From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Sep 5 22:21:52 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Saturday, September 6 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2863 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? xj: Re: What size bearing puller? xj: Re: HHO scams in the news Re: xj: Re: What size bearing puller? xj: Re: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... xj: Jasper Ntl Park and Banff... road trip! XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 19:55:21 -0400 From: "Christopher Wilson" Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? Agreed, it's a 12 point socket On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Don Hansen wrote: > 12 point socket. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "john" > To: > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 7:30 PM > Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? > > > yep, external torx kind of like a socket with a lot of edges... >> >> ----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 >> SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf >> http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: >> >> # splines on the outside of the bolt head (external?) >> # >> # On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:22 PM, john wrote: >> # >> # > torx... is it external or internal, stock... >> # > >> # > john >> # > >> # > ----- >> # > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> # > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: >> http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 >> # > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf >> # > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html >> # > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> # > >> # > >> # > On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: >> # > >> # > # hmm... I might end up letting them do it yet... >> # > # I went to tackle it this evening.. so off with the wheel (can't >> believe >> # > they >> # > # put plastic chrome COVERS on the wheel bolts.. ), spent an hour >> getting >> # > the >> # > # drum off (my new slide hammer did the job!), drained the diff, I >> really >> # > # really really don't like the smell of gear oil (really!). >> # > # So, I found the little bolt that holds the shaft in the spider >> gears. >> # > Its a >> # > # 1/4" affair.. but its a splined/hex/torx type bolt head?? Agh! >> # > # Put the diff cover back on and tidied up .. frustrating that I have >> to >> # > wait >> # > # till tomorrow.. is this something that the previous owner has put >> in or >> # > is >> # > # it the standard? I was lead to believe it was an 8mm bolt head...? >> # > # >> # > # Apologies for the rambling email.. ;-) >> # > # Steve >> # > # >> # > # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:42 PM, john wrote: >> # > # >> # > # > you're welcome... this kind of stuff I leave to shops with big >> tools >> # > and >> # > # > presses... >> # > # > the labor involved is quite reasonable usually... >> # > # > >> # > # > I've done a lot of wheel bearings with blocks of wood, old >> sockets, >> # > big >> # > # > hammers and >> # > # > c-clamps... I prefer to let the folks with the right tools do it >> now. >> # > :) >> # > # > >> # > # > john >> # > # > >> # > # > ----- >> # > # > >> # > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they >> mold >> # > # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: >> # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ >> # > # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL >> # > # > >> # > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> # > # > >> # > # > >> # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: >> # > # > >> # > # > # Thanks John! >> # > # > # >> # > # > # >> # > # > # On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 6:17 PM, john >> wrote: >> # > # > # >> # > # > # > Steve, >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > try randy's website, he's got info and tools/kits available: >> # > # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/HowTo.aspx >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > http://www.ringpinion.com/FAQ.aspx >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > john >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > ----- >> # > # > # > >> # > # > >> # > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> # > # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, >> they >> # > mold >> # > # > # > http://wagoneers.com john's 6.2L GW: >> # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/Omega/ >> # > # > # > SAVE FUEL use AMSOIL Synthetics: >> http://wagoneers.com/AMSOIL >> # > # > # > >> # > # > >> # > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > On Mon, 18 Aug 2008, Stephen Rigley wrote: >> # > # > # > >> # > # > # > # Hi, >> # > # > # > # >> # > # > # > # I'm still walking around the Jeep with tools in my hands >> but >> # > # > haven't >> # > # > # > changed >> # > # > # > # the rear pass wheel bearing yet... "why?" I hear you >> ask.. >> # > # > # > # >> # > # > # > # A) I'm nervous as I haven't done a bearing before >> # > # > # > # and >> # > # > # > # B) I haven't got a bearing puller... >> # > # > # > # >> # > # > # > # So.. having started researching them.. I discover there >> are >> # > many >> # > # > sizes.. >> # > # > # > so >> # > # > # > # .. >> # > # > # > # >> # > # > # > # A) which do I need for this application.. >> # > # > # > # (something like this? http://tinyurl.com/6kr5j9 ) >> # > # > # > # B) I get how the legs attach internally.. but where is >> the >> # > leverage >> # > # > # > coming >> # > # > # > # from? >> # > # > # > # >> # > # > # > # Thanks >> # > # > # > # Steve >> # > # > # > # >> # > # > # >> # > # >> # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:36:32 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: Re: What size bearing puller? Too bad you didn't count how many points. External Torx are 6 point (AKA E-drive which is easy to remember for the '70s FSJ crowd)12 point head is just a regular 12 point socket OR possibly a triple square (heard of them, but haven't seen them in use yet) From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? splines on the outside of the bolt head (external?) _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together^Wat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 18:47:57 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: Re: HHO scams in the news What? You've never heard of Brown's gas? From: john Subject: Re: fsj: HHO scams in the news excuse me, but what the heck is HHO??? there is a water injection system available for my Diesel to help cool it after the turbo... ;) 2mpg on the 6.5L TD http://www.heathdiesel.com/P/HDP1660/ _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together^Wat home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 09:48:14 +0100 From: "Stephen Rigley" Subject: Re: xj: Re: What size bearing puller? Hi Jim, Looked more like a 12 sided, I only have 6 sided sockets in that side (shame on me). I'll pick some up at lunchtime. Steve On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Jim Blair wrote: > Too bad you didn't count how many points. External > Torx are 6 point (AKA E-drive which is easy to remember > for the '70s FSJ crowd)12 point head is just a regular 12 > point socket OR possibly a triple square (heard of them, > but haven't seen them in use yet) > > > From: "Stephen Rigley" > Subject: Re: xj: What size bearing puller? > > splines on the outside of the bolt head (external?) > _________________________________________________________________ > See how Windows Mobile brings your life together at home, work, or on the > go. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 10:25:08 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: [db] RE: Diesel thoughts... YES... this would be BETTER than a 300GD or an XJ... two problems... 1) don't have 12K Euros, or even 12K USD. ;) 2) not going to Europe after all... :( However, when the prices get under 10K USD over there, what's that, about 8K E? I might look into bringing one over... The WJ is a superb Jeep... the only slight downside is the A pillar visibility issue, which one quickly adapts to. Heading up to Jasper/BC Glacier in a few days... thinking about taking the WJ, but with BioDiesel in cans I can make a significant part of the trip without hitting refueling stations and save money for important things like hotel and food. ;) Pictures to follow. BTW, Omega is last reported on a truck heading east on I-90 in Ritzville, WA... east of Moses Lake, west of Spokane... on it's way to Maryland to the new owners. :) I got the 4" exhaust setup in my '94 Blazer and it's doing nicely... going to put a pair of leather WJ seats in tonight for the trip... also hooking up some IPF foglights... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Andreas Kreft wrote: # Am Middeweken 03 September 2008, hest Du schrieven: # # Just returned from vacation and read the news: # # > Hmm.. Diesel and 4X4... you mean.. something like a Diesel XJ? ;-) # > Steve # # What about a Diesel WJ? # # A late Diesel WJ with that 2,7 liter CDI five-banger in an acceptable # condition will cost you somewhere between 10 and 12 kilos of Euro anywhere # between France and Denmark. # # > > what is involved? # > > # > > I'll be looking for a Mercedes 300GD, have seen them advertised on the # > > web in Nederland, so I may go over to the continent to buy it, but # # You'll need one week of time. Which consists of carefully planned pleasure # time and the superordinate needs of dealing with the process of buying, # declaring and shipping a car in Germany as a foreigner. It's quite a # bueraucratic hassle, but if you really want to do it I could do some # research or even assist you during the process. # # If you get the balance right, it could be a great trip with great results. # Buy one in Passau or Muenchen and drive it up to Bremerhaven, for example. # Imagine a stock Diesel WJ that goes 0-60 in 11sec, tops out at 120 and does # 35mpg. No issues like NVH or missing gizmos (our WJ's always came fully # loaded). Final solution to all the popcorn issues, isn't it? ;-) # # Andreas # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 22:20:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Jasper Ntl Park and Banff... road trip! working on the 6.5L TD Blazer in preparation for a quick trip north to Jasper and Banff up in BC before the snow starts flying up there. :) picked up a used nikon dslr d80, hope to get some beautiful shots... Banff and Glacier and the Rockies are amazing... went through there in '84... putting the leather WJ seats in the blazer, upgrading the rear speakers and then running up to get some bioDiesel for the trip... would prefer to take the 300D, but those seats would kill our backs... also the reason I'm putting the wj seats in, the blazer seats are the best gm seats I've ever had, but my lumbar still isn't happy with them... wouldn't mind taking the WJ, but it doesn't run on biodiesel... :( plan to take off Sunday morning... picked a good time, looks like the weather will be nice for a few days, and the union folks at work are planning on taking some time off too. btw, Omega is heading east... tracking reports he's in MT heading to SLC, ultimate location is MD. when we get back I'll get back to work on the carport and drag superdawg home... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2863 *************************