From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Sep 22 23:23:12 2007 From: xj-digest xj-digest Sunday, September 23 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2654 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: xj mileage Re: xj: pictures... xj: 96 computer? Re: xj: 96 computer? Re: xj: 96 computer? xj: Old Blue II update XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:40:26 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: xj: xj mileage For one, the HO injectors are bigger (stick them into a Renix rig and it goes like hell, but won't pass as many gas stations! Just ask John) A lot of the Strokers list guys trick their sensors with adjustable stuff (MAP sensor esp) and get better economy or switch the other way for more power. Jim Blair, Kirkland, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10, '73 J4000 (RIP)
From: Kevin Subject: Re: xj: xj mileage I wonder if there's anything behind me just casually noticing that renix injected cherokees seem to get better mileage than the HO ones. Anyone else notice that? My brother's y2k is probably going to get a set of 30x9.5s on it next time he's back in town. Will knock down the revs on the freeway a bit, and aren't too wide. They seemed about right on the 89, and that was before it accidentally got a 2" lift. I really need to get that thing back on the road. _________________________________________________________________ Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! http://club.live.com/seekadoo.aspx?icid=seek_hotmailtextlink1 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:40:53 -0700 From: "Jim Blair" Subject: Re: xj: pictures... I get about 20 mpg in my '87 Comanche with 4.0L 5 speed with 3.73 gears and 33" tires which gives me the equivalent to my OEM gears (3.07) and stock tires so my speedometer is dead on. Fully loaded with the canopy on it drops to -at-15 mpg. Got a lot of that happening lately with moving. Jim Blair, Kirkland, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10, '73 J4000 (RIP)
From: Kevin Subject: Re: xj: pictures... On Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 10:12:28PM -0700, john wrote: >mlc, giving serious thought to a '99 xj limited... I'm getting >over it's color... it needs a few things but has the options I >want... looked up the epa rating, 16/22. 22 is good... > >anyone have an XJ with a 4.0 automatic (1999 pre-individual coils) that >gets in the 20's on the freeway? > >if I put larger tires does that ruin the economy? My 93 (4.0HO/AW4/231) gets about 17 mpg (corrected) locked front posi rear with 33x10.5 muds. I haven't heard of too many AW4 XJs breaking the 20 mpg barrier, lifted or not. Let me know if you get 22 out of that thing, my brother's y2k would try as hard as it could to not break 20. Driving a 617.912 could have given him a few bad habits though :) My 89 which seems to be an anomoly would pass 25 mpg fairly easily before it lunched its engine. five speed 4.0, and nobody believes me, but the driveshaft doesn't turn all the way around the third time to get the tire to spin once, and it has factory gearing in it. To your later question, from my limited experience, most AW4 XJs came with 3.55s. 3.55s with the stock 29s will have you spinning too hard on the freeway. Upgrading to 30s or 31s might lower the ratio enough to more than make up for the increased mass and contact patch. Can't say the same for a friend's 94 four-walker, that he upgraded to 31s from the stock 28s. Turns out a tired toyota 22RE has difficulty dealing with the extra rolling mass and resistance. Not to mention a 94 four walker is significantly heavier than a similarly equipped XJ, or even hilux pickup for that matter. Soccer mom effect, anyone? _________________________________________________________________ It^Rs the Windows Live^Y Hotmail. you love ^W on your phone! http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/mobilehotmail/default.mspx?WT.mc_ID=MobileHMTagline2 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:24:57 -0500 From: "David Smith" Subject: xj: 96 computer? A friend of mine has a 96 ZJ. He's been told the computer is bad, but he also mentioned that if he wiggles the wire harness under the dash the engine sputters. If anyone has a spare harness/computer or knows where to get one, please let me know. thanks. dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:30:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: 96 computer? I may have one... not sure if it's from the '92 or a '96... how can I tell? john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, David Smith wrote: # A friend of mine has a 96 ZJ. He's been told the computer is bad, but # he also mentioned that if he wiggles the wire harness under the dash # the engine sputters. # # If anyone has a spare harness/computer or knows where to get one, # please let me know. thanks. # dave # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:07:03 -0500 From: "David Smith" Subject: Re: xj: 96 computer? welp thats something i guess we need to figure out :D On 9/22/07, john wrote: > I may have one... not sure if it's from the '92 or a '96... > how can I tell? > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007, David Smith wrote: > > # A friend of mine has a 96 ZJ. He's been told the computer is bad, but > # he also mentioned that if he wiggles the wire harness under the dash > # the engine sputters. > # > # If anyone has a spare harness/computer or knows where to get one, > # please let me know. thanks. > # dave > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:22:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Old Blue II update breaking news from the Snohomish Monster Carport... with the help of Jim Blair we just finished a compression check on one healthy 360 V8... started removing the cracked exhaust manifold... called it a night... jim has to work, and I have to teach a class tomorrow morning. :) tomorrow if I have time and it's not raining I may drop the exhaust system, get the new banjo bolts/plugs, a gasket and put the exhaust together... whoever the clod was that worked on this thing before must have been a chevy mechanic or a rank amateur... the plugs were gapped from .045 to .060 and in finger tight. :) didn't start it up... the air injection system if off and the holes unplugged... might not be able to put it back together until next week, no rush... making EXCELLENT progress... oh yeah, jim had an encounter with a green car on the way over... seems that the guy ahead of him was driving without his lights on in the dark, then suddenly swerved onto the shoulder... jim swerved left just in time to hit the deer that came flying over the green car's front end... of course with jim's 33" tired mj he went OVER the deer... broke his headlight ring, but otherwise it came out just fine... next step for Old Blue II is the manifold, check the rest of the exhaust, button it back up and then start on the interior... have a new steering wheel, need to get carpeting... figure out the electrical problem with the dome light and find it a new home... :) oh yeah, need to install the "new" tires too... thanx again jim! john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2654 *************************