From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Nov 12 10:35:23 2007 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, November 12 2007 Volume 01 : Number 2685 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: RE: xj: oil prices, a thank you... xj: Diesel in California? There is hope... XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 18:04:11 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: oil prices, a thank you... I tanked up on Tuesday at 2.99 for regular. ZJ is still full. I drive it once a week or so. 70mpg motorcycle is the choice right now. diesel benz still going on wvo also, but wvo supply is getting tougher to get. Allen > Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:56:56 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; k9radio-at-att.net; cars-at-cox.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; lasikeyes-at-msn.com; Brad.Seevers-at-ppmtech.com; bull-at-eskimo.com; jcjones-at-jtruck.net; kenall-at-comcast.net; mike-at-graydogdesign.com; cyberwes-at-qwestoffice.net; grhubert-at-sbcglobal.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net> Subject: xj: oil prices, a thank you...> > a fellow lister sent me this blog on energy, I've taken the liberty> to rename the file: (I can't take credit for the graphics, text,> diagrams, research or internal comments, shoot, I'm not even the> messenger... :)> http://wagoneers.com/MISC/History/ThankYouDemocratsForTheOilPrices.pdf> > - -----> ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook ^V together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971 033 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:34:40 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Diesel in California? There is hope... fyi ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Wes Molsberry A friend in California sent this to me. Subject: Fwd: We may yet get clean diesel engines in California "With gas prices heading for the statosphere with no signs of coming down, Volkswagen is hoping that it's newest fuel-sipper will appeal to people wanting hybrid-like efficiency at a fraction of the price. The Polo Blue Motion, gets about 62 mpg. While this isn't quite as breathtaking as some concept cars such as the 157 mpg Loremo seen at: http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/02/loremo_ag_157_m.php, the VW Polo is available for sale NOW in Germany. Perhaps the most appealing part of VW's new equation is that the bottom line checks in at a shade under $20,000 there. According to Edmunds.com, this means that "hybrids may be in the limelight right now, but conventional diesels still hold the upper hand when the right measures are applied." With low-sulphur diesel coming to the States, we might be pumping biodiesel into one of these babies sooner rather than later." Collin Dunn - -------------------------------------------------------------- "The all-new i-DTEC is the 2nd diesel engine Honda has developed. By further improving the current award winning i-CTDi's superb performance, fuel economy, and emission efficiencies, i-DTEC has achieved various stringent emission standards in the U.S., Japan, and Europe according to Honda test data. The first phase of the program, compliance with the Euro 5 legislation expected in 2009, has already reached fruition, and an example of the new engine, which makes its first appearance in next year's Accord range, is scheduled to be shown on a test stand at the 2008 Geneva motor show. Honda continues to work on the second phase of development of its latest diesel engine and has already achieved compliance with the stringent USA Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Tier II/Bin 5 emissions requirements. This is of particular significance to the European market in that the USA Tier II standards are even more demanding than the Euro 6 requirements which remain at the proposal stage. An example of this second engine is scheduled for display. 7 In Euro 5 regulation, emissions of particulates from diesel-engined cars are expected to be reduced by 80 per cent compared to Euro 4 (down from 25 to 5 mg/km), while NOx levels are cut from 250 to 180 mg/km. 7 Tier II is the second stage of US emissions standards and is split into eight permanent and three temporary certification levels called ^Qbins' to which vehicles are certified. When fully implemented in 2009 at "Bin 5 level", a manufacturer's light-vehicle fleet must meet the average NOx standard of approximately 43.5 mg/km (0.07 g/mile) which is equivalent to California's LEV II standard." World.Honda.com ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2685 *************************