From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Apr 8 11:02:59 2009 From: xj-digest xj-digest Wednesday, April 8 2009 Volume 01 : Number 2983 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: anyone in Seattle need a TF727/NP229? Re: xj: Re: Laws of Ultimate Reality Re: xj: Re: Laws of Ultimate Reality xj: np229 selectrac RE: xj: np229 selectrac Hijacking with a somewhat related topic xj: fuel weights (was bus weights) XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 15:19:58 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: anyone in Seattle need a TF727/NP229? I found a trans/xfr case out of an '80 Wagoneer... I was hoping for an NP219 or NP208, but it's a NP229. let me know... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 21:19:58 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: xj: Re: Laws of Ultimate Reality You noticed I didn't get very far under it? Besides, I didn't own it (mind you I didn't own that Honda that fell on me either) Napa sells some new stuff intended for Bio fuel burners that is supposed to clear the crud out of your system (called clear something) After work last night I went to my cabin with the Chev, passing miles of traffic in the opposite direction and dropped the bumpers off. Then something good happened! When I came out, traffic was still backed up from Monroe past the turn to Index (don't know how much farther up than that, but around the mountain at least) I decided to check to see in the back road through Index to Gold Bar was open (it was closed last week due to slides) and it was! Shaved HOURS off my trip back! I did get a bad feeling on saturday that something was wrong. Found out after I got back that my daughter-in-law had a stroke about that time (I had tried calling and got no answer. I had just visited them thursday and everything was fine) She's going to be okay, but they found more clots they have to zap today. From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: Laws of Ultimate Reality rofl... jim, you should have known... Sgt. Slow was green inside the cab, surely you saw it... wow, we narrowly averted a major disaster, you were underneath that thing too... whew... that was close. ;) just got back from a veggie oil run... topped off the tank, looks like it is getting better than 20 mpg... :) _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda tes1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:01:26 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: Laws of Ultimate Reality on the north side of 2? you went by way of reiter road? sorry to hear about your daughter-in-law... yes, I did notice you didn't get very far under it... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 6 Apr 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # You noticed I didn't get very far under it? Besides, I didn't own it (mind you # I didn't own that Honda that fell on me either) Napa sells some new stuff # intended for Bio fuel burners that is supposed to clear the crud out of your # system (called clear something) # After work last night I went to my cabin with the Chev, passing miles of # traffic in the opposite direction and dropped the bumpers off. Then something # good happened! When I came out, traffic was still backed up from Monroe past # the turn to Index (don't know how much farther up than that, but around the # mountain at least) I decided to check to see in the back road through Index to # Gold Bar was open (it was closed last week due to slides) and it was! # Shaved HOURS off my trip back! # # I did get a bad feeling on saturday that something was wrong. Found out # after I got back that my daughter-in-law had a stroke about that time (I had # tried calling and got no answer. I had just visited them thursday and # everything was fine) She's going to be okay, but they found more clots they # have to zap today. # # # From: john # Subject: Re: xj: Re: Laws of Ultimate Reality # # rofl... # # jim, you should have known... Sgt. Slow was green inside the # cab, surely you saw it... wow, we narrowly averted a major disaster, # you were underneath that thing too... whew... that was close. ;) # # just got back from a veggie oil run... topped off the tank, looks # like it is getting better than 20 mpg... :) # _________________________________________________________________ # Rediscover Hotmail.: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. # http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Upda # tes1_042009 # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:56:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: np229 selectrac the first year of the NP229 was 1983. so that '80 Wagoneer with 727/np229 is obviously not stock... more reasons to avoid it. :) (parts rig anyway...) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 15:30:21 -0500 From: Allen Zylstra Subject: RE: xj: np229 selectrac Hijacking with a somewhat related topic Speaking of a selectrac. The real seal on my 42RE(96 ZJ) is leaking. Has been for awhile now.(2 years) How much of a task is it to pull the transfer case to replace that seal so I don't have to keep adding the $8/qt mopar ATF+4. I am adding a qt about once a month now. Allen > Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2009 09:56:06 -0700 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net > Subject: xj: np229 selectrac > > the first year of the NP229 was 1983. > > so that '80 Wagoneer with 727/np229 is obviously not stock... > > more reasons to avoid it. :) (parts rig anyway...) > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Rediscover Hotmail.: Get e-mail storage that grows with you. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Stor age1_042009 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 11:02:23 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: xj: fuel weights (was bus weights) Dan, Interesting info on bus weight and fuel weights, the weight of Diesel seemed high so I looked it up... they rounded up quite a bit, or expect a lot of water in their fuel. ;) Diesel about 7.1 lbs. varies with temp, 7.15lbs also listed (not 8lbs) water is about 8.34 lbs weight of biodiesel is generally reported to be 7.34 pounds per gallon veggie oil: Crude corn oil weighs 7.7 lbs per gallon gasoline is about 6.15 lbs (6.0-6.3lbs) (all weights vary by temperature due to density, or weight by volume) - ----------- A 55 gallon drum of WVO will weigh about 8lbs per gallon (considering food debris) 440lbs of gunk and about 44lbs for the steel drum or 484 lbs. That's what I'm hanging off the barrel lift on my rear hitch, plus the lift itself that probably weighs about 90lbs... for a total of 528 lbs. (chuck, we don't want to drop one of those on our foot... ;) When I get my BioDiesel it's in a plastic 20 gallon barrel... 146.8 lbs of fuel and maybe 10lbs for that barrel... around 155lbs... and both chuck and I have dropped that on our foot... not recommended on concrete. :) http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/2009_Apr_05_tug-w-barrel-lift/ I bought a used Grand Wagoneer hitch and installed it last night, left the mickey mouse c-channel rear step bumper in place with reciever hitch. :) Have pictures in the camera sitting in the console of the tug sitting in the carport... :) Went out to start the tug this morning and it just clicked... new battery, new cable... heading out to get a new starter solenoid at lunch time, and a new ground cable too... and a yard of compost... (drove the WJ with the J10 trailer in tow...) Solenoid is around $48.00. New starter retails for $679 or around $480 reman'd, estimates for rebuild only $180. The SD33 uses a Hitachi S13-14 starter, called Forklifts NW they list a Nissan part number of 23300-Z5515, list price $670.29. Wish me luck on the new ground cable and solenoid... :) john - ----------- ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 8 Apr 2009, Dan Black wrote: # asked about the weight of busses. # http://www.cyride.com/about/activefleet.html # =============================================================================== # Subject: Re: bus weight # Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2009 09:27:13 -0500 # The CyRide fleet consists primarily of 40' buses with a few 35' buses and # minibuses. Bus manufacturers give a dry and wet weight. This may sound # silly, but a bus engine can hold 11 gallons of oil or more and the fuel # tanks can hold up to 125 gallons of diesel. The weight of diesel is # approximately 8lbs per gallon, so the difference between a full tank of # fuel and empty is 1000 lbs alone. For your question, we'll assume wet # weight. # The newest transit buses in the fleet weigh 33-35,000 lbs wet. Passengers # are assumed to weigh 180 lbs and the buses seat 36 +/- 4. We frequently # have as many passengers standing as seated. Figure a bus holds around 60 # people at 180 lbs or 10,800. So a fully loaded transit bus on campus can # weigh as much as 45,800. # # -------------- Dan Black ------------------------- dan-at-black.org -------------- # ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #2983 *************************