From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Feb 11 09:18:38 2007 From: xj-digest xj-digest Sunday, February 11 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2512 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. Re: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. Re: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. xj: Re: Question - '96 Jeep Heat Re: xj: Re: Question - '96 Jeep Heat Re: xj: Renix vs HO AW4 Popcorn may be needed. XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:18:34 -0800 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. seems the key word there is "might"; with about 3", i get rub at full flex even with just 30s,... cheers! e john wrote: > 3" should be more than enough without trimming... my '87 did fine > that way. > > john > > On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Peter J. Ford wrote: > > >> -->For 31's you are going to need at least 3.5 inches. With the swaybars >> -->disconnected you might need to trim the front fenders. >> --> >> -->Peter J. Ford >> --> >> --> >> -->>From: "Bob Carlson" >> -->>Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >> -->>To: xj-at-digest.net >> -->>Subject: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. >> -->>Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:07:45 -0600 >> -->> >> -->>I am beginning to look at lifting my 94 Cherokee mildly, possibly with a >> -->>2-3" lift as I am looking to run ~31" tires. The XJ will still be my daily >> -->>driver, so I am not really concerned with going bigger (that's what the 86' >> -->>FSJ project is for!) and am wondering if any of you would share with me >> -->>your >> -->>past/present dealings' with the lift(s) you have/had put on your Jeep. I'm >> -->>wanting to get a lift with: >> -->>- post purchase support from the manufacturer/dealer (for those times when, >> -->>for one reason or another a part is missing or damaged during transit), >> -->>- a complete kit would be nice, but not necessary; I do want to try a limit >> -->>the number of purchasing points if at all possible (you know, purchasing >> -->>shocks from vendor A, bushings from vendor B, springs from C, etc., etc.) >> -->>- some sort of detailed instructional sheet/book is always beneficial (not >> -->>that I couldn't figure it out on my own, but it would help to decrease the >> -->>wrenching time) >> -->>- I definitely want a kit/setup that comes with full rear springs, no >> -->>add-a-leaf's >> -->> >> -->> >> -->>thanks, >> -->> - Bob >> --> >> -->_________________________________________________________________ >> -->Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. >> -->http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG >> --> >> > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 14:25:53 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. good point, there is a bit of variability with these things... john On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, ernest breakfield wrote: > -->seems the key word there is "might"; with about 3", i get rub at full flex > -->even with just 30s,... > --> > --> > -->cheers! > -->e > --> > --> > -->john wrote: > -->> 3" should be more than enough without trimming... my '87 did fine > -->> that way. > -->> > -->> john > -->> > -->> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Peter J. Ford wrote: > -->> > -->> > -->> > -->For 31's you are going to need at least 3.5 inches. With the > -->> > -->swaybars > -->> > -->disconnected you might need to trim the front fenders. > -->> > --> > -->> > -->Peter J. Ford > -->> > --> > -->> > --> > -->> > --> >From: "Bob Carlson" > -->> > --> >Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net > -->> > --> >To: xj-at-digest.net > -->> > --> >Subject: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. > -->> > --> >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:07:45 -0600 > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> >I am beginning to look at lifting my 94 Cherokee mildly, possibly > -->> > --> >with a > -->> > --> >2-3" lift as I am looking to run ~31" tires. The XJ will still be > -->> > --> >my daily > -->> > --> >driver, so I am not really concerned with going bigger (that's what > -->> > --> >the 86' > -->> > --> >FSJ project is for!) and am wondering if any of you would share > -->> > --> >with me > -->> > --> >your > -->> > --> >past/present dealings' with the lift(s) you have/had put on your > -->> > --> >Jeep. I'm > -->> > --> >wanting to get a lift with: > -->> > --> >- post purchase support from the manufacturer/dealer (for those > -->> > --> >times when, > -->> > --> >for one reason or another a part is missing or damaged during > -->> > --> >transit), > -->> > --> >- a complete kit would be nice, but not necessary; I do want to try > -->> > --> >a limit > -->> > --> >the number of purchasing points if at all possible (you know, > -->> > --> >purchasing > -->> > --> >shocks from vendor A, bushings from vendor B, springs from C, etc., > -->> > --> >etc.) > -->> > --> >- some sort of detailed instructional sheet/book is always > -->> > --> >beneficial (not > -->> > --> >that I couldn't figure it out on my own, but it would help to > -->> > --> >decrease the > -->> > --> >wrenching time) > -->> > --> >- I definitely want a kit/setup that comes with full rear springs, > -->> > --> >no > -->> > --> >add-a-leaf's > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> > > -->> > --> >thanks, > -->> > --> > - Bob > -->> > --> > -->> > -->_________________________________________________________________ > -->> > -->Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. > -->> > -->http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG > -->> > --> > -->> > > -->> > -->> ----- > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -->> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > -->> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --> > --> ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 14:24:46 -0800 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. seemingly, as with all things J**p,... ;-) cheers! e john wrote: > good point, there is a bit of variability with these things... > > > john > > On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, ernest breakfield wrote: > > >> -->seems the key word there is "might"; with about 3", i get rub at full flex >> -->even with just 30s,... >> --> >> --> >> -->cheers! >> -->e >> --> >> --> >> -->john wrote: >> -->> 3" should be more than enough without trimming... my '87 did fine >> -->> that way. >> -->> >> -->> john >> -->> >> -->> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, Peter J. Ford wrote: >> -->> >> -->> >> -->> > -->For 31's you are going to need at least 3.5 inches. With the >> -->> > -->swaybars >> -->> > -->disconnected you might need to trim the front fenders. >> -->> > --> >> -->> > -->Peter J. Ford >> -->> > --> >> -->> > --> >> -->> > --> >From: "Bob Carlson" >> -->> > --> >Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >> -->> > --> >To: xj-at-digest.net >> -->> > --> >Subject: xj: lifting thoughts, kits, etc. >> -->> > --> >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:07:45 -0600 >> -->> > --> > >> -->> > --> >I am beginning to look at lifting my 94 Cherokee mildly, possibly >> -->> > --> >with a >> -->> > --> >2-3" lift as I am looking to run ~31" tires. The XJ will still be >> -->> > --> >my daily >> -->> > --> >driver, so I am not really concerned with going bigger (that's what >> -->> > --> >the 86' >> -->> > --> >FSJ project is for!) and am wondering if any of you would share >> -->> > --> >with me >> -->> > --> >your >> -->> > --> >past/present dealings' with the lift(s) you have/had put on your >> -->> > --> >Jeep. I'm >> -->> > --> >wanting to get a lift with: >> -->> > --> >- post purchase support from the manufacturer/dealer (for those >> -->> > --> >times when, >> -->> > --> >for one reason or another a part is missing or damaged during >> -->> > --> >transit), >> -->> > --> >- a complete kit would be nice, but not necessary; I do want to try >> -->> > --> >a limit >> -->> > --> >the number of purchasing points if at all possible (you know, >> -->> > --> >purchasing >> -->> > --> >shocks from vendor A, bushings from vendor B, springs from C, etc., >> -->> > --> >etc.) >> -->> > --> >- some sort of detailed instructional sheet/book is always >> -->> > --> >beneficial (not >> -->> > --> >that I couldn't figure it out on my own, but it would help to >> -->> > --> >decrease the >> -->> > --> >wrenching time) >> -->> > --> >- I definitely want a kit/setup that comes with full rear springs, >> -->> > --> >no >> -->> > --> >add-a-leaf's >> -->> > --> > >> -->> > --> > >> -->> > --> >thanks, >> -->> > --> > - Bob >> -->> > --> >> -->> > -->_________________________________________________________________ >> -->> > -->Turn searches into helpful donations. Make your search count. >> -->> > -->http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_donation&FORM=WLMTAG >> -->> > --> >> -->> > >> -->> >> -->> ----- >> -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -->> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> -->> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** >> -->> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --> >> --> >> > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:06:23 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: Question - '96 Jeep Heat On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, John Pettit wrote: >-->John, >-->Hey - I hope you're doing well. I was wondering if you might be able to point me in the right direction concerning some heater problems that I'm having with my '96 Jeep Cherokee. >--> >-->Basically, the heat doesn't get hot ;-) It gets kind of warm - but barely. >-->What would be the first thing that you would look for? could be that the heater core is clogged, maybe flushing the system would help... or there is air in the system and it's got a bubble that's keeping coolant from the heater core... or there is a valve that is shut in your heat/ac unit. how's the coolant/radiator look? water pump ok? john >--> >-->Thanks, >-->John ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 21:38:57 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Kummel Subject: Re: xj: Re: Question - '96 Jeep Heat My 1990 is doing the same thing...while I can probably associate some of that to the single digit temperatures (it was warm today, it made it into the 20s) But, I think that my problem is more likely a stuck thermostat...unfortunatly, it's so darn cold that I can't bring myself to replace the thremostat this really cold weekend...So, I guess another several weeks driving with my ear muffs and gloves on. Ed web/gadget guru john wrote: On Fri, 9 Feb 2007, John Pettit wrote: >-->John, >-->Hey - I hope you're doing well. I was wondering if you might be able to point me in the right direction concerning some heater problems that I'm having with my '96 Jeep Cherokee. >--> >-->Basically, the heat doesn't get hot ;-) It gets kind of warm - but barely. >-->What would be the first thing that you would look for? could be that the heater core is clogged, maybe flushing the system would help... or there is air in the system and it's got a bubble that's keeping coolant from the heater core... or there is a valve that is shut in your heat/ac unit. how's the coolant/radiator look? water pump ok? john >--> >-->Thanks, >-->John - ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Don't You Love Mistyping URL's.... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ....when they turn out to be pretty neat. In this case I was trying for Engadget.com, and instead wound up at www.edgadget.com which appears to have lots of Newton software. - ProfessorF from the UK pcpro/macuser forum - --------------------------------- Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 11:13:30 -0600 From: "Allen Zylstra" Subject: Re: xj: Renix vs HO AW4 Popcorn may be needed. Project idea may have changed to possible of acquiring a cheap nice 94 2wd Xj and using the parts 92 to convert it over to a 4x4. 94 has slipping trans. Allen -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Peter J. Ford" Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: xj: Renix vs HO AW4 Popcorn may be needed. Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2007 10:34:28 -0800 >I don't know about the HO but for the Renix the AW4 had its own >computer. I don't think this would be that much of a problem, just >might require some different wiring. There is also a wire from the >TPS for the transmission that I assume goes to the transmission >computer. I think this changed with the HO too (if the engine ecu >controls the transmission, the transmission wouldn't need it's own >signal from the TPS). > >I have both, just too busy to check. I should have time over the >weekend... if I remember. > >Jim is correct about the output splines... anyone want a well used >BA 10/5? > >Peter J. Ford > > >>From: "Jim Blair" >>Reply-To: xj-at-digest.net >>To: xj-at-digest.net >>Subject: Re: xj: Renix vs HO AW4 Popcorn may be needed. >>Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:28:26 -0800 >> >>A: They changed the spline count on the output shaft in '91 to 23 >>spline. The std trans started a bit sooner with the swap to AX-15 >>starting early '90. I have been searching the net as well as parts >>rigs. There are NO 21 spline AX-15s to be found anywhere. (in spite >>of some claims to the contrary. All the ones I have seen were >>really BA 10/5s) and no 23 spline BA 10/5s (ditto in reverse. AX15s >>swapped in by dealer or?) The AW4 was 21 spline right up till >>08/90. (I've checked several 07/90s and they were all 21. all >>08/90s so far have been 23 spline) As long as the tcase you have >>matches, it doesn't matter till after '96 (OBDII AW4s got another >>sensor) >> >> >>From: "Allen Zylstra" >>Subject: xj: Renix vs HO AW4 Popcorn may be needed. >> >>Is there a difference between the Aw4 used with a Renix engine and >>the >>aw4 with the HO engine. I look on ebay and they are listed as >>87-90 and >>91-95. I am looking a possible combo of 88 XJ with 92 trans. Just >>found >>a clean looking 88. The 92 been wheeled hard XJ is still available >>and >>has a good engine/trans. Plus that one has a lift on it too. I >>can help >>subsidized my project, by selling off the leftovers of the 92. >>Allen >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Search for grocery stores. Find gratitude. Turn a simple search >>into something more. >>http://click4thecause.live.com/search/charity/default.aspx?source=hmemtagline_gratitude&FORM=WLMTAG > >_________________________________________________________________ >FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo ^V buy and sell with >people you know >http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwex0010000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://expo.live.com?s_cid=Hotmail_tagline_12/06 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Don^Rt miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft Office Live ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2512 *************************