From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Aug 21 15:06:41 2006 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, August 21 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2391 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 13:34:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation topo maps? is that on the cd or is that something you had to add? mine has been great... I love watching the elevations. :) helped me find an on-ramp to I-5 in Seattle, and kept me from circling back in Wyoming... also kept me from going the wrong way in Vermont... or y'all might not have heard from me again. :) john On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: >-->I also have the Magellan Sport Trak Pro. I have the street mapping as well >-->as the Topo Maping. It is a great little GPS. It will not tell you were to >-->go up you can put in the way points and build routes. It also allows >-->searching for street addresses and points of interest. I also have a bike >-->mount for mine for mountain or road biking. That is when the topo maps are >-->very useful. Topos are also a lot of fun in the mountains of Colorado. >--> >-->David >--> >--> >-->On 8/19/06, john wrote: >-->> >-->> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, wmpless wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->Hi, >-->> >-->I think most of the time I know where I am going but nevertheless >-->> considering >-->> >-->buying a GPS. Had a chance to by a Becker Traffic Pro but then the >-->> unit would >-->> >-->be installed firmly in just one car. Looking now at the Garmin nuvi >-->> 350 and >-->> >-->wondering whether anybody has used this unit. TIA for your input. >-->> Wiard >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> Magellan Sport Trak pro was a package deal at Costco (warehouse store), >-->> came with windshield mount, case, 12v adapter, map s/w... have had >-->> it for several years now... use it to check speedometers... >-->> >-->> It's not a whiz bang tell you want to do type... it's portable and >-->> flexible... better ones out for sure... >-->> >-->> If you look through my pictures of this summer's adventure you'll >-->> see it on the dash reporting speed, elevation and location, in addition >-->> it's got a reasonable mapping tool. It has kept me from wandering off >-->> in the wrong direction at least twice... once in Vermont, then once >-->> in Wyoming... (was taking a short cut... ;) >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/23-July-06-WA-ID/P1010022.jpg >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/24-July06/P1010419.jpg >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->David Bierschank >-->Okiebinder >--> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:55:38 -0500 From: "David Bierschank" Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation Yeah, they have a couple of CDs you can buy. One has city street level detail. The other has the topo maps which shows everything a normal Topo shows. It is incredible!!!!! Very interesting when I go to Colorado.... it shows all the old mines. I will see one on the GPS, look up on the hill and see the tailing's. Also shows canyons, all water sources, water falls. Very fun to play with. I would recommend it highly if you already have the GPS. I just wish the screen was a little bigger, but then I would not be able to use it on my bikes or carry as easy in a backpack. It is nearly perfect for what it is designed. David On 8/21/06, john wrote: > > topo maps? is that on the cd or is that something you had to add? > > mine has been great... I love watching the elevations. :) > > helped me find an on-ramp to I-5 in Seattle, and kept me from circling > back in Wyoming... also kept me from going the wrong way in Vermont... > or y'all might not have heard from me again. :) > > john > > > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: > > >-->I also have the Magellan Sport Trak Pro. I have the street mapping as > well > >-->as the Topo Maping. It is a great little GPS. It will not tell you > were to > >-->go up you can put in the way points and build routes. It also allows > >-->searching for street addresses and points of interest. I also have a > bike > >-->mount for mine for mountain or road biking. That is when the topo > maps are > >-->very useful. Topos are also a lot of fun in the mountains of > Colorado. > >--> > >-->David > >--> > >--> > >-->On 8/19/06, john wrote: > >-->> > >-->> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, wmpless wrote: > >-->> > >-->> >-->Hi, > >-->> >-->I think most of the time I know where I am going but > nevertheless > >-->> considering > >-->> >-->buying a GPS. Had a chance to by a Becker Traffic Pro but then > the > >-->> unit would > >-->> >-->be installed firmly in just one car. Looking now at the Garmin > nuvi > >-->> 350 and > >-->> >-->wondering whether anybody has used this unit. TIA for your > input. > >-->> Wiard > >-->> >--> > >-->> > >-->> Magellan Sport Trak pro was a package deal at Costco (warehouse > store), > >-->> came with windshield mount, case, 12v adapter, map s/w... have had > >-->> it for several years now... use it to check speedometers... > >-->> > >-->> It's not a whiz bang tell you want to do type... it's portable and > >-->> flexible... better ones out for sure... > >-->> > >-->> If you look through my pictures of this summer's adventure you'll > >-->> see it on the dash reporting speed, elevation and location, in > addition > >-->> it's got a reasonable mapping tool. It has kept me from wandering > off > >-->> in the wrong direction at least twice... once in Vermont, then once > >-->> in Wyoming... (was taking a short cut... ;) > >-->> > >-->> > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/23-July-06-WA-ID/P1010022.jpg > >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/24-July06/P1010419.jpg > >-->> > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html** > >-->> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-->> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->David Bierschank > >-->Okiebinder > >--> > >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com > >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- David Bierschank Okiebinder okc67mustang-at-gmail.com okiebinder-at-cox.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:41:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation mine came with the US maps... didn't see an option for the topos. john On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: >-->Yeah, they have a couple of CDs you can buy. One has city street level >-->detail. The other has the topo maps which shows everything a normal Topo >-->shows. It is incredible!!!!! Very interesting when I go to Colorado.... it >-->shows all the old mines. I will see one on the GPS, look up on the hill and >-->see the tailing's. Also shows canyons, all water sources, water falls. >-->Very fun to play with. I would recommend it highly if you already have the >-->GPS. I just wish the screen was a little bigger, but then I would not be >-->able to use it on my bikes or carry as easy in a backpack. It is nearly >-->perfect for what it is designed. >--> >-->David >--> >--> >--> >--> >-->On 8/21/06, john wrote: >-->> >-->> topo maps? is that on the cd or is that something you had to add? >-->> >-->> mine has been great... I love watching the elevations. :) >-->> >-->> helped me find an on-ramp to I-5 in Seattle, and kept me from circling >-->> back in Wyoming... also kept me from going the wrong way in Vermont... >-->> or y'all might not have heard from me again. :) >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->I also have the Magellan Sport Trak Pro. I have the street mapping as >-->> well >-->> >-->as the Topo Maping. It is a great little GPS. It will not tell you >-->> were to >-->> >-->go up you can put in the way points and build routes. It also allows >-->> >-->searching for street addresses and points of interest. I also have a >-->> bike >-->> >-->mount for mine for mountain or road biking. That is when the topo >-->> maps are >-->> >-->very useful. Topos are also a lot of fun in the mountains of >-->> Colorado. >-->> >--> >-->> >-->David >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->On 8/19/06, john wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, wmpless wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->Hi, >-->> >-->> >-->I think most of the time I know where I am going but >-->> nevertheless >-->> >-->> considering >-->> >-->> >-->buying a GPS. Had a chance to by a Becker Traffic Pro but then >-->> the >-->> >-->> unit would >-->> >-->> >-->be installed firmly in just one car. Looking now at the Garmin >-->> nuvi >-->> >-->> 350 and >-->> >-->> >-->wondering whether anybody has used this unit. TIA for your >-->> input. >-->> >-->> Wiard >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Magellan Sport Trak pro was a package deal at Costco (warehouse >-->> store), >-->> >-->> came with windshield mount, case, 12v adapter, map s/w... have had >-->> >-->> it for several years now... use it to check speedometers... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> It's not a whiz bang tell you want to do type... it's portable and >-->> >-->> flexible... better ones out for sure... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> If you look through my pictures of this summer's adventure you'll >-->> >-->> see it on the dash reporting speed, elevation and location, in >-->> addition >-->> >-->> it's got a reasonable mapping tool. It has kept me from wandering >-->> off >-->> >-->> in the wrong direction at least twice... once in Vermont, then once >-->> >-->> in Wyoming... (was taking a short cut... ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/23-July-06-WA-ID/P1010022.jpg >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/24-July06/P1010419.jpg >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html** >-->> >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->David Bierschank >-->> >-->Okiebinder >-->> >--> >-->> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com >-->> >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->David Bierschank >-->Okiebinder >--> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:41:11 -0500 From: "David Bierschank" Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation I know Target was selling them about a year ago..... maybe they still carry them? On 8/21/06, john wrote: > > mine came with the US maps... didn't see an option for the topos. > > john > > On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: > > >-->Yeah, they have a couple of CDs you can buy. One has city street > level > >-->detail. The other has the topo maps which shows everything a normal > Topo > >-->shows. It is incredible!!!!! Very interesting when I go to > Colorado.... it > >-->shows all the old mines. I will see one on the GPS, look up on the > hill and > >-->see the tailing's. Also shows canyons, all water sources, water > falls. > >-->Very fun to play with. I would recommend it highly if you already > have the > >-->GPS. I just wish the screen was a little bigger, but then I would not > be > >-->able to use it on my bikes or carry as easy in a backpack. It is > nearly > >-->perfect for what it is designed. > >--> > >-->David > >--> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->On 8/21/06, john wrote: > >-->> > >-->> topo maps? is that on the cd or is that something you had to add? > >-->> > >-->> mine has been great... I love watching the elevations. :) > >-->> > >-->> helped me find an on-ramp to I-5 in Seattle, and kept me from > circling > >-->> back in Wyoming... also kept me from going the wrong way in > Vermont... > >-->> or y'all might not have heard from me again. :) > >-->> > >-->> john > >-->> > >-->> > >-->> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: > >-->> > >-->> >-->I also have the Magellan Sport Trak Pro. I have the street > mapping as > >-->> well > >-->> >-->as the Topo Maping. It is a great little GPS. It will not tell > you > >-->> were to > >-->> >-->go up you can put in the way points and build routes. It also > allows > >-->> >-->searching for street addresses and points of interest. I also > have a > >-->> bike > >-->> >-->mount for mine for mountain or road biking. That is when the > topo > >-->> maps are > >-->> >-->very useful. Topos are also a lot of fun in the mountains of > >-->> Colorado. > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->David > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->On 8/19/06, john wrote: > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, wmpless wrote: > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> >-->Hi, > >-->> >-->> >-->I think most of the time I know where I am going but > >-->> nevertheless > >-->> >-->> considering > >-->> >-->> >-->buying a GPS. Had a chance to by a Becker Traffic Pro but > then > >-->> the > >-->> >-->> unit would > >-->> >-->> >-->be installed firmly in just one car. Looking now at the > Garmin > >-->> nuvi > >-->> >-->> 350 and > >-->> >-->> >-->wondering whether anybody has used this unit. TIA for > your > >-->> input. > >-->> >-->> Wiard > >-->> >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> Magellan Sport Trak pro was a package deal at Costco > (warehouse > >-->> store), > >-->> >-->> came with windshield mount, case, 12v adapter, map > s/w... have had > >-->> >-->> it for several years now... use it to check speedometers... > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> It's not a whiz bang tell you want to do type... it's portable > and > >-->> >-->> flexible... better ones out for sure... > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> If you look through my pictures of this summer's adventure > you'll > >-->> >-->> see it on the dash reporting speed, elevation and location, in > >-->> addition > >-->> >-->> it's got a reasonable mapping tool. It has kept me from > wandering > >-->> off > >-->> >-->> in the wrong direction at least twice... once in Vermont, then > once > >-->> >-->> in Wyoming... (was taking a short cut... ;) > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/23-July-06-WA-ID/P1010022.jpg > >-->> >-->> > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/24-July06/P1010419.jpg > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> john > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> ---- > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >-->> > >-->> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-->> >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they > mold > >-->> >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** > http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html** > >-->> >-->> > >-->> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-->> >-->> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->-- > >-->> >-->David Bierschank > >-->> >-->Okiebinder > >-->> >--> > >-->> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com > >-->> >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net > >-->> >--> > >-->> > >-->> ---- > >-->> > >-->> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html** > >-->> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-->> > >--> > >--> > >--> > >-->-- > >-->David Bierschank > >-->Okiebinder > >--> > >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com > >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net > >--> > > ---- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > - -- David Bierschank Okiebinder okc67mustang-at-gmail.com okiebinder-at-cox.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 15:05:57 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] GPS Navigation should be on line... or maybe someone has an old copy on ebay I can snag... topo map would be cool, but not essential. :) john On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: >-->I know Target was selling them about a year ago..... maybe they still carry >-->them? >--> >--> >--> >-->On 8/21/06, john wrote: >-->> >-->> mine came with the US maps... didn't see an option for the topos. >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->Yeah, they have a couple of CDs you can buy. One has city street >-->> level >-->> >-->detail. The other has the topo maps which shows everything a normal >-->> Topo >-->> >-->shows. It is incredible!!!!! Very interesting when I go to >-->> Colorado.... it >-->> >-->shows all the old mines. I will see one on the GPS, look up on the >-->> hill and >-->> >-->see the tailing's. Also shows canyons, all water sources, water >-->> falls. >-->> >-->Very fun to play with. I would recommend it highly if you already >-->> have the >-->> >-->GPS. I just wish the screen was a little bigger, but then I would not >-->> be >-->> >-->able to use it on my bikes or carry as easy in a backpack. It is >-->> nearly >-->> >-->perfect for what it is designed. >-->> >--> >-->> >-->David >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->On 8/21/06, john wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> topo maps? is that on the cd or is that something you had to add? >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> mine has been great... I love watching the elevations. :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> helped me find an on-ramp to I-5 in Seattle, and kept me from >-->> circling >-->> >-->> back in Wyoming... also kept me from going the wrong way in >-->> Vermont... >-->> >-->> or y'all might not have heard from me again. :) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, David Bierschank wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->I also have the Magellan Sport Trak Pro. I have the street >-->> mapping as >-->> >-->> well >-->> >-->> >-->as the Topo Maping. It is a great little GPS. It will not tell >-->> you >-->> >-->> were to >-->> >-->> >-->go up you can put in the way points and build routes. It also >-->> allows >-->> >-->> >-->searching for street addresses and points of interest. I also >-->> have a >-->> >-->> bike >-->> >-->> >-->mount for mine for mountain or road biking. That is when the >-->> topo >-->> >-->> maps are >-->> >-->> >-->very useful. Topos are also a lot of fun in the mountains of >-->> >-->> Colorado. >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->David >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->On 8/19/06, john wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006, wmpless wrote: >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->Hi, >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->I think most of the time I know where I am going but >-->> >-->> nevertheless >-->> >-->> >-->> considering >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->buying a GPS. Had a chance to by a Becker Traffic Pro but >-->> then >-->> >-->> the >-->> >-->> >-->> unit would >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->be installed firmly in just one car. Looking now at the >-->> Garmin >-->> >-->> nuvi >-->> >-->> >-->> 350 and >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->wondering whether anybody has used this unit. TIA for >-->> your >-->> >-->> input. >-->> >-->> >-->> Wiard >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> Magellan Sport Trak pro was a package deal at Costco >-->> (warehouse >-->> >-->> store), >-->> >-->> >-->> came with windshield mount, case, 12v adapter, map >-->> s/w... have had >-->> >-->> >-->> it for several years now... use it to check speedometers... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> It's not a whiz bang tell you want to do type... it's portable >-->> and >-->> >-->> >-->> flexible... better ones out for sure... >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> If you look through my pictures of this summer's adventure >-->> you'll >-->> >-->> >-->> see it on the dash reporting speed, elevation and location, in >-->> >-->> addition >-->> >-->> >-->> it's got a reasonable mapping tool. It has kept me from >-->> wandering >-->> >-->> off >-->> >-->> >-->> in the wrong direction at least twice... once in Vermont, then >-->> once >-->> >-->> >-->> in Wyoming... (was taking a short cut... ;) >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/23-July-06-WA-ID/P1010022.jpg >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/SouthDakota_2006/24-July06/P1010419.jpg >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> john >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they >-->> mold >-->> >-->> >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** >-->> http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html** >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->> >-->David Bierschank >-->> >-->> >-->Okiebinder >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com >-->> >-->> >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html** >-->> >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >-->> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >--> >-->> >-->-- >-->> >-->David Bierschank >-->> >-->Okiebinder >-->> >--> >-->> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com >-->> >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net >-->> >--> >-->> >-->> ---- >-->> >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** >-->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >-->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** >-->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-->> >--> >--> >--> >-->-- >-->David Bierschank >-->Okiebinder >--> >-->okc67mustang-at-gmail.com >-->okiebinder-at-cox.net >--> ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2391 *************************