From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Oct 12 10:56:14 2009 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, October 12 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3090 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) xj: mobile welder for cheap... Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) xj: fsj: FWIW - Head Gasket Leaks / Seepage on Jeep 4.0L Engines tech info (fwd) xj: Re: FW: THE BARN (the one with 180 cars in Portugual...) XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) wow. that's beautiful... what's interesting is last weekend I bought an engine with about the same mileage from a guy from Oregon out of the same year scout... using it in my '83 J10 Stepside. I wonder what the reserve is... I've got a T19/D300 I'm selling to a friend in the bay area... just need to figure out how to wrap it and send it... :) saw this on the auction: With only 6,497 Scouts produced with the SD33T Nissan Turbo Diesel, this truck is rare by production numbers... Didn't know that. thanx David, nice find... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: # Thought of you when I saw this.... # # No connection to seller and know nothing of the truck. # # # http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-of-a-kind-Diesel-Truck-with-Veggie-Oil-conversion_W0QQitemZ330366465487QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb6035cf # # or just ebay item 330366465487 # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 16:57:43 -0500 From: David Bierschank Subject: Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) If I recall the 1980 was the only year they offered the Scout with the Diesel. It also happen to be the last year of production for the Scouts. I did not know how many were made but not many. I have a the "international red book" at home and can check the production numbers, but I am sure his number is very close it not correct. I have been to a lot of IH Scout shows and only seen a few of the Diesel.... I know they are hard to find for sure. Anyway, I knew you just picked up the SD33T so you might find this interesting. I may just bring you to the IH side of things yet. David On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, john wrote: > wow. that's beautiful... > > what's interesting is last weekend I bought an engine with about the same > mileage > from a guy from Oregon out of the same year scout... using it in my '83 > J10 Stepside. > > I wonder what the reserve is... I've got a T19/D300 I'm selling to a friend > in the > bay area... just need to figure out how to wrap it and send it... :) > > > saw this on the auction: > With only 6,497 Scouts produced with the SD33T Nissan Turbo Diesel, > this truck is rare by production numbers... Didn't know that. > > > thanx David, nice find... > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: > > # Thought of you when I saw this.... > # > # No connection to seller and know nothing of the truck. > # > # > # > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-of-a-kind-Diesel-Truck-with-Veggie-Oil-conversion_W0QQitemZ330366465487QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb6035cf > # > # or just ebay item 330366465487 > # > # > - -- David Bierschank okc67mustang-at-gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:22:40 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) they put the Diesels (SD33) in the Scouts, and other models from 1976-1979, in 1980, their last year, they put in the SD33T. :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: # If I recall the 1980 was the only year they offered the Scout with the # Diesel. It also happen to be the last year of production for the Scouts. I # did not know how many were made but not many. I have a the "international # red book" at home and can check the production numbers, but I am sure his # number is very close it not correct. # # I have been to a lot of IH Scout shows and only seen a few of the Diesel.... # I know they are hard to find for sure. # # Anyway, I knew you just picked up the SD33T so you might find this # interesting. I may just bring you to the IH side of things yet. # # David # # # On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, john wrote: # # > wow. that's beautiful... # > # > what's interesting is last weekend I bought an engine with about the same # > mileage # > from a guy from Oregon out of the same year scout... using it in my '83 # > J10 Stepside. # > # > I wonder what the reserve is... I've got a T19/D300 I'm selling to a friend # > in the # > bay area... just need to figure out how to wrap it and send it... :) # > # > # > saw this on the auction: # > With only 6,497 Scouts produced with the SD33T Nissan Turbo Diesel, # > this truck is rare by production numbers... Didn't know that. # > # > # > thanx David, nice find... # > # > john # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: # > # > # Thought of you when I saw this.... # > # # > # No connection to seller and know nothing of the truck. # > # # > # # > # # > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-of-a-kind-Diesel-Truck-with-Veggie-Oil-conversion_W0QQitemZ330366465487QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb6035cf # > # # > # or just ebay item 330366465487 # > # # > # # > # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 15:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: diesel john Subject: xj: mobile welder for cheap... I know many of us have longed for on-board welding capabilities and a few have swapped out our alternators for one... but here's a new wrinkle I stumbled upon while researching some WVO ideas: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1829543/diy_homemade_lawnmower_alternator_welder.html?cat=32 john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 08:33:08 -0500 From: David Bierschank Subject: Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) Well I did say, "if I recall"...... and 1980 was the only year for the SD33T in the Scout. So I was mostly correct.. ;-} David On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM, john wrote: > they put the Diesels (SD33) in the Scouts, and other models from 1976-1979, > in 1980, their last year, they put in the SD33T. :) > > john > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: > > # If I recall the 1980 was the only year they offered the Scout with the > # Diesel. It also happen to be the last year of production for the > Scouts. I > # did not know how many were made but not many. I have a the > "international > # red book" at home and can check the production numbers, but I am sure > his > # number is very close it not correct. > # > # I have been to a lot of IH Scout shows and only seen a few of the > Diesel.... > # I know they are hard to find for sure. > # > # Anyway, I knew you just picked up the SD33T so you might find this > # interesting. I may just bring you to the IH side of things yet. > # > # David > # > # > # On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, john wrote: > # > # > wow. that's beautiful... > # > > # > what's interesting is last weekend I bought an engine with about the > same > # > mileage > # > from a guy from Oregon out of the same year scout... using it in my > '83 > # > J10 Stepside. > # > > # > I wonder what the reserve is... I've got a T19/D300 I'm selling to a > friend > # > in the > # > bay area... just need to figure out how to wrap it and send it... :) > # > > # > > # > saw this on the auction: > # > With only 6,497 Scouts produced with the SD33T Nissan Turbo Diesel, > # > this truck is rare by production numbers... Didn't know that. > # > > # > > # > thanx David, nice find... > # > > # > john > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > > # > > # > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: > # > > # > # Thought of you when I saw this.... > # > # > # > # No connection to seller and know nothing of the truck. > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-of-a-kind-Diesel-Truck-with-Veggie-Oil-conversion_W0QQitemZ330366465487QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb6035cf > # > # > # > # or just ebay item 330366465487 > # > # > # > # > # > > # > # > # > # > - -- David Bierschank okc67mustang-at-gmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:12:47 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Off topic for John (Diesel Scout!) yes, you were. :) you must remember, I have taught things like assembly language programming, there is no margin for error... So I tend to be very detail oriented... I catch the little details others miss... of course I usually miss the obvious, but that's ok, that's what team work is all about, right? ;) remember, almost only counts in horseshoes, handgrenades and atom bombs... (and you'll rarely find "essay" questions on any of my exams... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: # Well I did say, "if I recall"...... and 1980 was the only year for the # SD33T in the Scout. So I was mostly correct.. ;-} # David # # On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:22 PM, john wrote: # # > they put the Diesels (SD33) in the Scouts, and other models from 1976-1979, # > in 1980, their last year, they put in the SD33T. :) # > # > john # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: # > # > # If I recall the 1980 was the only year they offered the Scout with the # > # Diesel. It also happen to be the last year of production for the # > Scouts. I # > # did not know how many were made but not many. I have a the # > "international # > # red book" at home and can check the production numbers, but I am sure # > his # > # number is very close it not correct. # > # # > # I have been to a lot of IH Scout shows and only seen a few of the # > Diesel.... # > # I know they are hard to find for sure. # > # # > # Anyway, I knew you just picked up the SD33T so you might find this # > # interesting. I may just bring you to the IH side of things yet. # > # # > # David # > # # > # # > # On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, john wrote: # > # # > # > wow. that's beautiful... # > # > # > # > what's interesting is last weekend I bought an engine with about the # > same # > # > mileage # > # > from a guy from Oregon out of the same year scout... using it in my # > '83 # > # > J10 Stepside. # > # > # > # > I wonder what the reserve is... I've got a T19/D300 I'm selling to a # > friend # > # > in the # > # > bay area... just need to figure out how to wrap it and send it... :) # > # > # > # > # > # > saw this on the auction: # > # > With only 6,497 Scouts produced with the SD33T Nissan Turbo Diesel, # > # > this truck is rare by production numbers... Didn't know that. # > # > # > # > # > # > thanx David, nice find... # > # > # > # > john # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > # > # > # > On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, David Bierschank wrote: # > # > # > # > # Thought of you when I saw this.... # > # > # # > # > # No connection to seller and know nothing of the truck. # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/One-of-a-kind-Diesel-Truck-with-Veggie-Oil-conversion_W0QQitemZ330366465487QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ceb6035cf # > # > # # > # > # or just ebay item 330366465487 # > # > # # > # > # # > # > # > # # > # # > # # > # # > # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:50:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: fsj: FWIW - Head Gasket Leaks / Seepage on Jeep 4.0L Engines tech info (fwd) fyi ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Troy Phagan Head Gasket Leaks / Seepage on Jeep 4.0L Engines (Includes detailed instructions / torque procedures.) Article link: http://www.enginebuildermag.com/Article/66475/head_gasket_leaksseepage_found_in_198793_jeep_40l_engines.aspx - -- - -Troy Troy Phagan C.R.P. 4x4 & Auto Accessories 2102 9th ST Greeley, CO 80631 970-351-8603 fax: 970-353-3066 tsp-at-crptruck.com www.crptruck.com www.smilingcharleys.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:54:50 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: FW: THE BARN (the one with 180 cars in Portugual...) what guy hasn't gotten this email? or heard about this incredible find... well, this urban legend is busted... (sorry...) http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/1110 http://www.intuh.net/barnfinds/index.htm http://www.sportscarmarket.com/portugesebarnfind.pdf http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=548055 http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/barn-of-cars.htm from: http://www.sportscarmarket.com/articles/archives/1110 Huge collections like the one in Portugal don't just happen. Cars are accumulated by someone with a purpose By Tom Cotter One day this January, I received at least ten forwarded email attachments to a web site that featured photos of an eclectic collection of old cars in a decaying building. For the next week it seemed the web was literally blanketed with these images, each giving a similar story: .Imagine moving into an old farmhouse in the Portuguese countryside, and, while walking around .the lower 40. of your new investment, you come across an old building. Curious as to what may be inside, you pry open the rusted door and for the first time in decades, one of the largest hordes of old cars ever discovered is exposed to sunlight.. I didn.t believe that story for a moment. Huge collections of cars don.t just happen. Cars are accumulated.sometimes lovingly, sometimes not.by someone with a purpose. I was sure this collection was not assembled by accident; nobody would simply sell an old farm and fail to mention to the new owners the stash of old cars in the barn. I decided to investigate. I searched the web and ultimately came to an English language dead end at the Mazda Miata Club Norway web site. But I kept going, sending emails in English and hoping that some kind recipient would take a few moments to answer some questions. All indications were that the cars were hidden somewhere in Portugal, so that.s where I focused my investigation. Through a Cobra buddy, Don Silawski of Washington, DC, I contracted with a Portuguese translator, Clara Dixon. Clara would be my tour guide and try to unearth some of the naked truth regarding this huge stash. Clara also checked the Internet for news stories that may have been written in Portuguese newspapers about the cars. I was beginning to feel like a CIA sleuth. I must admit that for me, a lifelong barn-finder, a collection this large would be the discovery of a lifetime. My 15-year-old son, Brian, even tried to convince me to hop a flight to Portugal to see if I could actually find the collection myself. I was eventually able to contact the photographer who was contracted by the cars. owner to shoot the photographs that would ultimately appear on millions of car-guy computer monitors beginning on January 20. THE STORY BEHIND THE STORY Manuel Menezes Morais shot the photos, but he was sworn to secrecy about the cars. location and the owner.s name. However, he was able to obtain permission from the elusive owner to give me the following information: The owner of the cars was a car dealer in the 1970s and 1980s, and decided to save the more interesting cars that came through his doors. When the barn was full, he padlocked and .soldered. the doors shut. (Perhaps welding was too permanent.) Web sites varied on the number of cars: 58, 100, and 180 were speculated. According to Morais, there are 180 cars in the barn. And, aw shucks, none of the cars is for sale. Clara was able to determine that the cars are located somewhere in the area of Sintra, near Lisbon. I asked Morais if he could ask the owner if he had a favorite car. .He has lots of good cars in very good condition,. he says, .but he loves the Lancia Aurelia B24. He has two.. I would ask that a European-based SCM subscriber pick this story up and help fill in the blanks. And let me know what you find (tomgcotter-at-roadrunner.com). I.d like to include the true story in a future In the Barn book, as well as in SCM. So, what's in there? TOM COTTER is a contributing editor to Road & Track. The sequel to Cotter.s book Cobra in the Barn, to be called The Hemi in the Barn, will be published by Motorbooks this fall. ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3090 *************************