From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Feb 15 07:35:02 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, February 15 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2740 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: 42RE help? xj: Re: [db] Detroit Auto Show: Diesels Turn Green and Ecofriendly Re: xj: 42RE help? xj: administrivia: notes on using this list RE: xj: 42RE help? RE: xj: 42RE help? XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:34 -0800 From: "David Smith" Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help? Curious, does your 42re have a significant delay when cold to shift from neutral to drive? My original 42re had that problem before and after first rebuild, after the second rebuild with the transgo shift kit the problem was gone, and this second 42re also had the delay shifting into gear. Thanks, Dave On 2/14/08, Allen Zylstra wrote: > > That is going to be my plan when the 42re goes. I have 170K and still > chuggin. The 93 ZJ had the AW4 so the correct mounts are available > stock. I > think a computer from an XJ is needed to control the AW4 and give the PCM > the > correct signals. > > Allen> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30:58 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com> > To: > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help?> > sounds like a lockup > issue... or > > a torque converter...> > any possibility of migrating that trans to an AW4 > or > a 45RFE?> > john> > -----> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold> > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > On > Wed, 13 Feb 2008, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote:> > # Good thing there is > a > warranty on it.> # I would bring it back without fooling around with it.> > # > Does it only do this in 1st gear?> # > # Jesse.> # > # ----- Original > Message > -----> # From: David Smith > # Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:55 am> > # > Subject: xj: 42RE help?> # To: xj-at-digest.net> # > # > Well my 97 Jeep had > a > 42RE failure again, this time I opted to > # > put in an> # > unknown > mileage > tranny bought from a wrecker with 6 mo warranty.> # > > # > It seems to > work > OK, the only issue I have is that from a dead > # > stop if I do> # > any > more > than slowly throttle up the tranny starts to chatter > # > and skip.> # > > If I > start off the line slowish then accelerate I can accelerate > # > as hard > as> > # > I want with no problems.> # > > # > Any ideas what this might be?> # > > _________________________________________________________________ > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. > > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:48:48 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: [db] Detroit Auto Show: Diesels Turn Green and Ecofriendly long live Rudolf Christian Diesel... well, at least his most excellent idea. :) ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com ** - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 14 Feb 2008, Jim Hoffman wrote: # Thought this might interest some people... # # http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/feb08/5968 # # Jim # # # -- # '99 Dodge RAM 2500 4X4 Cummins Turbo Diesel # '94 Ford F-350 4X4 IDI Turbo Diesel # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:59:46 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help? Sounds like the sprague clutch is slipping. Too bad Jeep (Dodge) never got smart and made it accessible from the backside (that was part of my redesign for the hemi powered RCMP freeway cruisers that kept them rolling way beyond warranty) They did make the 999 (32RE) better by bolting the sprague to the back of the case (should've made the case thicker though as a common problem is shattered casing) I would mod an AW4 to go in sooner than later (the power boost is quite nice too as there is less drag) You'd have to do some rewiring with a harness from an XJ to make it happen. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 From: "David Smith" Subject: xj: 42RE help? Well my 97 Jeep had a 42RE failure again, this time I opted to put in an unknown mileage tranny bought from a wrecker with 6 mo warranty. It seems to work OK, the only issue I have is that from a dead stop if I do any more than slowly throttle up the tranny starts to chatter and skip. If I start off the line slowish then accelerate I can accelerate as hard as I want with no problems. Any ideas what this might be? _________________________________________________________________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail.-get your "fix". http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 07:05:01 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. 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What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:26:19 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help? Yep. It also likes slow acceleration. I don't know how much longer I got, but it has been like this for about 3 years. I don't put alot of miles on it. It is the secondary vehicle and trailer tower. Allen> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:34 -0800> From: dsmith-at-mypchelp.com> To: xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help?> > Curious, does your 42re have a significant delay when cold to shift from> neutral to drive?> My original 42re had that problem before and after first rebuild, after the> second rebuild with the transgo shift kit the problem was gone, and this> second 42re also had the delay shifting into gear.> > Thanks,> Dave> > On 2/14/08, Allen Zylstra wrote:> >> > That is going to be my plan when the 42re goes. I have 170K and still> > chuggin. The 93 ZJ had the AW4 so the correct mounts are available> > stock. I> > think a computer from an XJ is needed to control the AW4 and give the PCM> > the> > correct signals.> >> > Allen> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30:58 -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com>> > To:> > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help?> > sounds like a lockup> > issue... or> >> > a torque converter...> > any possibility of migrating that trans to an AW4> > or> > a 45RFE?> > john> > ----->> > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> > http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > > On> > Wed, 13 Feb 2008, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote:> > # Good thing there is> > a> > warranty on it.> # I would bring it back without fooling around with it.>> > #> > Does it only do this in 1st gear?> # > # Jesse.> # > # ----- Original> > Message> > -----> # From: David Smith > # Date: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 1:55 am>> > #> > Subject: xj: 42RE help?> # To: xj-at-digest.net> # > # > Well my 97 Jeep had> > a> > 42RE failure again, this time I opted to > # > put in an> # > unknown> > mileage> > tranny bought from a wrecker with 6 mo warranty.> # > > # > It seems to> > work> > OK, the only issue I have is that from a dead > # > stop if I do> # > any> > more> > than slowly throttle up the tranny starts to chatter > # > and skip.> # >> > If I> > start off the line slowish then accelerate I can accelerate > # > as hard> > as>> > # > I want with no problems.> # > > # > Any ideas what this might be?> #> >> > _________________________________________________________________> > Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> >> > http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 _________________________________________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star power. http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:31:08 -0600 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help? I probably need to start looking for a donor XJ to pilfer. Allen> From: allenzylstra-at-hotmail.com> To: xj-at-digest.net> Subject: RE: xj: 42RE help?> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:26:19 -0600> > Yep. It also likes slow acceleration. I don't know how much longer I got,> but it has been like this for about 3 years.> > I don't put alot of miles on it. It is the secondary vehicle and trailer> tower.> > Allen> Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 11:06:34 -0800> From: dsmith-at-mypchelp.com> To:> xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help?> > Curious, does your 42re have a> significant delay when cold to shift from> neutral to drive?> My original 42re> had that problem before and after first rebuild, after the> second rebuild> with the transgo shift kit the problem was gone, and this> second 42re also> had the delay shifting into gear.> > Thanks,> Dave> > On 2/14/08, Allen> Zylstra wrote:> >> > That is going to be my plan> when the 42re goes. I have 170K and still> > chuggin. The 93 ZJ had the AW4 so> the correct mounts are available> > stock. I> > think a computer from an XJ is> needed to control the AW4 and give the PCM> > the> > correct signals.> >> >> Allen> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 10:30:58 - -0800> From: john-at-wagoneers.com>> >> To:> > xj-at-digest.net> Subject: Re: xj: 42RE help?> > sounds like a lockup> >> issue... or> >> > a torque converter...> > any possibility of migrating that> trans to an AW4> > or> > a 45RFE?> > john> > ----->> >> - ---------------------------------------------------------------------->> >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold>> >> http://freegift.com ** http://wagoneers.com **>> >> - ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > >> On> > Wed, 13 Feb 2008, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote:> > # Good thing there> is> > a> > warranty on it.> # I would bring it back without fooling around> with it.>> > #> > Does it only do this in 1st gear?> # > # Jesse.> # > # -----> Original> > Message> > -----> # From: David Smith > # Date: Wednesday,> February 13, 2008 1:55 am>> > #> > Subject: xj: 42RE help?> # To:> xj-at-digest.net> # > # > Well my 97 Jeep had> > a> > 42RE failure again, this> time I opted to > # > put in an> # > unknown> > mileage> > tranny bought from> a wrecker with 6 mo warranty.> # > > # > It seems to> > work> > OK, the only> issue I have is that from a dead > # > stop if I do> # > any> > more> > than> slowly throttle up the tranny starts to chatter > # > and skip.> # >> > If I>> > start off the line slowish then accelerate I can accelerate > # > as hard> >> as>> > # > I want with no problems.> # > > # > Any ideas what this might be?>> #> >> > _________________________________________________________________> >> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> >> >> http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008> _________________________________________________________________> Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star> power.> http://club.live.com/star_shuffle.aspx?icid=starshuffle_wlmailtextlink_jan _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2740 *************************