From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Sep 1 19:55:18 2006 From: xj-digest xj-digest Saturday, September 2 2006 Volume 01 : Number 2399 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: xj: '65 cj6 Diesel vs. '48 cj-2a xj: administrivia: notes on using this list xj: t90/clutch - update - 48 cj-2a xj: manual transmissions... Re: xj: Re: fsj: XJ testing center XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:09:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: xj: '65 cj6 Diesel vs. '48 cj-2a problem was solved for me when the price was set to $15,000. I'll buy a new TJ before I buy that one. :) john On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Peter J. Ford wrote: > -->like you said, the only downside is the fiberglass body. And it looks so > -->nice I doubt you would want to replace it with a metal one. Personally I > -->would take a diesel CJ 5,6,7,8 over a flat fender, but if it was gas vs. gas > -->it would be hard to decide > --> > -->Peter J. Ford > --> > --> > -->> From: john > -->> Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net > -->> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > -->> Subject: xj: '65 cj6 Diesel vs. '48 cj-2a > -->> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT) > -->> > -->> I have a chance to buy a nice '65 CJ6 with the stock Perkins Diesel... > -->> 4 speed, PTO winch, OD... 11,000 original miles... 1 owner... > -->> the only "downside" is that it was restored with a fiberglass body. > -->> http: //i23.ebayimg.com/05/i/08/09/98/74_1.JPG > -->> http: //i22.ebayimg.com/06/i/08/09/83/ce_1.JPG > -->> http: //i22.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/09/83/14_1.JPG > -->> http: //i21.ebayimg.com/01/i/08/03/80/9f_1.JPG > -->> > -->> This means my '48 CJ-2A will have to be sold, and quickly... anyone > -->> interested? > -->> http: //wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/12Aug06-top/ > -->> http: //wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/August-2006/48-CJ-2A.html > -->> > -->> other than the 20" longer wheelbase and the fact it's not as cool > -->> as a flat fender, is there any reason why I should not do this? > -->> > -->> thanx, > -->> john > -->> > -->> ---- > -->> > -->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > -->> Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > -->> ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** > -->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --> > -->_________________________________________________________________ > -->All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. 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This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. 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[this section is no longer operative, as the demime software now strips html, attachments, rich text format, etc. from postings automatically.] e) are your posts too large? there is a 10,000 character limit on posting sizes; this is done for various reasons. you can always split up large postings to get mail through. f) are you including majordomo commands at the start of your message? administrivia control is turned on; this is a trap for things like "unsubscribe" at the start of a message. try to avoid obvious majordomo commands in the subject and the first 10 lines, or misspell them in obvious ways (e.g. unzubscribe, 1ndex, h3lp, g3t, etc.) g) are you triggering spam traps? some things are red flags; for example, many phrases found commonly in spam are automatically blocked. h) are you using "funky" character sets? 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I am monitoring the logs on the server, and when I see TLS related problems, I manually place the problem destinations on a special exception list; however, this may delay email to the destination host until I make the exception. 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? a) are you using the right address? send to majordomo-at-digest.net, and the command format is unsubscribe list-name my-email-address b) has your email address changed? majordomo has no way of knowing that Fred.Flinstone-at-BarneyCo.com was once fflintstone-at-bedrock.org. you can check this with the which command (see 1.b) above for details) 3. How do I post to the list? You may use either one of two addresses: for example, the bmw-digest may be reached using either bmw-at-digest.net or bmw-digest-at-digest.net If you are using the correct addresses and your posts don't show up, check out the stuff in 1. above. 4. Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 00:28:39 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: t90/clutch - update - 48 cj-2a a mechanic friend made it over tonight... we tore down the t-90... found all kinds of problems... (we had the trans out and on the bench in about an hour...) the "new" t90 had a cracked case the "old" t90 had been rebuild incorrectly... the clutch was about ready to disintegrate the "new" t90 had not been attached to the xfr case properly... longer story, but I'm tired, pictures at: http://wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/31-Aug-2006-Clutch-T90/ parts manual pix: (vintage parts manual) http://wagoneers.com/Willys/TECH/CJ-2A/T90-XFR-Brakes/ ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 10:04:30 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: manual transmissions... looking at this picture: http://www.wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/31-Aug-2006-Clutch-T90/P1040054.jpg I'm hoping that my wife HAD intended this bed sheet to be a rag... :) worked on this t-90 until about midnight... my mechanic friend really knows what he's doing... he was going through the parts and telling me which gear it was, telling me how it was supposed fit together... then I went into my office, pulled out the parts manual I had just purchased on ebay (1949 copyright), opened up to the T-90 pages and he was right on the money. I asked him, have you ever seen one of these before... nope. I'm impressed. It's awesome to work with a real mechanic. The two of us had that trans out in no time at all... a refreshing experience after having my other friend attempt to help. http://www.wagoneers.com/Willys/48-CJ-2A/31-Aug-2006-Clutch-T90/ALL.html Hopefully this evening we'll have the clutch, throwout arm and bearing and reassemble this thing. I can't see any reason why we won't be able to put it back together. Oh, the "new" t90 I picked up had been a side-loader, the case was cracked on the side but plugged up... so we're using my "old" case with the best of both parts. LW, I'll be able to drive my flatfender this weekend!!! :) After looking at what it takes, manual transmissions no longer frighten me. john ---- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html ** - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:42:19 -0500 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: xj: Re: fsj: XJ testing center I know John (among others) was kind of upset at seeing this poor XJ trashed. But it wasn't /quite/ as dumb as it seems. I found the video also when bouncing around the Google Video site. In fact the vid I watched was much longer than the loop Jim found. Here is the caption: This *jeep* had failed its MOT and it was not economically viable to repair (completely rusted underneath) also none of us wanted the hasle of breaking it . Rather than just take it straight to the breakers we decided to have some fun with it first and see what it could do if realy pushed , all the driving you see in the video was on private land , after the destruction , the *jeep* and crap that fell off were low loaded to a local scrap metal merchant and it weighed in at just under 3 tons , for which we received #110 . Also we made sure that the kids you see in the vid were stood out the way on what ever run we were going to try . It would have kept on going had the transmission pipe not split , a super damm tough XJ Allen Zylstra wrote: > Memories of nissan and a ford aerostar come to mind. Planted my nissan > kingcab nose first on some ATV trails in college. The $50 aerostar > providing about 3 days of entertainment on those same trails. Look like > a nice XJ though. > > Allen > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: john > Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net > To: Jim Blair > CC: xj-list , full size jeep list > Subject: xj: Re: fsj: XJ testing center > Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 11:00:13 -0700 (PDT) > >what a bunch of idiots... looked like a perfectly good xj... > >these morons obviously have more money then sense. > > > >On Thu, 24 Aug 2006, Jim Blair wrote: > > > -->Take your Jeep to these guys and they will test it for free! > > > > -->http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7270258632860038644&amp > > > > ---- > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ** http://JohnMeister.com **** http://wagoneers.com ** > > Snohomish, Washington USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > ** http://freegift.net *** http://greatcom.org/laws/languages.html > ** > >------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > - -- Email was full when packed. 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