From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Aug 28 12:12:10 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Thursday, August 28 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2857 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe xj: camera systems and old jeeps... Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe xj: Diesel options - popcorn special XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:52:12 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe have you looked at the WJs? not sure it'd be the same, but it's a thought... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Jesse Barbieri wrote: # Does anybody have a front pipe for a '99 cherokee that needs a home? I have # been looking everywhere for one and it seems that there is nothing available # under $80.00 which seems a bit much for this pipe. This is the pipe that # connects the exhaust manifold to the cat. This is a $20 part for the '87-'90 # 4.0L engines. The only thing that changed was a bend. And it is a little # shorter I think. # # # Jesse. # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 08:21:03 -0400 From: "Christopher Wilson" Subject: Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe They are rather expensive. The reason would be b/c it has two collectors. I didn't know that the late model XJ's had a split header. On 8/24/08, john wrote: > > have you looked at the WJs? > > not sure it'd be the same, but it's a thought... > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * > * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Jesse Barbieri wrote: > > # Does anybody have a front pipe for a '99 cherokee that needs a home? I > have > # been looking everywhere for one and it seems that there is nothing > available > # under $80.00 which seems a bit much for this pipe. This is the pipe that > # connects the exhaust manifold to the cat. This is a $20 part for the > '87-'90 > # 4.0L engines. The only thing that changed was a bend. And it is a > little > # shorter I think. > # > # > # Jesse. > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:16:10 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: camera systems and old jeeps... my son has taken a liking to the Nikon D300 DSLR... he also thinks I should have one... I pointed out that my budget doesn't include such items, so he's thinking about having me sell the '67 J100 Panel and splitting the money with him so we can both buy the cameras... :) stay tuned... keep the popcorn popping... ;) In other news the '94 Blazer got 19.58 mpg on the last tank, which included 3 mountain passes, and hauling about 70 gallons of WVO up to arlington... still need to install the 4" exhaust system... kind of complicated now since I have the 24' trusses in the carport and need to rebuild it... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:17:38 -0400 From: "Jesse Barbieri" Subject: Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe OK, I found this on ebay which has two collectors: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-01-Jeep-Cherokee-XJ-2-piece-manifold-with-down-pipe_W0QQitemZ220272020375QQihZ012QQcategoryZ33632QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mine is like this, which has one collector: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1996-97-98-99-JEEP-WRANGLER-CHEROKEE-4-0-EXHAUST-HEADER_W0QQitemZ180280514755QQihZ008QQcategoryZ33631QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Guess I will go to the junk yard to find one. Jesse. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Wilson" To: Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:21 AM Subject: Re: xj: front pipe / down pipe > They are rather expensive. The reason would be b/c it has two collectors. > I didn't know that the late model XJ's had a split header. > > > > > On 8/24/08, john wrote: >> >> have you looked at the WJs? >> >> not sure it'd be the same, but it's a thought... >> >> john >> >> ----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> * SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL * >> * SAVE ELECTRICITY use Linux: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf * >> http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008, Jesse Barbieri wrote: >> >> # Does anybody have a front pipe for a '99 cherokee that needs a home? I >> have >> # been looking everywhere for one and it seems that there is nothing >> available >> # under $80.00 which seems a bit much for this pipe. This is the pipe >> that >> # connects the exhaust manifold to the cat. This is a $20 part for the >> '87-'90 >> # 4.0L engines. The only thing that changed was a bend. And it is a >> little >> # shorter I think. >> # >> # >> # Jesse. >> # > > __________ NOD32 3383 (20080824) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:10:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Diesel options - popcorn special today was the LAST commute of Omega ('91 GW with 6.2L Diesel) before being shipped back east... :( Believe it or not I woke up dreaming about Omega... ...almost called the ebay buyers to let them know they were going to get their check back instead of the Jeep... but I didn't. :) There is such a cool feeling about the Diesel in this FSJ. http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega I am SO going to build another one of these Diesel powered FSJs... :) Going to do this one myself and correctly... it will NOT take 8 years or even 2 years... And it WILL be my 1983 J10 Stepside. Superdawg! http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/superdawg-oct2000.jpg All the reasons for selling and getting the Blazer still make perfect sense... really... ;) The '94 Blazer with the 6.5L and all the creature comforts and refinements I was trying to build into Omega... but the Blazer is horribly BORING... and it's not a Jeep. ;) The 6.5L has a lot of aftermarket products for tuning and economy... and the prices are low because of GM induced ignorance (PMD issues mainly). The Omega project was a MAJOR success. My wife agreed it was suitable for a trip to South Dakota with the WJ leather seats, and it got 24 mpg! That, is what I consider success. A happy wife and fuel economy too! Had the '94 6.5L Blazer not surfaced I would have continued on with refinements... While Omega SHOULD have been my ultimate FSJ, it never really clicked with me... It's funny how Jeeps and Mercedes have unique "personalities" and characteristics. Out of the 24 FSJs I've owned only three have "clicked" with me: my first, the '67 Wagoneer http://wagoneers.com/fotos/johns-cars/67fsj.jpg the '81 Wagoneer Limited (Old Blue) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/OldBlue/ and finally my '83 J10 Stepside (SuperDawg). http://www.wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-83-J10-stepside/ I guess I still have "GrandWagoneerTailgateWindowPhobia"... despite Omega never having any issues... :) The 6.2L Diesel mounted on Novak mounts was the downfall... too much vibration... NEXT time... stock mounts for the engine with custom installations... like I've done when doing a swap/conversion... cheating and using pre-fab'd mounts for a gas engine is a short cut I will NOT take. ...who knows, maybe the Blazer will be the donor vehicle... keep that pop corn a poppin'. If it stops raining this weekend I'm rebuilding my carport... have the trusses and a plan... then will borrow my neighbor's flat bed trailer and haul SuperDawg home.... If all goes well he should be tucked away in the back of my carport before October... nice and dry and ready for some long term TLC. :) Next step will be the acquistion of the Diesel powertrain... so many options to consider... - - 6.5L TD/AT out of a Suburban or Pickup? - - 4bt, or even a 6bt? - - mercedes 2.5 or 3.0l TD mated to my existing T-5/NP208? - - 6.2 with a banks? Would prefer an AT but not opposed to using my existing t-5/208 or even an nv4500. Joe in Everett has a 4bt in an FSJ chassis with a Willys Pickup cab and flat bed on it... so I have a model to follow. Was reading "DieselPower" and found a kit to retrofit a Chevy with a Cummins... $399! http://www.avalancheengineering.com/new_products.html they show an M715 with one! http://www.avalancheengineering.com/m715.htm it mounts between the frame rails as a bolt in and holds the Cummins... The 4bt supposedly clears the front diff and hood... this one is interesting... Or maybe I'll put the Cummins in the Blazer and the 6.5 in Superdawg... :) In other news, it's odd, not a single serious contact about the '99 WJ! Gas prices really are hurting the sale of nice WJs. The WJ hasn't moved in a month... thinking that since I tolerate the IFS in the Blazer that a WK with the CRD would be a nice replacement for the WJ/Blazer/300D when Superdawg is done... and the prices drop to 4 digits. The two vehicle plan is holding up... current: Blazer and the Benz. future WK/CRD and the J10? we'll see... the options just keep popping.... ;) that said, enjoy your popcorn... go easy on the salt and butter so you be around to enjoy the long term entertainment, compliments of the snohomish monster carport... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2857 *************************