From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Oct 27 13:13:22 2007 From: xj-digest xj-digest Saturday, October 27 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2675 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: best chase scene ever Re: [db] RE: xj: best chase scene ever Re: xj: best chase scene ever Re: xj: best chase scene ever Re: [db] RE: xj: best chase scene ever Re: xj: best chase scene ever Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever xj: RE: fsj: best chase scene ever Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever RE: xj: TORQUE FOR HEAD BOLTS ON 4.0 Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever RE: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:23:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: best chase scene ever man, that was good... I'd forgotten about the falling pinto... I grew up in the Chicago area... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Ed Kummel wrote: # You know...after I sent that...I remembered what is perhaps the most awesome-est over-the-top car chase of all time... # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkZRxM3ukpg # Jake and Ellwood blues avoiding the cops...they were on a mission from god, after all! The carnage and destruction is unprecended...and the Pinto falling from the sky...pure genius! # Ed # web/gadget guru # # Ed Kummel wrote: # I love how "back then" these old farts in suits and ties and horn-rim glasses looking so conservative are driving around in these awesome muscle cars... # That video is funny though...all that driving on skinny bias-ply tires and non-posi rears and stock suspensions! # I loved seeing all the other classic muscle on the roads during the chase scene...Corvairs, Firebirds, Corvettes...GTOs (well..they were probably just Pontiac Tempests...but still cool!) On that long run, I would have loved if the camera would have gotten a picture of the speedometer! # One of my favorite car chases is the final chase scene in Cage's Gone in 60 seconds with Elenore! # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUNUPOwGZBE # # Ed # web/gadget guru # # # john wrote: # found this while doing some research for a grad school project... # really... :) # # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE # # ----- # ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # "The rule in Silicon Valley is that if Apple leaves the table smiling, the other guy got screwed," # - Rob Enderle, independant analyst on the Apple/Cisco iPhone lawsuit # Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around # http://mail.yahoo.com # # # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # "The rule in Silicon Valley is that if Apple leaves the table smiling, the other guy got screwed," # - Rob Enderle, independant analyst on the Apple/Cisco iPhone lawsuit # Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around # http://mail.yahoo.com # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:53:55 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: [db] RE: xj: best chase scene ever which one is that? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jerome Kaidor wrote: # john wrote: # > # > yes, also good... # *** Wow, that old French one is mind-blowing. Apparently the guy # actually did it - no fake. They arrested him after the film came # out. And it seems he did it in a Mercedes, and dubbed in the Ferrari # sounds afterwards. So it's on topic:). Looks like he hit the streets # at 5 in the morning or so - that's why there wasn't much traffic, except # for the garbage trucks. # # - Jerry Kaidor # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:19:07 -0500 From: Tom Moulder Subject: Re: xj: best chase scene ever http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/movie-with-the-best-car-chase-scene.asp http://www.misterpoll.com/1974006769.html http://www.moviesforguys.com/articles/top10chases.shtml > > - -- tm / Houston / 85 Jeep Cherokee, 2 dr. 2.5L, 4x4 Indecision may or may not be my problem. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:50:21 -0700 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: best chase scene ever what exactly were you researching?! ;-) great fun, but kinda' spooky to watch while i think of all the time i spend on 2 wheels in that city on streets i recognize in the film,... (let's ignore the Green Bug that keeps managing to get in front of them, or the fact that it's logistically impossible to drive some of that in the order it's made to appear,...) heck, i'm on my way there on 2 wheels again in just a few minutes! cheers! e john wrote: > found this while doing some research for a grad school project... > really... :) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:47:44 -0700 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: [db] RE: xj: best chase scene ever i think he's talking about C'itait un Rendez-Vous. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C'%C3%A9tait_un_rendez-vous http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssM-xjp--rg cheers! e john wrote: > which one is that? > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jerome Kaidor wrote: > > # john wrote: > # > > # > yes, also good... > # *** Wow, that old French one is mind-blowing. Apparently the guy > # actually did it - no fake. They arrested him after the film came > # out. And it seems he did it in a Mercedes, and dubbed in the Ferrari > # sounds afterwards. So it's on topic:). Looks like he hit the streets > # at 5 in the morning or so - that's why there wasn't much traffic, except > # for the garbage trucks. > # > # - Jerry Kaidor > # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:07:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: best chase scene ever was researching windshield wiper use and RAIN SHIELD, ran across a thread on wipers and the guy had some info on Bullitt... ;) (easily distracted... :) same thing can be said about the james bond movie, in her majesty's service... they show Schiltorn in Switzerland and then a wide variety of locations no where near there... and in the blues bros. same kind of thing... :) guess they don't want to make a travel documentary, eh? ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, ernest breakfield wrote: # what exactly were you researching?! ;-) # # great fun, but kinda' spooky to watch while i think of all the time # i spend on 2 wheels in that city on streets i recognize in the film,... # (let's ignore the Green Bug that keeps managing to get in front of them, # or the fact that it's logistically impossible to drive some of that in # the order it's made to appear,...) # heck, i'm on my way there on 2 wheels again in just a few minutes! # # # cheers! # e # # # john wrote: # > found this while doing some research for a grad school project... # > really... :) # > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:46:07 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever rofl... the '68 mustang wasn't even 4 years old... we bought it new in Oct '68... I think it cost $3,200. I bought it from my folks as soon as I had my license. I finally parted with it in Germany in 1979... it was rusting pretty bad after six winters in Chicago... burning oil too... had about 95,000 miles on it... valves most likely... back in those days 70k was about it for an engine... :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # LOL brilliant!! # # # You had cars like that in high school?? # I had something like this: # http://www.mtbdiary.co.uk/images/fullsize/fire_mountain.jpg # # On 10/26/07, john wrote: # > imagine yourself in High School, # > your best friend owns a '66 Charger, # > you own a '68 Mustang... you go # > to the movies and watch that on the # > big screen... # > # > the hair on my arm still stands up every time # > I see that chase scene or hear those engines... :) # > # > My friend and I burned up a set of tires that # > year... :) man that was fun... # > # > ----- # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to be # > # able to get ahead of both of them ;-) # > # "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..." # > # # > # On 10/26/07, john wrote: # > # > found this while doing some research for a grad school project... # > # > really... :) # > # > # > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** # > # > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:57:19 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: RE: fsj: best chase scene ever cool a Bricklin. :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jim Blair wrote: # http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5481659007399053377&q=junkman&total=167&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:47:43 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Back in high school I had a Mazda RX2 with the Cosmo 3 rotor engine and 2 turbos with NOs and custom everything under the hood (I built the car with help from the Mazda Canada racing team and Jarman Mazda motors where I used to work as a lot boy) Top speed was a possible 275 mph with a 6 speed Mann transmission and dual ratio D60 (I think, but it could've been a small Eaton) diff with IRS and Toyota crown frame grafted in for handling along with a home made Targa style body kit. I had a number of big block Mopars (I bought all sorts of cars from the back of the lots that needed work for -at-$50-$200 and then parted them to pay for my car's upgrades) and a '66 Pontiac Firebird with the OHC 6 and 4 speed (my brother sold it when I was posted overseas. He replaced it with a '55 Pontiac show car called Sparkling Blue) and I could continue with my list of vehicles I have had over the years, but the electrons would get tired! _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook ^V together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:51:39 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever Oh! My point was I watched a LOT of movies (Gone in 60, Junkman, Drive In, Vanishing Point, etc) usually at the Drive In and afterwards, woe on anyone who tried to challenge me! Latimer road was our "hangout" (at least till the cops showed up) We quit going there after some dumbass didn't shut his car down (he was ticked he lost the race and his pink slip) and kept going through the stop sign and killed a family out for a drive. You have to use caution when pulling stupid kid tricks! _________________________________________________________________ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Cafi. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLt agline ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:30:22 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: xj: TORQUE FOR HEAD BOLTS ON 4.0 A: It depends on the year. They went to non-retorque bolts -at-'96 From: "El PROFESOR 4X4" Subject: xj: TORQUE FOR HEAD BOLTS ON 4.0 I NEED TO KNOW THE TORQUE NEEDED ON 4.0 CYLINDER HEAD BOLTS, THANKS! DAN STARC _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailne ws ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:39:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever jim, the first model year of the firebird was 1967... gm was playing catch up to ford... the camaro came out for the '67 model year as well... now, seeing as how you're from the great white north, it's possible that since the car was possibly MADE in 1966, it might have been titled as a '66. But it would have been a '67. :) the last year before pcv valves and shoulder harnesses became normal... along with lighted front side markers and rear side reflectors. look at a '67 mustang, then a '68... the '68 has lighted front side markers, the '67 doesn't... :) interesting the little things one picks up owning both years... also, my '67 didn't have shoulder straps, my '68 did... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jim Blair wrote: # car's upgrades) and a '66 Pontiac Firebird with the OHC 6 and 4 speed (my ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:28:34 -0500 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever My first car was an 82 Diesel Chevette. Wish I had it back now. Cost less than your bike back in 93.http://www.dieselchevettes.com/ Allen > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:02:40 +0100> From: srigley-at-gmail.com> To: xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever> CC: fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com> > LOL brilliant!!> > > You had cars like that in high school??> I had something like this:> http://www.mtbdiary.co.uk/images/fullsize/fire_mountain.jpg> > On 10/26/07, john wrote:> > imagine yourself in High School,> > your best friend owns a '66 Charger,> > you own a '68 Mustang... you go> > to the movies and watch that on the> > big screen...> >> > the hair on my arm still stands up every time> > I see that chase scene or hear those engines... :)> >> > My friend and I burned up a set of tires that> > year... :) man that was fun...> >> > -----> > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Stephen Rigley wrote:> >> > # Amazing how fast that Dark Green Beetle is tho'... always seems to be> > # able to get ahead of both of them ;-)> > # "and the award for most wheel hop goes to..."> > #> > # On 10/26/07, john wrote:> > # > found this while doing some research for a grad school project...> > # > really... :)> > # >> > # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36MFh4of6lE> > # >> > # > -----> > # > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> > # > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> > # > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > # >> > # _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play Star Shuffle: the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_oct ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:02:04 -0500 From: "David Bierschank" Subject: Re: xj: Re: [db] best chase scene ever My 67 did not even come with seat belts. It had a place for them so I added some new old stock belts. Oklahoma's seat belt laws exclude anything 68 (I think it is 68 maybe 67) and older, at least it did back in the eighties. They may have done away with the exclusion now. 67 was the first year on the Mustang to have several "safety" features. David On 10/27/07, john wrote: > > jim, > > the first model year of the firebird was 1967... gm was playing > catch up to ford... the camaro came out for the '67 model year as well... > > now, seeing as how you're from the great white north, it's possible > that since the car was possibly MADE in 1966, it might have been > titled as a '66. But it would have been a '67. :) > > the last year before pcv valves and shoulder harnesses became normal... > along with lighted front side markers and rear side reflectors. > > look at a '67 mustang, then a '68... the '68 has lighted front > side markers, the '67 doesn't... :) > > interesting the little things one picks up owning both years... also, > my '67 didn't have shoulder straps, my '68 did... > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2007, Jim Blair wrote: > > # car's upgrades) and a '66 Pontiac Firebird with the OHC 6 and 4 speed > (my > - -- David Bierschank Okiebinder okc67mustang-at-gmail.com okiebinder-at-cox.net ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2675 *************************