. >--> >--> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> >--> From: john >--> Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >--> To: xj-at-digest.net >--> Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever hitch. >--> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) >--> >in the WJ's behind the 4.7L they used the 45RFE. Mine >--> >had 130,000 on it and doing fine... not as confident >--> >in the 42RE though. they are different. >--> > >--> >I know that many folks that have had ZJ's have had troubles >--> >with the AT behind the 4.0L. I believe it was the 42RE, but >--> >I could be wrong. >--> > >--> >I went through this once before and pulled the specs out >--> >of both trannies out of the WJ manual, should be in the digests >--> >on wagoneers.com >--> > >--> >john >--> > >--> >On Wed, 1 Feb 2006, Allen Zylstra wrote: >--> > >--> > >-->Thanks, but I just bought one on ebay last night. Good deal. >--> $75 >--> > >-->including the shipping. I am in GA. I plan to build my 42re >--> when it >--> > >-->comes time. Is the core for a v8, v6 or the I6? I think that >--> they only >--> > >-->used the 42re behind the 3.9 and 4.0l and the 44re behind the >--> 5.2 and >--> > >-->the 46 behind the 5.9. I am still researching a feasible turbo >--> diesel >--> > >-->swap into the ZJ. Maybe an Isuzu or toyota. Allen >--> > >--> >--> > >--> >--> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> > >--> >--> > >--> From: "Jim Blair" >--> > >--> Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >--> > >--> To: xj-at-digest.net >--> > >--> Subject: Re: xj: alittle off topic need a ZJ 2" reciever >--> hitch. >--> > >--> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:11:25 -0800 >--> > >--> >A: Give me a location and I can post up to the ZJ list I'm >--> on (been >--> > >--> >watching for a core 42RE for free or cheap to build for my >--> J4000) >--> > >--> > ---- >--> > >--> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >--> > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >--> > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html >--> ** >--> >------------------------------------------------------------------------- >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2270 *************************