From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jun 5 21:52:33 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, June 6 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2807 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: jeep parts xj: air power Re: xj: air power Re: xj: air power Re: xj: air power xj: parts info RE: xj: parts info RE: xj: parts info xj: parts RE: xj: parts RE: xj: parts XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 21:21:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: jeep parts mostly parts for '96 vintage Cherokee XJ 4.0L: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/06-Jun-04-misc-parts-garden/xjparts-2.jpg other shots: http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/06-Jun-04-misc-parts-garden/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 09:20:37 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: air power http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4 a hybrid setup with a small Diesel would be very practical... the 2nd engine they mention is a wankel, but I don't recall if they called it that... If I can get 24 mpg out of a 5,600lb Grand Wagoneer with an inefficient 6.2L Diesel, image what you could do with a turbo Diesel and this setup! john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:58:57 -0400 From: "Christopher Wilson" Subject: Re: xj: air power Is it really a wankel? I said 'rotary' but I didn't see the familiar wankel rotor. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM, john wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4 > > a hybrid setup with a small Diesel would be very practical... > > the 2nd engine they mention is a wankel, but I don't recall > if they called it that... > > If I can get 24 mpg out of a 5,600lb Grand Wagoneer with > an inefficient 6.2L Diesel, image what you could do with > a turbo Diesel and this setup! > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 10:22:00 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: air power not sure... either way, promising technology... wonder if they'll come up with suitable replacements for existing powerplants... might not be feasible because of the weight... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, Christopher Wilson wrote: # Is it really a wankel? I said 'rotary' but I didn't see the familiar wankel # rotor. # # On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM, john wrote: # # > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4 # > # > a hybrid setup with a small Diesel would be very practical... # > # > the 2nd engine they mention is a wankel, but I don't recall # > if they called it that... # > # > If I can get 24 mpg out of a 5,600lb Grand Wagoneer with # > an inefficient 6.2L Diesel, image what you could do with # > a turbo Diesel and this setup! # > # > john # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Kummel Subject: Re: xj: air power Wow! Air powered engines! And you know what? If you heat the air up, it will expand and push the pistons harder and give more power! And then you could inject some kind of flamable fuel in with the compressed air, and then ignite it somehow...you know...some kind of a "spark"...but you'ld have to time this so that it happens at the right time....Wow...just think of the power you'ld get with this! ;-P Ed web/gadget guru john wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmqpGZv0YT4 a hybrid setup with a small Diesel would be very practical... the 2nd engine they mention is a wankel, but I don't recall if they called it that... If I can get 24 mpg out of a 5,600lb Grand Wagoneer with an inefficient 6.2L Diesel, image what you could do with a turbo Diesel and this setup! john - ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL Never mind that we just had an incredibly cold winter in North America and huge record snowfalls across the continent. As Al Gore said to a bunch of us the other day, these record cold spells and record snowfalls are actually caused by global warming. To which Jerry York replied, "Jeez then I guess we better stop this global warming before we all f**king freeze to death, eh?" - "Fake" Steve Jobs 3/24/08 blog entry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: parts info somewhere along the way I've ended up with a set of disks that have service/parts info for jeeps... not sure where they came from (don't want to know), can't find any copyright notices in the pdf files with the jeep info... obviously this stuff is from jeep and their data. however, as jeep owners this info will help us locate parts and service our vehicles and assist our local dealer parts folks... so I'm putting them on my server with that intent. if someone finds that this is not permissible just let me know and I'll pull the files from public access. the files I selected are primarily for vehicles I own or have to support. with this disclaimer, and the fact that this info is most likely obsolete, here's the link: http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/PARTS-PDFs/ ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 19:02:05 -0400 From: "n1ujs-at-toast.net" Subject: RE: xj: parts info Heh heh....."I hear" that starting in July Chrysler will update them monthly, and they will all be on ONE disk......so I'm betting there will be a LOT of loose disks falling from the sky...... >------- Original Message ------- >From : john[mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] >Sent : 6/5/2008 2:31:56 PM >To : >Cc : >Subject : RE: xj: parts info > >somewhere along the way I've ended up with a set of disks that have service/parts info for jeeps... not sure where they came from (don't want to know), can't find any copyright notices in the pdf files with the jeep info... obviously this stuff is from jeep and their data. however, as jeep owners this info will help us locate parts and service our vehicles and assist our local dealer parts folks... so I'm putting them on my server with that intent. if someone finds that this is not permissible just let me know and I'll pull the files from public access. the files I selected are primarily for vehicles I own or have to support. with this disclaimer, and the fact that this info is most likely obsolete, here's the link: http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/PARTS-PDFs/ ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:47:03 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: xj: parts info that would be cool for us... the old parts manuals and disks are always helpful in restorations and such... most parts guys actually appreciate when you come in equipped with part numbers and diagrams... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, n1ujs-at-toast.net wrote: # Heh heh....."I hear" that starting in July Chrysler will update them # monthly, and they will all be on ONE disk......so I'm betting there will # be a LOT of loose disks falling from the sky...... # # # # >------- Original Message ------- # >From : john[mailto:john-at-wagoneers.com] # >Sent : 6/5/2008 2:31:56 PM # >To : # >Cc : # >Subject : RE: xj: parts info # > # >somewhere along the way I've ended up with a set of disks # that have service/parts info for jeeps... not sure where # they came from (don't want to know), can't find any copyright # notices in the pdf files with the jeep info... obviously this stuff # is from jeep and their data. however, as jeep owners this # info will help us locate parts and service our vehicles and # assist our local dealer parts folks... so I'm putting them on my # server with that intent. if someone finds that this is not # permissible just let me know and I'll pull the files from # public access. the files I selected are primarily for vehicles # I own or have to support. # # with this disclaimer, and the fact that this info is most likely # obsolete, # here's the link: # http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/tech/PARTS-PDFs/ # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: # http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 17:51:03 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: parts pump kit 04637192 - '96 xj fuel pump Trans Filter 83504032 - '96 xj AW4 - dtd 12/10/99 195 deg Thermostat - 1-83501426AC - 4.0L dtd 01/05/01 smaller timing gear sprocket - 53020443 - 4.0L dtd 10/16/2000 timing chain - 430444 - 4.0L dtd 11/03/00 large timing gear sprocket - 53020445 - 4.0L dtd 05/04/01 oil seal (NAPA) - 15560 - 4.0L serpentine belt - q4061025 - mopar - 4.0L o-ring - 83503758 - 4.0L - dtd 01/15/01 seal - 83503752 - 4.0L - dtd 02/23/2000 harmonic balancer - 1-33002920AB - 4.0L - 4/23/01 front axle u-joint '88 XJ - 04728937 - dtd 11/07/96 front axle u-joint '88 XJ - 04728937 - dtd 11/07/96 crank position sensor - works - used - 04638128 - 10/01 spider assy - J8130750 - Mopar - 09/96 http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/06-Jun-04-misc-parts-garden/xjparts-2.jpg need to find out the prices... all (except the CPS) are new parts in original packaging... the u-joints may work on both XJs and SJs... at one point I learned that the u-joints for my '81 Wagoneer (SJ) used the same u-joints as my '88 Cherokee/Wagoneer (XJ). I guess I'll call my local jeep dealer and see if they'll take any of this back... or use it with the sick XJ my neighbor is selling... got the pictures of it today... no way am I going to let jim dismember it for a few parts that I already have unmounted... ;) jim, I have the intake manifold and injectors and wiring harness and computer... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 23:02:00 -0400 From: "n1ujs-at-toast.net" Subject: RE: xj: parts Excuse the editing John!! pump kit 04637192 - ('96 xj fuel pump?) $288.00 list (STAR PARTS says 87- 93) Trans Filter 83504032 - '96 xj AW4 - dtd 12/10/99 (list WAS $67.35, now suped.to 83504032ab for warranty repair, 5083122aa for retail. Fits 87- 01) 195 deg Thermostat - 1-83501426AC - 4.0L dtd 01/05/01 $13.10 list 84-96 smaller timing gear sprocket - 53020443 - 4.0L dtd 10/16/2000 $25.85 list, fits 94-98 timing chain -53020444 (fixed this part#)- 4.0L dtd 11/03/00 $36.95 list, fits 94-01 XJ and many other cars and years large timing gear sprocket - 53020445 - 4.0L dtd 05/04/01 $25.85 list, fits 94-98 oil seal (NAPA) - 15560 - 4.0L serpentine belt - q4061025 - mopar - 4.0L $47.15 list (VALUE LINE PART) fits 87-90 o-ring - 83503758 - 4.0L - dtd 01/15/01 $23.50 list, fits '87-01 AW4 transmission pump (laarge seal) seal - 83503752 - 4.0L - dtd 02/23/2000 $21.60 list. 87-01 AW4 (small seal) harmonic balancer - 1-33002920AB - 4.0L - 4/23/01 $72.10 list, fits 87-00 (supes to 33002920AC) front prop shaft (NOT axle) u-joint '88 XJ - 04728937 - dtd 11/07/96 $38.00 list, fits 91-96(supes to 4882793) front prop shaft (NOT front axle) u-joint '88 XJ - 04728937 - dtd 11/07/96 $38.00 list fits '91-96(supes to 4882793) crank position sensor (called "engine speed sensor" back then) - works - used - 04638128 - 10/01 $88.95 list, fits 91-92 prop shaft u-joint(spider assy?) - J8130750 - Mopar - 09/96 $64.95 list, fits 87-96 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 21:51:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: RE: xj: parts dude! you rock! bless you profusely! I knew I had a bloody fortune in that drawer... I have more stashed down in Centralia... Also have a lot of used parts as well... this was going to be my daily driver, it was going to be perfect. Then I decided to go with the Diesel... glad I did... 24 mpg beats 18mpg any day. :) was just out working on my '91 GW... figured out the aux fuel guage... I think... thanx, john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 5 Jun 2008, n1ujs-at-toast.net wrote: Excuse the editing John!! (EXCUSED. :) pump kit 04637192 - ('96 xj fuel pump?) $288.00 list (STAR PARTS says 87- 93) Trans Filter 83504032 - '96 xj AW4 - dtd 12/10/99 (list WAS $67.35, now suped.to 83504032ab for warranty repair, 5083122aa for retail. Fits 87- 01) 195 deg Thermostat - 1-83501426AC - 4.0L dtd 01/05/01 $13.10 list 84-96 smaller timing gear sprocket - 53020443 - 4.0L dtd 10/16/2000 $25.85 list, fits 94-98 timing chain -53020444 (fixed this part)- 4.0L dtd 11/03/00 $36.95 list, fits 94-01 XJ and many other cars and years large timing gear sprocket - 53020445 - 4.0L dtd 05/04/01 $25.85 list, fits 94-98 oil seal (NAPA) - 15560 - 4.0L serpentine belt - q4061025 - mopar - 4.0L $47.15 list (VALUE LINE PART) fits 87-90 o-ring - 83503758 - 4.0L - dtd 01/15/01 $23.50 list, fits '87-01 AW4 transmission pump (laarge seal) seal - 83503752 - 4.0L - dtd 02/23/2000 $21.60 list. 87-01 AW4 (small seal) harmonic balancer - 1-33002920AB - 4.0L - 4/23/01 $72.10 list, fits 87-00 (supes to 33002920AC) front prop shaft (NOT axle) u-joint '88 XJ - 04728937 - dtd 11/07/96 $38.00 list, fits 91-96(supes to 4882793) front prop shaft (NOT front axle) u-joint '88 XJ - 04728937 - dtd 11/07/96 $38.00 list fits '91-96(supes to 4882793) crank position sensor (called "engine speed sensor" back then) - works - used - 04638128 - 10/01 $88.95 list, fits 91-92 prop shaft u-joint(spider assy?) - J8130750 - Mopar - 09/96 $64.95 list, fits 87-96 ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2807 *************************