From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Wed Nov 25 16:29:47 2009 From: xj-digest xj-digest Thursday, November 26 2009 Volume 01 : Number 3111 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Re: My Sons 2001 WJ and totaled 2000 XJ Re: xj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) Re: xj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? xj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:09:39 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: Re: My Sons 2001 WJ and totaled 2000 XJ On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: # Just thought I would drop you a line on my son's WJ lift and new tires. got any details on the lift? looks good put the pictures here: http://wagoneers.com/tmp/wj-lifted-xj-totaled/ john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:51:39 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Kummel Subject: Re: xj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) Ha Ha! That was fun! I would have loved to see what the shredded by-product looks like! I'm sure that the shredding makes quite a bit of noise too! I wonder if they can use this for the "Cash for Clunkers" cars that were turned in? This reminds me a little bit of "Does it Blend" (youtube it for those unfamiliar!) Ed web/gadget guru - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ By Richard Feynman, Physicist, Nobel winner (1918-1988) "There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." - --- On Wed, 11/25/09, diesel john wrote: From: diesel john Subject: xj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) To: Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:05 PM need to get rid of some old parts... tires... furniture or appliances??? check this out... http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/the_monster.htm ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:34:52 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) there was a blending experiment like this on Time Warp... or whatever that show is that uses high speed cameras and bunch of juvenile experiments all in the name of science and fun... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Ed Kummel wrote: # Ha Ha! That was fun! I would have loved to see what the shredded by-product # looks like! I'm sure that the shredding makes quite a bit of noise too! # I wonder if they can use this for the "Cash for Clunkers" cars that were # turned in? # # This reminds me a little bit of "Does it Blend" (youtube it for those # unfamiliar!) # # Ed # web/gadget guru # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # By Richard Feynman, Physicist, Nobel winner (1918-1988) # # # "There are 10^11 stars in the galaxy. That used to be a huge number. But it's # only a hundred billion. It's less than the national deficit! We used to call # them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers." # # --- On Wed, 11/25/09, diesel john wrote: # # From: diesel john # Subject: xj: OT: FW: Monster shredder (fwd) # To: # Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:05 PM # # need to get rid of some old parts... tires... # furniture or appliances??? check this out... # # # http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/the_monster.htm # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:49:16 -0800 (PST) From: diesel john Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head gasket... but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what extent... pictures of the plugs at: http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. #1 - 145 #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... #3 - 30 #4 - 30 #5 - 145 #6 - didn't bother... pictures of the mountains etc. here: http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 17:53:01 -0600 From: "Mike Petersen" Subject: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's ugly. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" To: "undisclosed-recipients:" Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad > head gasket... > > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... > > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what > extent... > > pictures of the plugs at: > > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > > > > > > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. > > #1 - 145 > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... > #3 - 30 > #4 - 30 > #5 - 145 > #6 - didn't bother... > > > pictures of the mountains etc. here: > > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html > > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:43 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? piston hit it... can see the mark on the piston through the spark plug hole... but why??? they're not supposed to do that. :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: # It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's # ugly. # # # ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM # Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? # # # > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head # > gasket... # > # > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... # > # > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what # > extent... # > # > pictures of the plugs at: # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > # > # > # > # > # > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. # > # > #1 - 145 # > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... # > #3 - 30 # > #4 - 30 # > #5 - 145 # > #6 - didn't bother... # > # > # > pictures of the mountains etc. here: # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:21:14 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? Bad rod bearing or the motor ingested something it shouldn't have > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:43 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: xj-at-digest.net > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; timesawastin-at-bigpond.com; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? > > piston hit it... can see the mark on the piston through the spark plug hole... > but why??? they're not supposed to do that. :) > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: > > # It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's > # ugly. > # > # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" > # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" > # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM > # Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? > # > # > # > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head > # > gasket... > # > > # > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... > # > > # > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what > # > extent... > # > > # > pictures of the plugs at: > # > > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2 nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2 nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. > # > > # > #1 - 145 > # > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... > # > #3 - 30 > # > #4 - 30 > # > #5 - 145 > # > #6 - didn't bother... > # > > # > > # > pictures of the mountains etc. here: > # > > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html > # > > # > > # > > # > > # > ----- > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # _________________________________________________________________ Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID2472 7::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:29:00 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: RE: how did this spark plug get damaged? would a blown head gasket do this??? the engine didn't rattle when cranked with no plugs in it... the crankcase has about three extra quarts worth of fluid in it... ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Bob Brooks wrote: # John; # # Just a guess, but I'd expect to see a dropped valve and a piston with some # rather large dents # # Bob # # -----Original Message----- # From: owner-fsj-at-digest.net [mailto:owner-fsj-at-digest.net] On Behalf Of diesel # john # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 6:49 PM # To: undisclosed-recipients: # Subject: fsj: how did this spark plug get damaged? # # REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head # gasket... # # but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... # # #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what # extent... # # pictures of the plugs at: # # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_ # 2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_ # 2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # # # # # # Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. # # #1 - 145 # #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... # #3 - 30 # #4 - 30 # #5 - 145 # #6 - didn't bother... # # # pictures of the mountains etc. here: # # http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html # # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:29:32 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? want to help open this thing up and discover the mystery? you'll be first on the scene... ;) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Jim Blair wrote: # Bad rod bearing or the motor ingested something it shouldn't have # # > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 16:01:43 -0800 # > From: john-at-wagoneers.com # > To: xj-at-digest.net # > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; timesawastin-at-bigpond.com; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com # > Subject: fsj: Re: xj: Re: how did this spark plug get damaged? # > # > piston hit it... can see the mark on the piston through the spark plug hole... # > but why??? they're not supposed to do that. :) # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Wed, 25 Nov 2009, Mike Petersen wrote: # > # > # It either sucked a valve or the piston hit it. Any way you look at it, it's # > # ugly. # > # # > # # > # ----- Original Message ----- From: "diesel john" # > # To: "undisclosed-recipients:" # > # Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 5:49 PM # > # Subject: xj: how did this spark plug get damaged? # > # # > # # > # > REF: 2000 4.0L in Grand Cherokee.. lost rad hose... overheated and bad head # > # > gasket... # > # > # > # > but trying to figure out what happened to #2 spark plug... # > # > # > # > #2 plug suffered greatly... when I get the head off I'll know to what # > # > extent... # > # > # > # > pictures of the plugs at: # > # > # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5804_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/JEM_5805_2nd-plug-2009_11_24.jpg # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > Pulled the plugs and did a compression test last night. # > # > # > # > #1 - 145 # > # > #2 - ZERO, NADA, Zip... an O with the rim kicked off... # > # > #3 - 30 # > # > #4 - 30 # > # > #5 - 145 # > # > #6 - didn't bother... # > # > # > # > # > # > pictures of the mountains etc. here: # > # > # > # > http://fotomeister.us/fotos/2009/11-Nov-25-Mountains-2000WJrepairs/ALL.html # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > # > ----- # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://creationwiki.org # > # > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us # > # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # # # _________________________________________________________________ # Windows 7: I wanted simpler, now it's simpler. I'm a rock star. # http://www.microsoft.com/Windows/windows-7/default.aspx?h=myidea?ocid=PID24727::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WWL_WIN_myidea:112009 ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3111 *************************