From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sat Sep 13 20:53:43 2008 From: xj-digest xj-digest Sunday, September 14 2008 Volume 01 : Number 2871 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options xj: pt cruiser vs. ford focus ~55mph XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:22:01 -0400 From: "Christopher Wilson" Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options Shouldn't be ANY residual Base or Methanol in BioD if it's made by a reputable firm. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 1:29 PM, john wrote: > no, the smell is the unburned BioDiesel, it smells different than > Diesel. Unburned Diesel smells good. Biodiesel is fine once it's > burned... > biodiesel exhaust is much more pleasant than Diesel... > the chemicals used to make biodiesel is what I'm probably smelling... > > drop by, I have a can with some in it, it's not like diesel at all... > > in fact, bring a hammer... will be out building the carport. ;) > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jim Blair wrote: > > # > # The smell is called diesel! ;^) I was thinking about a Jetta turbo > diesel in the DJ but regrettably have no time to do anything (I work open to > close for the next couple weeks that are left of our good weather) Wife > hates the Ice Cream truck too. > # > # > # any Diesel Powered LHD Grand Cherokees of the WJ variety in my > # price range over there? ;) '99 - '04... > # > # we like our WJ... I think we're going to keep it... thought we were > # going to get down to two cars... but my wife won't drive the blazer > # and I'd prefer to drive the benz, but drive the blazer so she doesn't > # drive the WJ and run up a large gas bill... :) > # > # I'm not in love with the Blazer, but it does what I want it to do... > # does all of what I want... it's what I was trying to do with the Grand > # Wagoneer, it just lacks style, class and the same feel... > # > # thought about maybe a BMW 524td, but they have timing belts and > # head issues and then I'd have two nice German Diesel sedans > # that couldn't pull my trailer or get out of the drive in the winter... > :) > # > # this weekend, rebuilding the carport... > # http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/09-Sep-12-carport-rebuild/ALL.html > # > # when that's done, will put the passenger side WJ seat in the Blazer, > # then start figuring out a WVO heater setup on the Blazer to run straight > # filtered waste oil... not fond of the smell of BioDiesel before it's > # burned, not sure what it is I'm smelling, methanol or lye or what.... ;) > # > # john > # ----- > # _________________________________________________________________ > # Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie. > # > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 11:34:59 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options it's home made in my buddy's barn... :) he filters it well, never had an issue with filters clogging, but power isn't always there... the oil we're getting has degraded because of prices... many resturants have shifted to lower costs oils... reducing our giddyup a bit. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Christopher Wilson wrote: # Shouldn't be ANY residual Base or Methanol in BioD if it's made by a # reputable firm. # # On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 1:29 PM, john wrote: # # > no, the smell is the unburned BioDiesel, it smells different than # > Diesel. Unburned Diesel smells good. Biodiesel is fine once it's # > burned... # > biodiesel exhaust is much more pleasant than Diesel... # > the chemicals used to make biodiesel is what I'm probably smelling... # > # > drop by, I have a can with some in it, it's not like diesel at all... # > # > in fact, bring a hammer... will be out building the carport. ;) # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # # > # The smell is called diesel! ;^) I was thinking about a Jetta turbo # > diesel in the DJ but regrettably have no time to do anything (I work open to # > close for the next couple weeks that are left of our good weather) Wife # > hates the Ice Cream truck too. # > # # > # # > # any Diesel Powered LHD Grand Cherokees of the WJ variety in my # > # price range over there? ;) '99 - '04... # > # # > # we like our WJ... I think we're going to keep it... thought we were # > # going to get down to two cars... but my wife won't drive the blazer # > # and I'd prefer to drive the benz, but drive the blazer so she doesn't # > # drive the WJ and run up a large gas bill... :) # > # # > # I'm not in love with the Blazer, but it does what I want it to do... # > # does all of what I want... it's what I was trying to do with the Grand # > # Wagoneer, it just lacks style, class and the same feel... # > # # > # thought about maybe a BMW 524td, but they have timing belts and # > # head issues and then I'd have two nice German Diesel sedans # > # that couldn't pull my trailer or get out of the drive in the winter... # > :) # > # # > # this weekend, rebuilding the carport... # > # http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/09-Sep-12-carport-rebuild/ALL.html # > # # > # when that's done, will put the passenger side WJ seat in the Blazer, # > # then start figuring out a WVO heater setup on the Blazer to run straight # > # filtered waste oil... not fond of the smell of BioDiesel before it's # > # burned, not sure what it is I'm smelling, methanol or lye or what.... ;) # > # # > # john # > # ----- # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie. # > # # > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:46:12 -0400 From: "Christopher Wilson" Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options He just needs to wash better, I'd bet. On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM, john wrote: > it's home made in my buddy's barn... :) > > he filters it well, never had an issue with filters clogging, but > power isn't always there... the oil we're getting has degraded > because of prices... many resturants have shifted to lower costs > oils... reducing our giddyup a bit. > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Christopher Wilson wrote: > > # Shouldn't be ANY residual Base or Methanol in BioD if it's made by a > # reputable firm. > # > # On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 1:29 PM, john wrote: > # > # > no, the smell is the unburned BioDiesel, it smells different than > # > Diesel. Unburned Diesel smells good. Biodiesel is fine once it's > # > burned... > # > biodiesel exhaust is much more pleasant than Diesel... > # > the chemicals used to make biodiesel is what I'm probably smelling... > # > > # > drop by, I have a can with some in it, it's not like diesel at all... > # > > # > in fact, bring a hammer... will be out building the carport. ;) > # > > # > ----- > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: > http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > # > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf > # > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > # > > # > > # > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jim Blair wrote: > # > > # > # > # > # The smell is called diesel! ;^) I was thinking about a Jetta turbo > # > diesel in the DJ but regrettably have no time to do anything (I work > open to > # > close for the next couple weeks that are left of our good weather) > Wife > # > hates the Ice Cream truck too. > # > # > # > # > # > # any Diesel Powered LHD Grand Cherokees of the WJ variety in my > # > # price range over there? ;) '99 - '04... > # > # > # > # we like our WJ... I think we're going to keep it... thought we were > # > # going to get down to two cars... but my wife won't drive the blazer > # > # and I'd prefer to drive the benz, but drive the blazer so she > doesn't > # > # drive the WJ and run up a large gas bill... :) > # > # > # > # I'm not in love with the Blazer, but it does what I want it to > do... > # > # does all of what I want... it's what I was trying to do with the > Grand > # > # Wagoneer, it just lacks style, class and the same feel... > # > # > # > # thought about maybe a BMW 524td, but they have timing belts and > # > # head issues and then I'd have two nice German Diesel sedans > # > # that couldn't pull my trailer or get out of the drive in the > winter... > # > :) > # > # > # > # this weekend, rebuilding the carport... > # > # http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/09-Sep-12-carport-rebuild/ALL.html > # > # > # > # when that's done, will put the passenger side WJ seat in the > Blazer, > # > # then start figuring out a WVO heater setup on the Blazer to run > straight > # > # filtered waste oil... not fond of the smell of BioDiesel before > it's > # > # burned, not sure what it is I'm smelling, methanol or lye or > what.... ;) > # > # > # > # john > # > # ----- > # > # _________________________________________________________________ > # > # Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from > Jamie. > # > # > # > > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 > < > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns%21550F681DAD532637%215295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 > > > # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: Diesel options most likely... but it works... :) I'm going to setup a SVO operation and just burn it directly after filtering. :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Christopher Wilson wrote: # He just needs to wash better, I'd bet. # # On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 2:34 PM, john wrote: # # > it's home made in my buddy's barn... :) # > # > he filters it well, never had an issue with filters clogging, but # > power isn't always there... the oil we're getting has degraded # > because of prices... many resturants have shifted to lower costs # > oils... reducing our giddyup a bit. # > # > john # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Christopher Wilson wrote: # > # > # Shouldn't be ANY residual Base or Methanol in BioD if it's made by a # > # reputable firm. # > # # > # On Sat, Sep 13, 2008 at 1:29 PM, john wrote: # > # # > # > no, the smell is the unburned BioDiesel, it smells different than # > # > Diesel. Unburned Diesel smells good. Biodiesel is fine once it's # > # > burned... # > # > biodiesel exhaust is much more pleasant than Diesel... # > # > the chemicals used to make biodiesel is what I'm probably smelling... # > # > # > # > drop by, I have a can with some in it, it's not like diesel at all... # > # > # > # > in fact, bring a hammer... will be out building the carport. ;) # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > SAVE fuel: use synthetics: # > http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > # > SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf # > # > http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- # > # > # > # > # > # > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008, Jim Blair wrote: # > # > # > # > # # > # > # The smell is called diesel! ;^) I was thinking about a Jetta turbo # > # > diesel in the DJ but regrettably have no time to do anything (I work # > open to # > # > close for the next couple weeks that are left of our good weather) # > Wife # > # > hates the Ice Cream truck too. # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # any Diesel Powered LHD Grand Cherokees of the WJ variety in my # > # > # price range over there? ;) '99 - '04... # > # > # # > # > # we like our WJ... I think we're going to keep it... thought we were # > # > # going to get down to two cars... but my wife won't drive the blazer # > # > # and I'd prefer to drive the benz, but drive the blazer so she # > doesn't # > # > # drive the WJ and run up a large gas bill... :) # > # > # # > # > # I'm not in love with the Blazer, but it does what I want it to # > do... # > # > # does all of what I want... it's what I was trying to do with the # > Grand # > # > # Wagoneer, it just lacks style, class and the same feel... # > # > # # > # > # thought about maybe a BMW 524td, but they have timing belts and # > # > # head issues and then I'd have two nice German Diesel sedans # > # > # that couldn't pull my trailer or get out of the drive in the # > winter... # > # > :) # > # > # # > # > # this weekend, rebuilding the carport... # > # > # http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/09-Sep-12-carport-rebuild/ALL.html # > # > # # > # > # when that's done, will put the passenger side WJ seat in the # > Blazer, # > # > # then start figuring out a WVO heater setup on the Blazer to run # > straight # > # > # filtered waste oil... not fond of the smell of BioDiesel before # > it's # > # > # burned, not sure what it is I'm smelling, methanol or lye or # > what.... ;) # > # > # # > # > # john # > # > # ----- # > # > # _________________________________________________________________ # > # > # Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from # > Jamie. # > # > # # > # > # > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 # > < # > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns%21550F681DAD532637%215295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 # > > # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: pt cruiser vs. ford focus ~55mph was heading up to get lumber for the carport project and encountered a detour... parked the truck and walked down... this happened right by the road where I pulled the 18 wheeler out of the snow in '96. Not necessarily a bad stretch of highway... both drivers were air lifted... no one really knows what happened, no witnesses... my guess is the pt cruiser was southbound up hill and the silver focus was northbound, downhill, crossed over and hit the red car... based on what I could see... no skidmarks... http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/09-Sep-13-SR9-crash-n-lumber-for-carport/ http://wagoneers.com/fotos/2008/09-Sep-13-SR9-crash-n-lumber-for-carport/Crash.html looking for the article on the local paper website, I was there with their photographer... (he had a Canon EOS, my son had my Nikon so I was using the Lumix FZ50). http://heraldnet.com/section/NEWS john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold SAVE fuel: use synthetics: http://www.AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 SAVE power: use LINUX: http://johnmeister.com/tmcp.pdf http://wagoneers.com http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2871 *************************