From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Feb 10 21:39:53 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, February 11 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2737 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: [db] GM Building New Diesel Engine At Ohio Plant (fwd) xj: RE: fsj: [db] GM Building New Diesel Engine At Ohio Plant (fwd) xj: Diesel dreams... a day of vacation well spent... :) xj: RE: [db] Diesel dreams... a day of vacation well spent... :) xj: RE: fsj: best riding lift? 2" or 4" XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:49:03 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: [db] GM Building New Diesel Engine At Ohio Plant (fwd) http://www.manufacturing.net/News-GM-Building-New-Diesel-Engine-At-Ohio-Plant.aspx?menuid=36 does anyone know if the 6.6 will bolt up to a 700R4 that's mated to the 6.2? ;) need to get outside and finish up some wiring and a few other mechanical tasks, and Omega will be heading down the hill to the muffler shop... airport welding at harvey field on the south end of snohomish... only open during the weekdays... took the day off... worked on it last night and found the aux tank may be hooked up wrong... or it's gone bad which would be odd since it was working on superdawg... 7 years ago... ;) it's not pouring rain, in the 40s... wind warning which means we may get a storm later, but we'll see... heading out to the carport to get some quality wrench time in. :) of course, pictures to follow... will do a complete write up on this conversion project... used off the shelf parts for the most part... john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.manufacturing.net/News-GM-Building-New-Diesel-Engine-At-Ohio-Plant.aspx?menuid=36 Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:52:10 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: fsj: [db] GM Building New Diesel Engine At Ohio Plant (fwd) It's probably an Isuzu patterned engine. Jim Blair > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 09:49:03 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; FParker24-at-verizon.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net > Subject: fsj: [db] GM Building New Diesel Engine At Ohio Plant (fwd) > > http://www.manufacturing.net/News-GM-Building-New-Diesel-Engine-At-Ohio-Plant .aspx?menuid=36 > > does anyone know if the 6.6 will bolt up to a 700R4 that's mated to the 6.2? ;) > > need to get outside and finish up some wiring and a few other mechanical > tasks, and Omega will be heading down the hill to the muffler shop... airport > welding at harvey field on the south end of snohomish... only open during > the weekdays... took the day off... worked on it last night and found the > aux tank may be hooked up wrong... or it's gone bad which would be odd since > it was working on superdawg... 7 years ago... ;) > > it's not pouring rain, in the 40s... wind warning which means we may get > a storm later, but we'll see... heading out to the carport to get some quality > wrench time in. :) > > of course, pictures to follow... will do a complete write up on this conversion > project... used off the shelf parts for the most part... > > john > > ----- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > there's a solution for every problem; > problem is can we afford the solution? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.manufacturing.net/News-GM-Building-New-Diesel-Engine-At-Ohio-Plant .aspx?menuid=36 > > Jim _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:33:47 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Diesel dreams... a day of vacation well spent... :) Omega is functional, more or less... Omega actually saw asphalt... (which is good, 4wd doesn't seem to work)... about 10 miles total... no flames, no pieces fell off... I'm back from Airport Welding... had a 3" pipe put into a 3" Magnaflow muffler, but we muzzled it down to the stock 2.5" tail pipe... until I can get a lift on the jeep a 3" would likely be reformed with the first bump I hit. :) should be fine as is... wasn't very loud going down with just an open collector. I got the wiring figured out to get it started and driving, still cutting holes in the dash for the glow plug light assy and will wire in the lights and such tomorrow. Not sure if I'm ready to start the stereo install or WJ seats until it's running right... ...it's not running very well... not sure if it's just because it's been sitting for so long or if the engine or injection pump is marginal. The trans doesn't seem to shift right either, but it was pretty low on fluid... added three quarts and it's still a smidgen low... haven't driven it since I added the last quart. no leaks in the coolant system, looks like a small oil leak on the front seal. Power Steering/brakes really need another belt. Guess I'll need to go to a wrecking yard to get a GM a/c pump so the belts and brackets are right... not sure what happened to the one on the truck, think it may have gone with the cab. :( If I can remember the guy's name he may have an extra unit. taking the night off... will be working on the '89 GW and my son's 74 javelin wiring tomorrow... :) a vacation day well spent. :) :) john ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 08:38:00 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: xj: RE: [db] Diesel dreams... a day of vacation well spent... :) Awaiting Saturday's update. This has been a long time coming. Lots of Popcorn eaten. Allen> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 16:33:47 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> To: fsj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; FParker24-at-verizon.net; ABCvoice-at-worldnet.att.net; Jeepbuilder-at-comcast.net; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; k9radio-at-att.net; lasikeyes-at-msn.com; grhubert-at-sbcglobal.net; jipc-at-comcast.net; wallacem7-at-aol.com; Machine.ad-at-comcast.net> Subject: [db] Diesel dreams... a day of vacation well spent... :)> > Omega is functional, more or less... > > Omega actually saw asphalt... (which is good, 4wd doesn't> seem to work)... about 10 miles total... no flames, no pieces fell off...> > I'm back from Airport Welding... had a 3" pipe put into a 3" Magnaflow> muffler, but we muzzled it down to the stock 2.5" tail pipe... until I can get> a lift on the jeep a 3" would likely be reformed with the first bump I hit. :)> should be fine as is... wasn't very loud going down with just an open collector.> > I got the wiring figured out to get it started and driving, still cutting holes> in the dash for the glow plug light assy and will wire in the lights and such> tomorrow. Not sure if I'm ready to start the stereo install or WJ seats until> it's running right...> > ...it's not running very well... not sure if it's just because it's been sitting> for so long or if the engine or injection pump is marginal. The trans doesn't> seem to shift right either, but it was pretty low on fluid... added three quarts> and it's still a smidgen low... haven't driven it since I added the last quart.> > no leaks in the coolant system, looks like a small oil leak on the front seal.> > Power Steering/brakes really need another belt. Guess I'll need to go to a wrecking> yard to get a GM a/c pump so the belts and brackets are right... not sure> what happened to the one on the truck, think it may have gone with the cab. :(> If I can remember the guy's name he may have an extra unit.> > taking the night off... will be working on the '89 GW and my son's 74 javelin wiring> tomorrow... :) a vacation day well spent. :)> > :)> john> > -----> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> there's a solution for every problem;> problem is can we afford the solution?> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:38:55 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: RE: fsj: best riding lift? 2" or 4" jim, remember, the PRIME OBJECTIVES: 1) clear the oil pan and exhaust on the axles 2) provide a stock ride or better 3) not have to modify panhard bars or brakes. 4) not spend a day in gravel and mud messing with used parts 5) not looking for elevation, already have 3" of body lift I've done the used spring thing before, it took all day of laying springs all over my driveway, grease and dirt everywhere... when I got all done I barely saw 2" of lift and then it wasn't as planned... it took WAY more time than just installing brand new springs. see, I've done it before... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/J10-poormans-lift/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/tech/Suspension/poor-man-lift-calculations.html I did this 8 years ago... it's worth it to just buy the ones with the correct spring rate already figured out.. Now, if you want to come over and do it for me, be happy to pay you... :) Otherwise, I'm considering one of these as options: either the 2" or 4". I want a nice ride, to overcome the sag by the weight and age, running 235's, might go to 30x9.5s or even 31x10.5s. most likely will stay with the 235s, the Diesel seems fine with that size and they'll ride just fine... The 2" kit is preferred, no brake work, should get the arch back into things and work fine with the 3" of body lift... http://www.bjsoffroad.com/cartgenie/prodInfo.asp?pid=524&cid=14 BJ's 2-inch lift springs with u-bolts. This is perfect for someone who wants to put their Full-Size Jeep at the height the factory should put on them. Stock shocks and brakelines will work with this kit. or http://www.bjsoffroad.com/cartgenie/prodInfo.asp?pid=488&cid=14 BJ's Off-Road Custom 4-inch Suspension System. Our Suspension System is All-Spring with NO BLOCKS! Impress your friends, clear more obstacles, and make your rig look like it SHOULD have from the factory! You'll be amazed at how comfortable the ride is and how much better your off-road performance will be! Fits: 1976-1991 # Models: All # 4 New Leaf Springs (No Blocks) # New Grade 8 U-Bolts and Hardware # Braided Stainless Steel Extended Brakelines With Factory Fittings Included (unless otherwise noted) # Shocks Included (Rancho or Pro Comp -- Rancho Shocks Include Shock Boots) # Very Comfortable, Soft Ride ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- there's a solution for every problem; problem is can we afford the solution? - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2737 *************************