From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Aug 19 08:59:26 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, August 19 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2853 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: lightning Re: xj: lightning xj: omega moving back east... Re: xj: What size bearing puller? RE: xj: What size bearing puller? xj: CNG - possible alternative? XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:00:50 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: xj: lightning Wow! Some great shots there John.. love the lightening .. we get the odd bit but nothing quite as dramatic.. Steve On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM, john wrote: > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/08-Aug-17-lightning/ > > got a picture of Omega with long exposure, towards the end of the 30 second > exposure > I got the bright idea to walk into the picture holding my treo... should > have done > it earlier in the picture, but I show up by the back end of the WJ. :) > > auction ends in about 5 hrs for Omega... :( hard to part with him... but I > know > it's for the the best... getting the 6.5L TD in the Blazer dialed in for > economy... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160270351404 > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:41:29 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: lightning I can't remember the last time we had lightning... it happens maybe once a year... very unusual here... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # Wow! Some great shots there John.. love the lightening .. we get the odd bit # but nothing quite as dramatic.. # Steve # # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:43 PM, john wrote: # # > http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/08-Aug-17-lightning/ # > # > got a picture of Omega with long exposure, towards the end of the 30 second # > exposure # > I got the bright idea to walk into the picture holding my treo... should # > have done # > it earlier in the picture, but I show up by the back end of the WJ. :) # > # > auction ends in about 5 hrs for Omega... :( hard to part with him... but I # > know # > it's for the the best... getting the 6.5L TD in the Blazer dialed in for # > economy... # > # > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160270351404 # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:40:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: omega moving back east... the ebay auction ended, someone in maryland won Omega ('91 Grand Wagoneer with 6.2L Diesel)... the buyer actually contacted me weeks before the auction... they will use it as a daily driver for family. :) and they're going to use it to pull an Airstream trailer... well aware of what ownership of an FSJ is all about as well... they've done their research. Omega is a beautiful Jeep... many things I like about him... but it's funny, there are some FSJs that I've owned that immediately secured my affection... Omega never did that, so parting with him isn't that painful... SuperDawg is quite another story... That blue '89 I had was close... if the interior had been nicer on that one I would have kept it... the body was perfect... I'm going to get my carport rebuilt so I can bring SuperDawg back home... the next decision will be whether to go with a stock 4.2L drive train, a 4.7L V8 out of a WJ or go the 6.5L TD route... or just sell as a project and not continue the insanity... ;) (but then the popcorn industry would suffer... ;) of course it's been so long since I've driven the J10 I don't know if there will still be that "bond". ;) He was dismantled in 2001. Wife and I are struggling with the idea of parting with the '99 WJ... it is one of the finest Jeeps ever made... reliable, comfortable, and way more economical than a full size jeep... nicer quality than an XJ... but it runs on that stinking expensive gasoline... ;) BioDiesel/Diesel rules, gas drools... (actually gas sucks, a recent technical discussion with a fellow mechanic proved this, gas engines have vacuum, Diesels don't. :) john '99 WJ 4.7L V8 '94 Blazer 6.5L TD '91 300D 2.5L TD '47 Bantam T3-C '75 J10 hydraulic dump '67 J100 Panel '83 J10 Stepside ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://wagoneers.com SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:55:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? did you find any info on randy's site on how to do it? you could contact their tech guys via their website, they're quite helpful... looks like I'm down one jeep... omega just sold on ebay... heading over to eastern washington later this week to get the 4" exhaust system for my '94 blazer with the 6.5L TD... turns out that Heath Diesel is building a Bonneville salt flat type '94 pickup with the same engine as mine to set a world speed record... shooting for 150 mph. with a STOCK 6.5L TD... We may end up keeping the WJ... it's the best jeep we've ever had... lots of miles, but the thing is amazing... too bad it runs on gasoline. ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # heh, I was going to.. I rang a garage which replaced the snapped off rocker # post bolt in the head a few months ago.. they rang me back insisting that # I'd have to order a new hub for about 400USD.. "I have the parts fax here # in front of me bud" ... I told him I'd sort it myself ;-) I bought the # bearing and seal for 32e on ebay. # # hmm.. am thinking I might get away with a slide hammer + block of wood now.. # # Steve # # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM, john wrote: # # > you're welcome... this kind of stuff I leave to shops with big tools and # > presses... # > the labor involved is quite reasonable usually... # > # > I've done a lot of wheel bearings with blocks of wood, old sockets, big # > hammers and # > c-clamps... I prefer to let the folks with the right tools do it now. :) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # Thanks John! # > # # > # # > # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, john wrote: # > # # > # > Steve, # > # > # > # > try randy's website, he's got info and tools/kits available: # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/HowTo.aspx # > # > # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/FAQ.aspx # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # > # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # > # > # Hi, # > # > # # > # > # I'm still walking around the Jeep with tools in my hands but # > haven't # > # > changed # > # > # the rear pass wheel bearing yet... "why?" I hear you ask.. # > # > # # > # > # A) I'm nervous as I haven't done a bearing before # > # > # and # > # > # B) I haven't got a bearing puller... # > # > # # > # > # So.. having started researching them.. I discover there are many # > sizes.. # > # > so # > # > # .. # > # > # # > # > # A) which do I need for this application.. # > # > # (something like this? http://tinyurl.com/6kr5j9 ) # > # > # B) I get how the legs attach internally.. but where is the leverage # > # > coming # > # > # from? # > # > # # > # > # Thanks # > # > # Steve # > # > # # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:22:12 -0400 From: "Daugherty, Bill W (E F PR GN)" Subject: RE: xj: What size bearing puller? I have been researching compressed natural gas (CNG) as an alternative to that stinky and expensive gasoline. Have any of you guys on this message board tried it in an XJ? The closest thing I can find for a conversion kit is here.... http://ewsews.com/cngprices.html Kinda generic and pricey.... There are guesstimates that the equivalent price you are paying is $.85 per gallon of juice with this method.... Sounds great doesn't it....?? But wait ! Not so fast ! Unless you live close to a refueling station (and they are rare in most parts of the country) you need your own compressor to squeeze the puplic utility natural gas into the tanks... Figure on aroune 4-5 grand for that toy.... Still, it might make good sense in the long run..... Anybody got any experience with this stuff....??? Bill-93XJ - -----Original Message----- From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:55 PM To: xj-at-digest.net Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? did you find any info on randy's site on how to do it? you could contact their tech guys via their website, they're quite helpful... looks like I'm down one jeep... omega just sold on ebay... heading over to eastern washington later this week to get the 4" exhaust system for my '94 blazer with the 6.5L TD... turns out that Heath Diesel is building a Bonneville salt flat type '94 pickup with the same engine as mine to set a world speed record... shooting for 150 mph. with a STOCK 6.5L TD... We may end up keeping the WJ... it's the best jeep we've ever had... lots of miles, but the thing is amazing... too bad it runs on gasoline. ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # heh, I was going to.. I rang a garage which replaced the snapped off rocker # post bolt in the head a few months ago.. they rang me back insisting that # I'd have to order a new hub for about 400USD.. "I have the parts fax here # in front of me bud" ... I told him I'd sort it myself ;-) I bought the # bearing and seal for 32e on ebay. # # hmm.. am thinking I might get away with a slide hammer + block of wood now.. # # Steve # # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM, john wrote: # # > you're welcome... this kind of stuff I leave to shops with big tools and # > presses... # > the labor involved is quite reasonable usually... # > # > I've done a lot of wheel bearings with blocks of wood, old sockets, big # > hammers and # > c-clamps... I prefer to let the folks with the right tools do it now. :) # > # > john # > # > ----- # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - # > # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # Thanks John! # > # # > # # > # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, john wrote: # > # # > # > Steve, # > # > # > # > try randy's website, he's got info and tools/kits available: # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/HowTo.aspx # > # > # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/FAQ.aspx # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # > # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # > # > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - # > # > # > # > # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # > # > # > # > # Hi, # > # > # # > # > # I'm still walking around the Jeep with tools in my hands but # > haven't # > # > changed # > # > # the rear pass wheel bearing yet... "why?" I hear you ask.. # > # > # # > # > # A) I'm nervous as I haven't done a bearing before # > # > # and # > # > # B) I haven't got a bearing puller... # > # > # # > # > # So.. having started researching them.. I discover there are many # > sizes.. # > # > so # > # > # .. # > # > # # > # > # A) which do I need for this application.. # > # > # (something like this? http://tinyurl.com/6kr5j9 ) # > # > # B) I get how the legs attach internally.. but where is the leverage # > # > coming # > # > # from? # > # > # # > # > # Thanks # > # > # Steve # > # > # # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: CNG - possible alternative? keep up the research, will cc this to the fsj list... I know mr. blair has a fascination with the smelly alternative, propane... the deodorizer they put in propane is made from onions, of which I'm allergic, but as long as the propane is burnt I'm fine... might be a way of justifying keeping the '99 WJ. ;) and possibly adding a 4.7L V8 to Superdawg... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Daugherty, Bill W (E F PR GN) wrote: # I have been researching compressed natural gas (CNG) as an alternative # to that stinky and expensive gasoline. Have any of you guys on this # message board tried it in an XJ? The closest thing I can find for a # conversion kit is here.... # http://ewsews.com/cngprices.html # Kinda generic and pricey.... There are guesstimates that the equivalent # price you are paying is $.85 per gallon of juice with this method.... # Sounds great doesn't it....?? But wait ! Not so fast ! Unless you # live close to a refueling station (and they are rare in most parts of # the country) you need your own compressor to squeeze the puplic utility # natural gas into the tanks... Figure on aroune 4-5 grand for that # toy.... Still, it might make good sense in the long run..... Anybody # got any experience with this stuff....??? # # Bill-93XJ # # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-xj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-xj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of john # Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 6:55 PM # To: xj-at-digest.net # Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? # # did you find any info on randy's site on how to do it? # # you could contact their tech guys via their website, they're quite # helpful... # # looks like I'm down one jeep... omega just sold on ebay... # # heading over to eastern washington later this week to get the 4" exhaust # system # for my '94 blazer with the 6.5L TD... turns out that Heath Diesel is # building a Bonneville salt flat type '94 pickup with the same engine as # mine # to set a world speed record... shooting for 150 mph. with a STOCK 6.5L # TD... # # We may end up keeping the WJ... it's the best jeep we've ever had... # lots # of miles, but the thing is amazing... too bad it runs on gasoline. ;) # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * # * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * # http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # # # On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # # # heh, I was going to.. I rang a garage which replaced the snapped off # rocker # # post bolt in the head a few months ago.. they rang me back insisting # that # # I'd have to order a new hub for about 400USD.. "I have the parts fax # here # # in front of me bud" ... I told him I'd sort it myself ;-) I bought # the # # bearing and seal for 32e on ebay. # # # # hmm.. am thinking I might get away with a slide hammer + block of # wood now.. # # # # Steve # # # # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM, john wrote: # # # # > you're welcome... this kind of stuff I leave to shops with big # tools and # # > presses... # # > the labor involved is quite reasonable usually... # # > # # > I've done a lot of wheel bearings with blocks of wood, old sockets, # big # # > hammers and # # > c-clamps... I prefer to let the folks with the right tools do it # now. :) # # > # # > john # # > # # > ----- # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: # http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # # > # # > # # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # # > # # > # Thanks John! # # > # # # > # # # > # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, john # wrote: # # > # # # > # > Steve, # # > # > # # > # > try randy's website, he's got info and tools/kits available: # # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/HowTo.aspx # # > # > # # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/FAQ.aspx # # > # > # # > # > john # # > # > # # > # > ----- # # > # > # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # mold # # > # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: # # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ # # > # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: # http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL # # > # > # # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # - # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: # # > # > # # > # > # Hi, # # > # > # # # > # > # I'm still walking around the Jeep with tools in my hands # but # # > haven't # # > # > changed # # > # > # the rear pass wheel bearing yet... "why?" I hear you ask.. # # > # > # # # > # > # A) I'm nervous as I haven't done a bearing before # # > # > # and # # > # > # B) I haven't got a bearing puller... # # > # > # # # > # > # So.. having started researching them.. I discover there are # many # # > sizes.. # # > # > so # # > # > # .. # # > # > # # # > # > # A) which do I need for this application.. # # > # > # (something like this? http://tinyurl.com/6kr5j9 ) # # > # > # B) I get how the legs attach internally.. but where is the # leverage # # > # > coming # # > # > # from? # # > # > # # # > # > # Thanks # # > # > # Steve # # > # > # # # > # # # # ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2853 *************************