From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Sep 25 16:06:11 2007 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, September 25 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2656 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: RE: mix matched bolts, and news article Re: xj: RE: mix matched bolts, and news article xj: free j-truck - Seattle - this weekend? xj: RE: [db] free j-truck - Seattle - this weekend? xj: resized j10 pix xj: Re: resized j10 pix xj: and the proud owner of the J10 is... Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:35:43 -0700 From: "Tesar Landon-r16884" Subject: xj: RE: mix matched bolts, and news article It's a very strange thread. Believe I added JB Weld to make sure. Too bad we don't understand how to better support the AIR system - parts/diagrams, etc. - - Landon - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:49 PM Subject: xj: mix matched bolts, and news article why is it with american iron that there is a mix of metric and SAE? :) getting the exhaust manifold off of my jeep has been an interesting experience... did find the CORRECT bolt to plug up the air injection stuff... 9/16" 18 threads per inch... only thing Tacoma Screw had was 1" bolts... I think they'll stay seated in the holes without washers... thoughts? also, on that topic about materials, Flight International has an interesting article (9/24/2007) that clearly showed the ex-engineer is in a minority of old school engineers and that the vast majority of engineers they talked with concurred that there was sufficient data and that there clearly isn't a problem. ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: RE: mix matched bolts, and news article yeah, it's not a common part... 18 threads per inch, 9/16" bolt, about 1/2" in length, could only get 1" bolts... I may use JB weld to keep them in place, but they're not likely to work loose. Jim Blair found some much more suitable inserts, but they were slightly larger... thread count was very, very similar... matched... but they were just slightly larger... must have been metric. Jim, rather than a refund, let's just exchange those inserts for something of comparable value... your recommendation off the shelves. ;) no rush... really appreciate your thoughtfulness on gathering them up for me! turns out my wife's computer didn't die... the lcd monitor did... so now I have to go back down to fry's to return the stuff I bought to setup a work around system. john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, Tesar Landon-r16884 wrote: # It's a very strange thread. Believe I added JB Weld to make sure. Too # bad we don't understand how to better support the AIR system - # parts/diagrams, etc. # # - Landon # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 7:49 PM # Subject: xj: mix matched bolts, and news article # # why is it with american iron that there is # a mix of metric and SAE? :) # # getting the exhaust manifold off of my jeep has # been an interesting experience... # # did find the CORRECT bolt to plug up the air injection # stuff... 9/16" 18 threads per inch... only thing # Tacoma Screw had was 1" bolts... I think they'll stay # seated in the holes without washers... thoughts? # # also, on that topic about materials, Flight International # has an interesting article (9/24/2007) that clearly showed the # ex-engineer is in a minority of old school engineers and # that the vast majority of engineers they talked with concurred # that there was sufficient data and that there clearly isn't a problem. # # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: free j-truck - Seattle - this weekend? 360 4v, 4speed... dana 60s http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/J10/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/J10/All.html http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/J10/ individual pictures http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ (zip file - 56m) Jim, it's not green... and that is surface rust, but notice it doesn't have rust through... (Jim Blair has second right of refusal... I had first... passing... this is a very tempting driveline... but I don't have funds for paint (although rattle can camo would work) and very little time right now... still in Grad skool until feburary. ;) It's in Seattle, U-district. The guy wants to see his project live on... doesn't want it scrapped... the axles alone are worth a fortune. It's a 1977... was running, but has been sitting for 3 or 4 or 5 years in this garage. I believe it can be made operational with just a few hours worth of effort... The guy needs it moved by the end of the month... If you pay for towing and a tarp, and some other renumerations, I might be persuaded to hide this in a field for a few days... :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:25:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: RE: [db] free j-truck - Seattle - this weekend? thanx derick... will pass this on to the jeep lists... the truck is in the U-district, right off of 50th, very close to the freeway... he could probably meet up with you in the evening... the guy offered to reimburse for a tow dolly.... and yes, the truck should be moveable with a tow dolly... it'll weigh around 4500lbs as is... (the dana 60s make it a little heavier. ;) this is, or should be, a running vehicle, a $200 maaco paint job will make it presentable... seriously this could be make fully functional in a weekend... My '91 GW should be ready in a week or two now that curtis has resurfaced and is active on it... it's almost done... as is my '89 GW, need to order carpet for it, that cleans me out of the cash needed to improve this J10. I could use plastic to make the J10 presentable, but I've got grad school classes every other weekend until Feb 2008. I have to focus... it's hard... :) plus, every sunday I'm teaching a class (see the soup can on my webserver)... Haven't heard from Jim Blair yet, but he could really use this truck and since he was so kind to help me work on my '89 GW this weekend he gets the first shot at this thing... Might even help him rattle can it in my driveway so his wife will not hurt him... Jim, I have some green paint around... oh, wait, not green, lime? olive? mint? ok, ok, maybe blue, or white, or black, or gray... anything but green, for you buddy. ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Derick Amburgey wrote: # # If it can wait till the 24th of Oct I may be able to help. # # If it can be towed with a dolly I can help with moving it for gas money. # I can't get crazy with distance but if the new owner is in the Puget sound area I could help. # I could stage the rig at my place but I want the title until you pick it up. # Memories of a 300td bring back much pain title wise and I will not do that again... # # John I would be willing to loan you the dolly also if you want to stash it at your place. # I work weekends so I am out as far as helping then. # # # Derick # # # # > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:40:42 -0700 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com # > Subject: [db] free j-truck - Seattle - this weekend? # > # > 360 4v, 4speed... dana 60s # > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/J10/ALL.html # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/J10/All.html # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/J10/ individual pictures # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ (zip file - 56m) # > # > Jim, it's not green... and that is surface rust, but # > notice it doesn't have rust through... # > # > (Jim Blair has second right of refusal... # > I had first... passing... this is a very tempting driveline... but # > I don't have funds for paint (although rattle can camo would work) and # > very little time right now... still in Grad skool until feburary. ;) # > # > It's in Seattle, U-district. The guy wants to see his project live # > on... doesn't want it scrapped... the axles alone are worth a fortune. # > It's a 1977... was running, but has been sitting for 3 or 4 or 5 years # > in this garage. # > # > I believe it can be made operational with just a few hours worth of effort... # > # > The guy needs it moved by the end of the month... If you pay for # > towing and a tarp, and some other renumerations, I might be persuaded # > to hide this in a field for a few days... :) # > # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # _________________________________________________________________ # Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Cafi. # http://www.cafemessenger.com?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_SeptWLtagline ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:55:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: resized j10 pix ok, here's the chance to be part of the FSJ community... :) little or no initial cost... just think you could tow your Diesel Benz, XJ or FSJ (mlc) with ease... some assembly (and paint) required... resized links: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/All-900.html ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:43:22 -0400 From: "Don Hansen" Subject: xj: Re: resized j10 pix My 1987 J20 is still plowing my driveways. Fuel injected by Holley Projection. Starts in 1/2 a second after sitting for 5 months! Then, of course, there's the rust.... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; "diesel-benz list" ; "Blair, Jim -- Jim Blair" ; "Jim Blair" Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: xj: resized j10 pix > ok, here's the chance to be part of the FSJ community... :) > little or no initial cost... just think you could tow > your Diesel Benz, XJ or FSJ (mlc) with ease... > > some assembly (and paint) required... > > resized links: > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ALL.html > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/All-900.html > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:08:41 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: and the proud owner of the J10 is... Jim Blair got in touch, he wants it... :) Putting him in touch with the owner... thanx Jim... See, if you help John do a compression test on his Grand Wagoneer he'll give you a Jeep. ;) He's getting it for our mutual friend Brian, who has been afflicted, infected and otherwise affected by the Full Size Jeep bug... he either caught it from me, or from Jim... not sure... ;) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; # "diesel-benz list" ; "Blair, Jim -- Jim Blair" # ; "Jim Blair" # Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:55 PM # Subject: xj: resized j10 pix # # > ok, here's the chance to be part of the FSJ community... :) # > little or no initial cost... just think you could tow # > your Diesel Benz, XJ or FSJ (mlc) with ease... # > # > some assembly (and paint) required... # > # > resized links: # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ALL.html # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/All-900.html # > # > ----- # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:31:43 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix where are you at that you have to plow? I thought you were down south... (no insult intended). :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Don Hansen wrote: # My 1987 J20 is still plowing my driveways. Fuel injected by Holley # Projection. Starts in 1/2 a second after sitting for 5 months! # Then, of course, there's the rust.... # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; # "diesel-benz list" ; "Blair, Jim -- Jim Blair" # ; "Jim Blair" # Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:55 PM # Subject: xj: resized j10 pix # # # > ok, here's the chance to be part of the FSJ community... :) # > little or no initial cost... just think you could tow # > your Diesel Benz, XJ or FSJ (mlc) with ease... # > # > some assembly (and paint) required... # > # > resized links: # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ALL.html # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/All-900.html # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:49:39 -0400 From: "Don Hansen" Subject: Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix Braintree, Massachusetts... - ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix > where are you at that you have to plow? I thought you > were down south... (no insult intended). :) > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Don Hansen wrote: > > # My 1987 J20 is still plowing my driveways. Fuel injected by Holley > # Projection. Starts in 1/2 a second after sitting for 5 months! > # Then, of course, there's the rust.... > # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" > # To: "full size jeep list" ; "xj-list" ; > # "diesel-benz list" ; "Blair, Jim -- Jim Blair" > # ; "Jim Blair" > # Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 2:55 PM > # Subject: xj: resized j10 pix > # > # > # > ok, here's the chance to be part of the FSJ community... :) > # > little or no initial cost... just think you could tow > # > your Diesel Benz, XJ or FSJ (mlc) with ease... > # > > # > some assembly (and paint) required... > # > > # > resized links: > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/ALL.html > # > http://wagoneers.com/tmp/j10/All-900.html > # > > # > ----- > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:05:38 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix ok, I can understand the snow plow given that info. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Don Hansen wrote: # Braintree, Massachusetts... # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" # To: # Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 4:31 PM # Subject: Re: xj: Re: resized j10 pix # # # > where are you at that you have to plow? I thought you # > were down south... (no insult intended). :) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Don Hansen wrote: # > # > # My 1987 J20 is still plowing my driveways. Fuel injected by Holley # > # Projection. Starts in 1/2 a second after sitting for 5 months! # > # Then, of course, there's the rust.... ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2656 *************************