From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Jan 10 01:24:46 2011 From: xj-digest xj-digest Monday, January 10 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3257 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Fw: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD RE: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 xj: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD xj: RE: fsj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel xj: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD RE: fsj: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel RE: fsj: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel RE: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:06:19 +0000 From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net Subject: xj: Fw: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD - ------Original Message------ From: Terry-au Halmshaw To: Dj Subject: Re: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD Sent: Jan 9, 2011 20:45 Stock bell housing, bolts straight up just like the 727. As you know the 904 and 727 are Chrysler the 904 being the worse of the two, I would not touch either given the choice. At 02:21 PM 10/01/2011, you wrote: >thanx Terry... that confirms it... had another wrench friend in >Chicago also confirm it, >my books said the same thing... > >is it the stock jeep bell housing then or did they have an adapter? > >need to get a flex plate and tc, they should have them at the local >trans shop... will call tomorrow. > >john > >On 1/9/2011 6:47 PM, T.Halmshaw wrote: >>Indeed the Torqueflite 904 was the unit used. >> >>:) >>At 10:33 AM 10/01/2011, you wrote: >>>I think the automatic used in the '86 jeep xj behind the 2.1L TD >>>was the 904. >>> >>>Anyone able to verify that info? >>>john at http://wagoneers.com >>> >>>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >>>signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ >>> >>>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>>http://www.eset.com >> >> > >-- > > ----- >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com > > john at http://wagoneers.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:09:26 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 The 904 is a solid casting with the bell, unlike the AW4 which has a removable one. The motor determines what pattern bell is needed. What we need is a good picture of the rear of the 2.1L to see if it's recognizable. Same as when I saw the SD33 pattern and noted it's similarity to the inline 6 gas motors used in 240/260/ 280z cars and L series 4 cyls. The tin plate off a Z car would determine if I'm right or not. > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:12:21 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: xj-at-digest.net > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 > > does anyone know if a 904 and an AW4 can be interchanged? > > same bell housing pattern? starter location? > > how about length? > > I have an AW4, could wire up manual switches, or make it > work properly... > > if I can gather the pieces needed I will likely be putting back > together an '86 xj with the 2.1L TD... > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, john wrote: > > # the factory shop manual confirms that the Automatic used > # behind the 2.1L Turbo Diesel is a 904. From reading the R&R process > # it is likely the same transmission used with the 2.5L and 2.8V6. > # There is nothing noting any special adapters, there is this NOTE: > # > # On Diesel Models remove left motor mount and starter to gain access to the > # converter drive plate bolts through the starter opening. pg f-8 mr244. > # > # sounds like the engine gets in the way of the normal access... the > # 2.1L TD has an oil pan that dips down, has two drain plugs. > # > # john > # > # > # ----- > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:11:57 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD While the main case is 904, the bell pattern was different between engines. 2.5, 2.8 are the same, but not like AMC 6 or V8. > Subject: Fw: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD > To: xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:06:19 +0000 > > ------Original Message------ > From: Terry-au Halmshaw > To: Dj > Subject: Re: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD > Sent: Jan 9, 2011 20:45 > > Stock bell housing, bolts straight up just like the 727. > > As you know the 904 and 727 are Chrysler the 904 being > the worse of the two, I would not touch either given the choice. > > > > At 02:21 PM 10/01/2011, you wrote: > >thanx Terry... that confirms it... had another wrench friend in > >Chicago also confirm it, > >my books said the same thing... > > > >is it the stock jeep bell housing then or did they have an adapter? > > > >need to get a flex plate and tc, they should have them at the local > >trans shop... will call tomorrow. > > > >john > > > >On 1/9/2011 6:47 PM, T.Halmshaw wrote: > >>Indeed the Torqueflite 904 was the unit used. > >> > >>:) > >>At 10:33 AM 10/01/2011, you wrote: > >>>I think the automatic used in the '86 jeep xj behind the 2.1L TD > >>>was the 904. > >>> > >>>Anyone able to verify that info? > >>>john at http://wagoneers.com > >>> > >>>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >>>signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ > >>> > >>>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >>> > >>>http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > > > >-- > > > > ----- > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ > > > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > >http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > john at http://wagoneers.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:19:21 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: fsj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 Doesn't make too much sense though. The Jeep 4 cyl starter bolts to the block (like Chev, probably because the 2.8 and previously used GM 4 cyl used them) If the diesel bolts to the bell, then maybe it's the same pattern as the Audi 2.0L 904 I had in my postal jeep? > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:09:12 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: fsj-at-digest.net; xj-at-digest.net; diesel-benz-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > Subject: fsj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 > > the factory shop manual confirms that the Automatic used > behind the 2.1L Turbo Diesel is a 904. From reading the R&R process > it is likely the same transmission used with the 2.5L and 2.8V6. > There is nothing noting any special adapters, there is this NOTE: > > On Diesel Models remove left motor mount and starter to gain access to the > converter drive plate bolts through the starter opening. pg f-8 mr244. > > sounds like the engine gets in the way of the normal access... the > 2.1L TD has an oil pan that dips down, has two drain plugs. > > john > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:11:08 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel Found a little more on the 2.1 and where to get parts around here http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/584104603/m/1521048841/p/5 Interesting link to Mack and Volvo trucks with Renault motors and a VW tie in. http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?4894-Renault-diesel-info Strange history http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388259 Repair manual for the engine http://www.bookbase.co.uk/profiles/by-id/32304/ Bell picture? Starter in different place than 4.0 or 2.5 http://www.jeep-stock.com/484-911-large/cloche-embrayage-cherokee-21l-renault - -j8s-diesel-1984-1994-occasion.jpg It's even for sale! 365 euros = 470.9960 US dollars http://www.jeep-stock.com/484-cloche-embrayage-cherokee-21l-renault-j8s-diese l-1984-1994-occasion.html Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:26:21 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > CC: xj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel > > not sure. I have seen the automatic, and the 5 speed, > but I sold mine in '91 so I don't remember... > > I checked one place and they listed a 904. > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, Jim Blair wrote: > > # > # A: What bell pattern do they have? If the same as 2.5 and 2.8 V6, I have a bell for an AX-5. They had internal and external slave cyls so they are different. > # > # > # From: john > # Subject: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel > # > # any chance of finding an automatic transmission for > # the Renault 2.1L Turbo Diesel in a 4x4 Cherokee? > # > # I've found an '86 XJ with a bad bell housing / 5 speed... > # at the least I'll need the bell housing for the starter, but > # ultimately I'd like it to be an automatic... also need some > # of the a/c parts... someone removed parts of it, hopefully > # just the parts under the hood... supposedly crimped the lines. > # > # haven't seen it yet but it sounds like a worthy jeep rescue > # project that may replace my Jetta... > # > # > # thanx, > # john > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:25:31 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD Unless this picture is upside down, the starter on the Renault diesel is on top on the driver's side, opposite of the 4.0L starter. http://www.jeep-stock.com/484-911-large/cloche-embrayage-cherokee-21l-renault - -j8s-diesel-1984-1994-occasion.jpg They confirmed a 904 was used, but not which pattern it has. I want photographic proof before I say yay or nay! Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Subject: Re: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; dieseljohn-at-comcast.net; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:28:30 +0000 > > If you read the excerpt I posted from the manual you'd see how they connect, also terry confirmed it's the stock case. They use these in AU as well. > john at http://wagoneers.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Blair > Sender: owner-fsj-at-digest.net > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 23:11:57 > To: ; ; > Reply-To: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD > > While the main case is 904, the bell pattern was different between engines. > 2.5, 2.8 are the same, but not like AMC 6 or V8. > > > Subject: Fw: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD > > To: xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > > From: dieseljohn-at-comcast.net > > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 07:06:19 +0000 > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Terry-au Halmshaw > > To: Dj > > Subject: Re: fsj: Automatic trans 2.1TD > > Sent: Jan 9, 2011 20:45 > > > > Stock bell housing, bolts straight up just like the 727. > > > > As you know the 904 and 727 are Chrysler the 904 being > > the worse of the two, I would not touch either given the choice. > > > > > > > > At 02:21 PM 10/01/2011, you wrote: > > >thanx Terry... that confirms it... had another wrench friend in > > >Chicago also confirm it, > > >my books said the same thing... > > > > > >is it the stock jeep bell housing then or did they have an adapter? > > > > > >need to get a flex plate and tc, they should have them at the local > > >trans shop... will call tomorrow. > > > > > >john > > > > > >On 1/9/2011 6:47 PM, T.Halmshaw wrote: > > >>Indeed the Torqueflite 904 was the unit used. > > >> > > >>:) > > >>At 10:33 AM 10/01/2011, you wrote: > > >>>I think the automatic used in the '86 jeep xj behind the 2.1L TD > > >>>was the 904. > > >>> > > >>>Anyone able to verify that info? > > >>>john at http://wagoneers.com > > >>> > > >>>__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > >>>signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ > > >>> > > >>>The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > >>> > > >>>http://www.eset.com > > >> > > >> > > > > > >-- > > > > > > ----- > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > >http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > > >signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ > > > > > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > > > >http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > john at http://wagoneers.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:51:47 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel that's about what I thought it said (and my French is as rusty as a Citroen in Maine!) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:37:11 -0800 Subject: Re: fsj: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel From: michelbalea-at-gmail.com To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com I love the note about the trany bellhousing La rupture de la cloche est toujours due ` un dimarreur mal fixi, remontez impirativement les 2 pattes arrihres du dimarreur! Michel a loose starter is more likely to break the bellhousing..... exciting endeavor..... On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Jim Blair wrote: Found a little more on the 2.1 and where to get parts around here http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/584104603/m/1521048841/p/5 Interesting link to Mack and Volvo trucks with Renault motors and a VW tie in. http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?4894-Renault-diesel-info Strange history http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388259 Repair manual for the engine http://www.bookbase.co.uk/profiles/by-id/32304/ Bell picture? Starter in different place than 4.0 or 2.5 http://www.jeep-stock.com/484-911-large/cloche-embrayage-cherokee-21l-renault - -j8s-diesel-1984-1994-occasion.jpg It's even for sale! 365 euros = 470.9960 US dollars http://www.jeep-stock.com/484-cloche-embrayage-cherokee-21l-renault-j8s-diese l-1984-1994-occasion.html Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 - ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 19:26:21 -0800 > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > CC: xj-at-digest.net > Subject: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel > > not sure. I have seen the automatic, and the 5 speed, > but I sold mine in '91 so I don't remember... > > I checked one place and they listed a 904. > > john > > > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, Jim Blair wrote: > > # > # A: What bell pattern do they have? If the same as 2.5 and 2.8 V6, I have a bell for an AX-5. They had internal and external slave cyls so they are different. > # > # > # From: john > # Subject: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel > # > # any chance of finding an automatic transmission for > # the Renault 2.1L Turbo Diesel in a 4x4 Cherokee? > # > # I've found an '86 XJ with a bad bell housing / 5 speed... > # at the least I'll need the bell housing for the starter, but > # ultimately I'd like it to be an automatic... also need some > # of the a/c parts... someone removed parts of it, hopefully > # just the parts under the hood... supposedly crimped the lines. > # > # haven't seen it yet but it sounds like a worthy jeep rescue > # project that may replace my Jetta... > # > # > # thanx, > # john > # ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 00:55:42 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel I had already assumed that since the same thing happens to Jeeps with loose starters. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Subject: Re: fsj: RE: xj: need an Automatic for an '86 XJ w/2.1L Turbo Diesel > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com; michelbalea-at-gmail.com; xj-at-digest.net; fsj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 08:54:15 +0000 > > The loose starter is what cracked the bellhousing. > john at http://wagoneers.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 01:09:07 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 Glad for the confirmation. They use the 5 speed in 4x4s here and except '87/88 models they seem to be fine (non-backwards threaded nut on the countershaft backs off and destroys the transmission from within) Looking at an 810 diesel LD24 with Jatco automatic and converting trans to 4x4 for an XJ/MJ swap. Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 > Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 20:04:46 +1100 > To: carnuck-at-hotmail.com > From: timesawastin-at-bigpond.com > Subject: RE: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 > > SD-33 as with the ED-33 are the same pattern as all L series engines, so no > need for the sandwich plate comparison, however never...I repeat NEVER use > a 240/60/80 Z series 5 speed gearbox with any live axle setup, these boxes > are for IRS rear ended cars only and the extra shock factor they receive from > live axle setups will break the lay shaft. > > One damn near killed my wife and I back in 92, we still have the pins in our > spines to prove it, love my Datto's, but that 5 speed is total crap. > > Same engines were used in the MQ Patrols (L series) G series ie G60 used the > P40 engine, a bullet proof but very thirsty engine. > > Strange thing is the L28 series engine was used in the MQ Patrol and > was a total > disaster, they are great engines, but were meant for the 280C (1981 > Cedric) and > 280 Z passenger cars NOT a 4X4, the engines rev freely to 7000 RPM and were > almost doing 6000 -at- 60MPH, imagine the fuel costs, even back in the 80's people > were swearing at them not by them, probably the most stupid decision > ever made by > Nissan. > > > > At 06:09 PM 10/01/2011, you wrote: > >The 904 is a solid casting with the bell, unlike the AW4 which has a removable > >one. The motor determines what pattern bell is needed. What we need is a good > >picture of the rear of the 2.1L to see if it's recognizable. > > Same as when I saw the SD33 pattern and noted it's similarity to > > the inline > >6 gas motors used in 240/260/ 280z cars and L series 4 cyls. The tin plate off > >a Z car would determine if I'm right or not. > > > > > Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 21:12:21 -0800 > > > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > > > To: xj-at-digest.net > > > CC: fsj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com > > > Subject: fsj: Re: xj: '86 xj 2.1L TD - used 904 > > > > > > does anyone know if a 904 and an AW4 can be interchanged? > > > > > > same bell housing pattern? starter location? > > > > > > how about length? > > > > > > I have an AW4, could wire up manual switches, or make it > > > work properly... > > > > > > if I can gather the pieces needed I will likely be putting back > > > together an '86 xj with the 2.1L TD... > > > john > > > > > > > > > ----- > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > > http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Jan 2011, john wrote: > > > > > > # the factory shop manual confirms that the Automatic used > > > # behind the 2.1L Turbo Diesel is a 904. From reading the R&R process > > > # it is likely the same transmission used with the 2.5L and 2.8V6. > > > # There is nothing noting any special adapters, there is this NOTE: > > > # > > > # On Diesel Models remove left motor mount and starter to gain access to > >the > > > # converter drive plate bolts through the starter opening. pg f-8 mr244. > > > # > > > # sounds like the engine gets in the way of the normal access... the > > > # 2.1L TD has an oil pan that dips down, has two drain plugs. > > > # > > > # john > > > # > > > # > > > # ----- > > > # - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > # Snohomish, Washington -o|||||o- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold > > > # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 si vis pacem, para bellum > > > # http://johnmeister.com http://wagoneers.com http://fotomeister.us > > > # - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > # > > > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > >signature database 5772 (20110109) __________ > > > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > >http://www.eset.com ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3257 *************************