From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jul 14 21:02:46 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, July 15 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2830 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: FW: An open letter to all airline customers (fwd) xj: adventures with bioDiesel Re: xj: Re: Cruise Control xj: Name That Vacuum Line Re: xj: Name That Vacuum Line Re: xj: Name That Vacuum Line Re: xj: Name That Vacuum Line Re: xj: Re: cruise control Re: xj: Re: cruise control XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:44:45 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: FW: An open letter to all airline customers (fwd) Interesting....... got this from a friend in the aerospace industry... ________________________________ From: United [mailto:email-at-info.united.com] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 6:12 PM Subject: An open letter to all airline customers Planning & booking http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101391/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 Itineraries & check-in http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101392/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 Mileage Plus(r) http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101393/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 Services & information http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101394/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 Airplane http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101395/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 An open letter to all airline customers Dear Mr. X (name removed) Last week, crude oil hit an all-time high of $146, and the skyrocketing cost of fuel is impacting our customers, our employees, the communities we serve, and the economy as a whole. United, and the majority of other major U.S. airlines, are asking our most loyal customers to join us in pushing for legislation to add more transparency and disclosure in the oil markets. Please see the attached open letter from the leaders of the U.S. airline industry. Airline An Open letter to All Airline Customers: Our country is facing a possible sharp economic downturn because of skyrocketing oil and fuel prices, but by pulling together, we can all do something to help now. For airlines, ultra-expensive fuel means thousands of lost jobs and severe reductions in air service to both large and small communities. To the broader economy, oil prices mean slower activity and widespread economic pain. This pain can be alleviated, and that is why we are taking the extraordinary step of writing this joint letter to our customers. Since high oil prices are partly a response to normal market forces, the nation needs to focus on increased energy supplies and conservation. However, there is another side to this story because normal market forces are being dangerously amplified by poorly regulated market speculation. Twenty years ago, 21 percent of oil contracts were purchased by speculators who trade oil on paper with no intention of ever taking delivery. Today, oil speculators purchase 66 percent of all oil futures contracts, and that reflects just the transactions that are known. Speculators buy up large amounts of oil and then sell it to each other again and again. A barrel of oil may trade 20-plus times before it is delivered and used; the price goes up with each trade and consumers pick up the final tab. Some market experts estimate that current prices reflect as much as $30 to $60 per barrel in unnecessary speculative costs. Over seventy years ago, Congress established regulations to control excessive, largely unchecked market speculation and manipulation. However, over the past two decades, these regulatory limits have been weakened or removed. We believe that restoring and enforcing these limits, along with several other modest measures, will provide more disclosure, transparency and sound market oversight. Together, these reforms will help cool the over-heated oil market and permit the economy to prosper. The nation needs to pull together to reform the oil markets and solve this growing problem. We need your help. Get more information and contact Congress by visiting www.StopOilSpeculationNow.com http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101395/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 . Robert Fornaro Chairman, President and CEO AirTran Airways Bill Ayer Chairman, President and CEO Alaska Airlines, Inc. Gerard J. Arpey Chairman, President and CEO American Airlines, Inc. Lawrence W. Kellner Chairman and CEO Continental Airlines, Inc. Richard Anderson CEO Delta Air Lines, Inc. Mark B. Dunkerley President and CEO Hawaiian Airlines, Inc. Dave Barger CEO JetBlue Airways Corporation Timothy E. Hoeksema Chairman, President and CEO Midwest Airlines Douglas M. Steenland President and CEO Northwest Airlines, Inc. Gary Kelly Chairman and CEO Southwest Airlines Co. Glenn F. Tilton Chairman, President and CEO United Airlines, Inc. Douglas Parker Chairman and CEO US Airways Group, Inc. SOS http://www.unitedoffers.com/600-1sape/101395/235992/c56d00d3506cc7949233835802bf5302 http://www.united.com/page/article/0,8566,1249,00.html To contact the sender, write to: United Airlines Operations Center - WHQPW, 1200 E. Algonquin Rd., Elk Grove Township, Illinois 60007 USA (c) 2008 United Air Lines, Inc. All rights reserved. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:11:42 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: adventures with bioDiesel On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, ernest breakfield wrote: # i've found this 'concern' over BioD affecting fuel lines to be highly (rest of the thread below...) it's a real concern for me... with dual tanks and yards of fuel line... :) my first trouble came on my '91 300D... had to replace all the high pressure seal o-rings... then the fuel heater o-ring in line, after that it's been fine. on my 6.2L Diesel I've replaced the section of rubber line from the primary filter to the lift pump three times now... and the short rubber section to the return line to the tank once... AND, the fuel cutoff solenoid... It might not bother a 240D, a masterpiece of simplicity and elegance, but it sure as heck bothers the rest of the Diesels. ;) (My son's '85 300D seems to be ok with the little bit he's run through his... so far.) but, I concur with you, no need to worry until the fuel is dripping or things seize up... no point in fixing something that ain't broke. ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, ernest breakfield wrote: # i've found this 'concern' over BioD affecting fuel lines to be highly # overstated; 50+K miles on almost exclusively BioDiesel over the last 4.5 # years in the old 300D, and we're still looking for any hint of a reason # to replace them. (i watch them like i would any fuel line in any 20+ # year old vehicle, but i have no idea how old they were when i got the # car, either,...) # many people here in the fleet where i buy my BioD have had the same # experience after a few million collective miles on B100; and since fuel # line failure isn't catastrophic (but is preceded by much advance # warning), i'd say don't worry about it until you have an indication that # there's a need for it. # # # cheers! # e # # # Jim Blair wrote: # > I was checking into fuel lines for Biodiesel. Found out they need to be # > different from regular diesel hoses. Napa doesn't carry anything correct for # > it, but they are looking into it. # > # > Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # > # > # > # >> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 21:20:53 -0700 # >> From: john-at-wagoneers.com # >> To: # >> Subject: fsj: adventures with Diesel and other pictures # >> # >> spent Saturday morning replacing the fuel shutoff solenoid # >> on my 6.2L Diesel... doing much better... (replaced the fuel # >> line Thurs eve, still need to get Viton or similar to deal # >> with BioDiesel)... # >> # >> pictures of the process, and possible location for fuel heater, # >> and just some nice pix of the GW. # >> # >> http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/FuelSolenoid-12July2008/ # >> # >> Then, Saturday evening, I replaced the window regulator in the # >> driver's door of the '91 300D (124 series). Not nearly as easy, # >> or as much fun as the Injection pump work. ;) # >> # >> http://wagoneers.com/DieselBenz/TECH/124-series/WindowRegulator/ # >> # >> other pictures: # >> # >> http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/07-Jul-12-Snohomish-Omega/ # >> # >> john # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 17:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: Cruise Control remove the seat???? say what? to check the brake pedal???? As a mechanic's apprentice in the early '70's the old, very overweight mechanic taught me a very useful trick for getting his rather large frame under the dash to do such work... you basically sit in the seat upside down... head on the floor, back on the seat, butt against the chair back, legs over the top of the seat (if they reach. ;) Now we must all realize that the Admiral is not like the rest of us... he's not vertically challenged, but even he would fit in the seat upside down, especially if he could open the sunroof. ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Colucci B wrote: # -If the system still does not work, let's take a look under the dash on the # drivers side. (Remove the driver's seat- it will make this part of the # project so much easier. Check the wiring on the brake petal. Are all of the # connectors there, clean, and tight. Has any other wiring like trailer brake # wiring been spliced into the brake petal switch. If there is wiring that has # been added, remove it, and mark it so you can attach it later once the cruise # is working. # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 20:44:22 -0500 From: Colucci B Subject: xj: Name That Vacuum Line Greetings To The XJ World! I was changing the oil filter on the Storm Trooper this evening and what to my wandering eye should appear, but a vacuum line lying so near. OK so I am no poet, but I did find a vacuum line next to the radiator overflow tank on the 92 XJ. It is not a very long line; I followed it back to where it entered the firewall just above the AC H block. There was another vacuum line coming out of the same location. One line is black and it was connected to a vacuum break disk right there by the H block. The other line is white, and this is the one that I found not connected to anything. I has a black rubber 90 degree fitting on its end. So where does the mystery white vacuum line attach??? Until the next dimension, The Admiral ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:39:20 +0000 (GMT) From: barbierij-at-optonline.net Subject: Re: xj: Name That Vacuum Line Vaccum canister found hidden behind passenger side of bumper?----- Original Message -----From: Colucci B Date: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:39 pmSubject: xj: Name That Vacuum LineTo: XJ GROUP , john > Greetings To The XJ World!> > I was changing the oil filter on the Storm Trooper this evening > and what > to my wandering eye should appear, but a vacuum line lying so near.> > OK so I am no poet, but I did find a vacuum line next to the > radiator > overflow tank on the 92 XJ. It is not a very long line; I > followed it > back to where it entered the firewall just above the AC H block. > There > was another vacuum line coming out of the same location. One > line is > black and it was connected to a vacuum break disk right there by > the H > block. The other line is white, and this is the one that I found > not > connected to anything. I has a black rubber 90 degree fitting > on its end.> > So where does the mystery white vacuum line attach???> > > Until the next dimension,> The Admiral> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 19:35:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Name That Vacuum Line have you tried your four wheel drive system? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, Colucci B wrote: # Greetings To The XJ World! # # I was changing the oil filter on the Storm Trooper this evening and what to # my wandering eye should appear, but a vacuum line lying so near. # # OK so I am no poet, but I did find a vacuum line next to the radiator # overflow tank on the 92 XJ. It is not a very long line; I followed it back # to where it entered the firewall just above the AC H block. There was # another vacuum line coming out of the same location. One line is black and # it was connected to a vacuum break disk right there by the H block. The other # line is white, and this is the one that I found not connected to anything. I # has a black rubber 90 degree fitting on its end. # # So where does the mystery white vacuum line attach??? # # # Until the next dimension, # The Admiral # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:39:41 -0400 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: xj: Name That Vacuum Line Admiral I've got some .pdf files showing vacuum on the motor, etc. Happy to share any and all, but the list will strip 'em... Just back in from lookin' under the hood on my '92. (FSM is in the tool trailer at my parent's house) One of those vacuum lines from above the H block should loop around into a vac valve (white side toward firewall/black toward manifold) on its way over to the rear most port of the intake manifold. Into the manifold on a 90 by itself, no T's... The other one should go to a vac pot which is part of a heater valve assembly there on the right side of the engine. This one has a 90 on it. Directly above the oil filter. All the smaller heater hoses run through this contraption. I'm guessing this is the missing link... JeepNut Colucci B wrote: > Greetings To The XJ World! > > I was changing the oil filter on the Storm Trooper this evening and > what to my wandering eye should appear, but a vacuum line lying so near. > > OK so I am no poet, but I did find a vacuum line next to the radiator > overflow tank on the 92 XJ. It is not a very long line; I followed it > back to where it entered the firewall just above the AC H block. > There was another vacuum line coming out of the same location. One > line is black and it was connected to a vacuum break disk right there > by the H block. The other line is white, and this is the one that I > found not connected to anything. I has a black rubber 90 degree > fitting on its end. > > So where does the mystery white vacuum line attach??? > > > Until the next dimension, > The Admiral ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:26:03 -0400 From: JeepNut Subject: Re: xj: Re: cruise control Stefan, if you would like I can email you some .pdf files which cover this topic. Pages from a ' 93 service manual. The whole manual is nearly 15Mb in a .zip file. Can't email that but we can use a temporary large-file host, no problem. Just let me know what you might be interested in, or just the whole thing, and I will let you know how to download. JeepNut john wrote: > cruise controls are a challenge... so many safety switches, > small connectors that corrode, vacuum lines, speed sensors... > > I don't know of any on line help, but will forward this to the xj list > and if I see any answers or help will forward it to you if they don't cc you. > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, stef wrote: > > stef > > # John, > # > # I have a problem with the cruise control from my XJ it does no longer work, i try to find > # information by XJ-tech on your site but there is no article about cruise control. > # Can't find a article to fix the cruise control maybe you can make a suggestion where to look. > # > # > # > # Regards, > # Stef > # > # > # http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/Stef-NL-93/ > # > # > # > # > # The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. It may be read, copied and used only by the intended recipient. If you have received it in error, please delete in this case the e-mail and do not disclose its contents to any person. I don't accept liability for any errors, omissions, delays of receipt or viruses in the contents of this message which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. > # > # > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: cruise control if they're not copyrighted I'd be happy to host them on my server.... send them individually or as a zip, no limits on email... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 14 Jul 2008, JeepNut wrote: # Stefan, if you would like I can email you some .pdf files which cover # this topic. # Pages from a ' 93 service manual. # The whole manual is nearly 15Mb in a .zip file. # Can't email that but we can use a temporary large-file host, no problem. # Just let me know what you might be interested in, or just the whole # thing, and I will let you know how to download. # JeepNut # # john wrote: # > cruise controls are a challenge... so many safety switches, # > small connectors that corrode, vacuum lines, speed sensors... # > # > I don't know of any on line help, but will forward this to the xj list # > and if I see any answers or help will forward it to you if they don't cc you. # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, stef wrote: # > # > stef # > # > # John, # > # # > # I have a problem with the cruise control from my XJ it does no longer work, i try to find # > # information by XJ-tech on your site but there is no article about cruise control. # > # Can't find a article to fix the cruise control maybe you can make a suggestion where to look. # > # # > # # > # # > # Regards, # > # Stef # > # # > # # > # http://wagoneers.com/XJ/rigs/Stef-NL-93/ # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. 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