From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Mar 8 21:45:46 2009 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, March 9 2009 Volume 01 : Number 2968 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: snohomish monster carport open house xj: need brake help Re: xj: need brake help Re: xj: snohomish monster carport open house xj: Howling Re: xj: need brake help Re: xj: snohomish monster carport open house Re: xj: Howling Re: xj: Howling xj: Re: Old Man Car Manual Re: xj: Howling Re: xj: Howling Re: xj: Howling XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: snohomish monster carport open house will be out in my shop working this afternoon... locals are welcome to drop by and check out the current fleet... a friend is bringing his gas powered benz over for some work, I'll be out working on my cj-10a if you want to come by and check it out, or even operate some wrenches come on down... drive way is clear... my wife just took the 300D out without trouble... ;) if it does snow more (unlikely since it's sunny) I've got the WJ here for extractions... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:55:42 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: xj: need brake help the left brake is hanging, the wheel cylinder is NOT leaking and not frozen, but the shoes aren't retracting properly... http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Mar_08_brakes_bumper/tug-brakes/ anyone see an issue? jim, or jon, any chance of stopping by and taking a look? working on a custom rear bumper from the remains, http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Mar_08_brakes_bumper/tug-bumper/ john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:30:49 +0000 (GMT) From: barbierij-at-optonline.net Subject: Re: xj: need brake help John, Why does the right side have a new cylinder? I know you said it is not leaking and not frozen, but there could be a problem with the flow of the brake fluid inside it. Jesse. - ----- Original Message ----- From: diesel john Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 7:45 pm Subject: xj: need brake help To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > the left brake is hanging, the wheel cylinder is NOT leaking > and not frozen, but the shoes aren't retracting properly... > > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986- > CJ10A/2009_Mar_08_brakes_bumper/tug-brakes/ > > anyone see an issue? jim, or jon, any chance of stopping by and > taking a look? > > working on a custom rear bumper from the remains, > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986- > CJ10A/2009_Mar_08_brakes_bumper/tug-bumper/ > > > john > > > > ----- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Jesse Barbieri The Computer Works (518) 755-9625 Rosendale, NY 12472 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:33:11 +0000 (GMT) From: barbierij-at-optonline.net Subject: Re: xj: snohomish monster carport open house John, I would love to stop by but unfortunatelly I am on the other side of the country. Jesse. - ----- Original Message ----- From: john Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:17 pm Subject: xj: snohomish monster carport open house To: undisclosed-recipients: ; > will be out in my shop working this afternoon... locals are welcome > to drop by and check out the current fleet... > > a friend is bringing his gas powered benz over for some work, > I'll be out working on my cj-10a if you want to come by and > check it out, or even operate some wrenches come on down... > > drive way is clear... my wife just took the 300D out without > trouble... ;) > if it does snow more (unlikely since it's sunny) I've got the WJ here > for extractions... :) > > john > > > ----- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Jesse Barbieri The Computer Works (518) 755-9625 Rosendale, NY 12472 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 03:36:13 +0000 (GMT) From: barbierij-at-optonline.net Subject: xj: Howling I started the '87 after sitting for about 9 months. It has a howling sound coming from maybe the water pump? I actually think it used to do this before. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlBraC8XzA Jesse Barbieri The Computer Works (518) 755-9625 Rosendale, NY 12472 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:53:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: need brake help the right side had a bad cylinder, they replaced it... left side was ok ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: # John, # # Why does the right side have a new cylinder? I know you said it is not leaking and not frozen, but there could be a problem with the flow of the brake fluid inside it. # # # Jesse. # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: diesel john # Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 7:45 pm # Subject: xj: need brake help # To: undisclosed-recipients: ; # # > the left brake is hanging, the wheel cylinder is NOT leaking # > and not frozen, but the shoes aren't retracting properly... # > # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986- # > CJ10A/2009_Mar_08_brakes_bumper/tug-brakes/ # > # > anyone see an issue? jim, or jon, any chance of stopping by and # > taking a look? # > # > working on a custom rear bumper from the remains, # > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986- # > CJ10A/2009_Mar_08_brakes_bumper/tug-bumper/ # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ----------------------------------------------------------------- # > ------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ----------------------------------------------------------------- # > ------- # > # # Jesse Barbieri # The Computer Works # (518) 755-9625 # Rosendale, NY 12472 # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:54:05 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: snohomish monster carport open house well, if you're ever on this coast... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: # John, # # I would love to stop by but unfortunatelly I am on the other side of the country. # # Jesse. # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: john # Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 3:17 pm # Subject: xj: snohomish monster carport open house # To: undisclosed-recipients: ; # # > will be out in my shop working this afternoon... locals are welcome # > to drop by and check out the current fleet... # > # > a friend is bringing his gas powered benz over for some work, # > I'll be out working on my cj-10a if you want to come by and # > check it out, or even operate some wrenches come on down... # > # > drive way is clear... my wife just took the 300D out without # > trouble... ;) # > if it does snow more (unlikely since it's sunny) I've got the WJ here # > for extractions... :) # > # > john # > # > # > ----- # > ----------------------------------------------------------------- # > ------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ----------------------------------------------------------------- # > ------- # > # # Jesse Barbieri # The Computer Works # (518) 755-9625 # Rosendale, NY 12472 # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Howling have you accounted for all the neighborhood cats? (haven't listened to the video yet... just starting the systematic analysis... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: # I started the '87 after sitting for about 9 months. It has a howling sound coming from maybe the water pump? I actually think it used to do this before. # # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlBraC8XzA # # # # # Jesse Barbieri # The Computer Works # (518) 755-9625 # Rosendale, NY 12472 # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:59:18 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Howling could be the idler pulley... there's a number of issues in that engine... I hear a slight knock, lifter noise... exhaust leak... that was painful... my Diesels sound better... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: # I started the '87 after sitting for about 9 months. It has a howling sound coming from maybe the water pump? I actually think it used to do this before. # # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlBraC8XzA # # # # # Jesse Barbieri # The Computer Works # (518) 755-9625 # Rosendale, NY 12472 # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:09:51 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: Old Man Car Manual http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/ interesting... it's down for maintenance, but looks promising... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 8 Mar 2009, David Ashby wrote: # John, # # # # I just ran across this site while doing some research on the Quadrajet (in case the other engine buyer doesn't need it) # and the guy that wants the carb. wants to know the cfm rating: # # http://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/ # # I haven't checked out many links yet, but it looks interesting. # # Dave # # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:24:24 +0000 (GMT) From: barbierij-at-optonline.net Subject: Re: xj: Howling This is the engine that went from boston, ma to copake, ny (250+ miles) with < little oil. That was 7 years ago. Unfortunatelly the speedometer cable broke 5 years ago, but I think the last time I checked it said around 260k. So I imagine it is way way over 300k. I was not there when my brother came home, but they said the engine sounded horrible. - ----- Original Message ----- From: john Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:48 pm Subject: Re: xj: Howling To: xj-at-digest.net > could be the idler pulley... > > there's a number of issues in that engine... I hear a slight knock, > lifter noise... exhaust leak... > > that was painful... > > my Diesels sound better... > > john > > > > > ----- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: > > # I started the '87 after sitting for about 9 months. It has a > howling sound coming from maybe the water pump? I actually > think it used to do this before. > # > # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlBraC8XzA > # > # > # > # > # Jesse Barbieri > # The Computer Works > # (518) 755-9625 > # Rosendale, NY 12472 > # > Jesse Barbieri The Computer Works (518) 755-9625 Rosendale, NY 12472 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:37:24 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Howling that it still runs is a testimony to how good the 4.0s are. :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: # This is the engine that went from boston, ma to copake, ny (250+ miles) with < little oil. That was 7 years ago. Unfortunatelly the speedometer cable broke 5 years ago, but I think the last time I checked it said around 260k. So I imagine it is way way over 300k. # # I was not there when my brother came home, but they said the engine sounded horrible. # # ----- Original Message ----- # From: john # Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:48 pm # Subject: Re: xj: Howling # To: xj-at-digest.net # # > could be the idler pulley... # > # > there's a number of issues in that engine... I hear a slight knock, # > lifter noise... exhaust leak... # > # > that was painful... # > # > my Diesels sound better... # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > ----------------------------------------------------------------- # > ------- # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ----------------------------------------------------------------- # > ------- # > # > # > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: # > # > # I started the '87 after sitting for about 9 months. It has a # > howling sound coming from maybe the water pump? I actually # > think it used to do this before. # > # # > # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlBraC8XzA # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # Jesse Barbieri # > # The Computer Works # > # (518) 755-9625 # > # Rosendale, NY 12472 # > # # > # # Jesse Barbieri # The Computer Works # (518) 755-9625 # Rosendale, NY 12472 # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 04:34:31 +0000 (GMT) From: barbierij-at-optonline.net Subject: Re: xj: Howling Plus it will spin both 33x14.50s on dry pavement. Of course, it will only chirp them. And the air conditioner cannot be on while doing so. Oh yea, and it is powerful enough to drop the rear driveshaft. I am seriously considering selling it, but if I keep it I will definitely drop a newer engine in it. - ----- Original Message ----- From: john Date: Monday, March 9, 2009 12:26 am Subject: Re: xj: Howling To: xj-at-digest.net > that it still runs is a testimony to how good the 4.0s are. :) > > > > ----- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > > > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: > > # This is the engine that went from boston, ma to copake, ny > (250+ miles) with < little oil. That was 7 years ago. > Unfortunatelly the speedometer cable broke 5 years ago, but I > think the last time I checked it said around 260k. So I imagine > it is way way over 300k. > # > # I was not there when my brother came home, but they said the > engine sounded horrible. > # > # ----- Original Message ----- > # From: john > # Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:48 pm > # Subject: Re: xj: Howling > # To: xj-at-digest.net > # > # > could be the idler pulley... > # > > # > there's a number of issues in that engine... I hear a > slight knock, > # > lifter noise... exhaust leak... > # > > # > that was painful... > # > > # > my Diesels sound better... > # > > # > john > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > # > ------- > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, > they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > # > ------- > # > > # > > # > On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, barbierij-at-optonline.net wrote: > # > > # > # I started the '87 after sitting for about 9 months. It > has a > # > howling sound coming from maybe the water pump? I actually > # > think it used to do this before. > # > # > # > # http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlBraC8XzA > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # Jesse Barbieri > # > # The Computer Works > # > # (518) 755-9625 > # > # Rosendale, NY 12472 > # > # > # > > # > # Jesse Barbieri > # The Computer Works > # (518) 755-9625 > # Rosendale, NY 12472 > # > Jesse Barbieri The Computer Works (518) 755-9625 Rosendale, NY 12472 ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2968 *************************