From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Sun Sep 20 08:46:54 2009 From: xj-digest xj-digest Sunday, September 20 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3077 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: RE: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 Re: xj: RE: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 xj: Main vents not working XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 who makes those tires for 4wheel parts? ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Ed Kummel wrote: # I enjoy a bargain and as such, I pulled the trigger on some Pro-comp tires at # an online off-road shop. They had a bargain. Buy 3, get the 4th free with free # shipping. So for about $350 I got 4 tires delivered to my house. Not bad. They # drive nice too... quieter than my BFGs and much better traction too! In fact, # once my BFGs wear down enough, I plan to replace them with a new set of # Pro-comp tires. # Ed # web/gadget guru # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # By Richard Feynman, Physicist, Nobel winner (1918-1988) # # # "There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's # only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call # them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." # # --- On Thu, 9/17/09, john wrote: # # From: john # Subject: xj: RE: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 # To: "Jim Blair" # Cc: "xj" , "local Jeep list" # Date: Thursday, September 17, 2009, 3:42 PM # # that tread pattern clearly needs siping... # # and if I have my data correct, Toyo is who makes les schwab tires... # # all tires are NOT the same... they vary drastically and sadly even # within a mfr. I've learned that some models are terrible, while # others are good. The lists have helped me find the bridgestone revo a/t's, # they are fantastic... never would have even considered them otherwise. # # john # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # # # # # I guess no-one told you that except for their house brand EVERYONE now # carries pretty much the same tires? It's like comparing '80s Chev and Pontiac. # Everything is the same under the cosmetics and nameplate now. Les Schwab's # own tires have come a long ways from what they were. The tires don't need # siping as they come factory with it now. # # # # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # # # # # # # # # > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:32:25 -0700 # # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # # > CC: xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net # # > Subject: RE: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 # # > # # > understand, and I agree with your size selection for the OD you're # shooting for. # # > # # > I am NOT a big fan of wide treads on wet roads, or on snow... Contact # Pressure # # > is very important... # # > # # > I'd be very leery of les schwab tires though... try shopping at discount # tire, # # > not that les schwab aren't good stores, they have superb service, but # their # # > tires are, in my experince, of lesser quality... only tire I've ever # blown out # # > in 40 years of driving was a les schwab tire... # # > # # > john # # > # # > # # > # # > ----- # # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # > # # > # # > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # # > # # > # I might look at other tires, but these are currently my only choice in # this # # > # size of tire. # # > # # # > # Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 # # > # # # > # # # > # # # > # # # > # > Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:26:43 -0700 # # > # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # # > # > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com # # > # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net # # > # > Subject: Re: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 # # > # > # # > # > that tread pattern might be a little noisier, but looks # # > # > like it'll have better traction in snow... I would highly # # > # > recommend getting those siped though. # # > # > # # > # > I gave up on BFG. non-ko BFG ATs needed to be siped for # # > # > wet road... the ko series seem a lot harsher in ride quality... # # > # > # # > # > I am very happy with Bridgestones... have the Revo A/T's on my WJ # # > # > and the Blizzaks on my cj-10a... my benz has yokohoma yk520 or # something # # > # > like that, also quite good. # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > ----- # # > # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they # mold # # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # http://creationwiki.org # # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com # http://fotomeister.us # # > # > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # # > # > # # > # > # I've been running the BFG 33/9.50/15s for the past 2 years and # while they # # > # were # # > # > # okay, I was a little disappointed with the winter traction. (but # my # # > # Comanche # # > # > # and other pick up are both pretty light in the back end and # # > # > # # # > # # 2wd)http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/images/ts-dl/tires/large/all-terrain-t-a-k # # > # > # o.jpg # # > # > # # # > # > # I FINALLY found the same style tires I had before in 33/9.50/15 # # > # > # http://www.lesschwab.com/tires/light_truck/large/sxtmt_lg.jpg # # > # > # # # > # > # # # > # > # They appear to be identical to the Safari MSRs I had before that # lasted # # > # me # # > # > # nearly 70,000 miles second hand and got me in and out of where my # cabin # # > # is in # # > # > # the dead of winter. These ones were made by Dean tire (Les # Schwab # # > # carries # # > # > # them) which I've had good luck with in the past. # # > # > # Main thing I like is the skinny tire gets better fuel economy # than # # > # the # # > # > # wider ones (almost 20 mpg with the skinny ones, but it dropped to # 14 mpg # # > # hwy # # > # > # with the bigger ones) # # > # > # # _________________________________________________________________ # # > # > # Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. # # > # > # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222984/direct/01/ # # > # > # # # > # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ # # > # # # # # _________________________________________________________________ # # Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. # # http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222985/direct/01/ # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:42:03 -0700 From: Kevin Subject: Re: xj: RE: fsj: My new tires 33/9.50/15 They're made either by cooper or general, can't remember. I've seen them on the trail and they seem to hold up fine. A common complaint I hear about them is that they are very difficult to keep a balance on as they wear. This may be just with the larger sizes, but something to keep in mind. On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 01:36:35PM -0700, john wrote: > who makes those tires for 4wheel parts? > > On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Ed Kummel wrote: > > # I enjoy a bargain and as such, I pulled the trigger on some Pro-comp tires at > # an online off-road shop. They had a bargain. Buy 3, get the 4th free with free > # shipping. So for about $350 I got 4 tires delivered to my house. Not bad. They > # drive nice too... quieter than my BFGs and much better traction too! In fact, > # once my BFGs wear down enough, I plan to replace them with a new set of > # Pro-comp tires. > # Ed > # web/gadget guru ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 11:42:06 -0400 From: Marc Z Subject: xj: Main vents not working Hello Everyone, On my '89 XJ Laredo, the main vents no longer work, as in no air coming out from them. Is this wire controlled or vacuum controlled? I'm wondering if I incorrectly hooked up the connections at the vacuum tank after my camo paint job.... I did test the 4 wheel drive lever as the vacuum drives the front axle linkage and that works fine. Any ideas? Thanks, Marc Z in NC. ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3077 *************************