From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Thu Jul 14 23:05:46 2011 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, July 15 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3304 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: track bar upgrade for use with a low lift? Re: xj: track bar upgrade for use with a low lift? xj: Re: new head gasket product (fwd) xj: administrivia: notes on using this list XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:24:48 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: track bar upgrade for use with a low lift? excellent info... I'd found that the OME lift kits had gotten pretty harsh, bought a '91 xj with it and sold it shortly after... should have waited, eh? :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, John Hoverson wrote: # http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Steering-Accessories/Heavy-Duty-Tie-Rod-System-by-Cu # rrie-Enterprises.aspx?t_c=76&t_s=430&t_pt=4482&t_pl=101401&t_pn=CURCE-9701#a # ctive1 # # I installed an Old Man Emu (ARB) 2" lift kit, springs, shocks ( you have a # choice of soft med hard damping rates depending on accessories you plan to # add bumpers winches etc. I went with Currie Enterprises steering parts, very # heavy duty worked very well with BFG all terrain 31X10.5 on 15" rock crawler # steel wheels. Also added JKS upper and lower adjustable control arms lift # was a modest 2.5 -3 " Transformed the XJ into a very comfortable ride , much # better than stock. The steering parts were not cheap however essential if # going to larger tires and to avoid death wobble. Have around 70,000 miles on # the setup and steering is still tight. Wear as stock would have been # replaced at least twice. Very capable off road as well as comfortable for # long trips with two dogs and a wife # On 7/7/11 3:58 PM, "john" wrote: # # > there was an adjustable track bar that I bought at Central 4wd, but that was a # > long time ago... # > it worked well... was around $105 only... had 3" of lift... # > # > john # > # > # > # > ----- # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > -o|||||o- # > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold # > http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # > http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # > # > # > On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, ernest breakfield wrote: # > # > # hi all! # > # # > # it's probably (past) time for a track bar, and possibly associated # > # upgrades, but most aftermarket track bars i see advertised state that # > # they're for lifts starting at 3.5" or higher; any recommendations for # > # something with a lower lift? # > # # > # lift is OME with an extra set of extra coil isolators in the front. # > # (OME HD and YJ shackles in the rear.) # > # # > # # > # cheers! # > # e # > # # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:41:03 -0700 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: track bar upgrade for use with a low lift? nice, but am really only looking for a track bar at this point, not having any problems with the steering linkage that i can tell. this is only the second track bar i've gone through in the last 250K miles so it's not like i have a need for a great deal of heavy-duty stuff, but i would like a bit of adjustability. will have to take a look at Curries stuff, but the 4WD website is pretty weak on actual specs for most of their offerings, and they don't make it easy to tell what lift range a part was intended for. FWIW, i've also been very happy with the OME stuff i based my lift around. i used the standard shocks instead of the 'C' (Comfort) series, and while it's on the firm side around town, it's perfect on the trail when toting a full camping load (and wife and dog). i just throttled back to BFG ATs on the last set of tires, and while they're cushy, frankly, it felt better in all situations when i was using the heavier MT/Rs (and they weren't any louder). cheers! e On 12/Jul/11 10:29, John Hoverson wrote: > http://www.4wd.com/Jeep-Steering-Accessories/Heavy-Duty-Tie-Rod-System-by-Cu > rrie-Enterprises.aspx?t_c=76&t_s=430&t_pt=4482&t_pl=101401&t_pn=CURCE-9701#a > ctive1 > > I installed an Old Man Emu (ARB) 2" lift kit, springs, shocks ( you have a > choice of soft med hard damping rates depending on accessories you plan to > add bumpers winches etc. I went with Currie Enterprises steering parts, very > heavy duty worked very well with BFG all terrain 31X10.5 on 15" rock crawler > steel wheels. Also added JKS upper and lower adjustable control arms lift > was a modest 2.5 -3 " Transformed the XJ into a very comfortable ride , much > better than stock. The steering parts were not cheap however essential if > going to larger tires and to avoid death wobble. Have around 70,000 miles on > the setup and steering is still tight. Wear as stock would have been > replaced at least twice. Very capable off road as well as comfortable for > long trips with two dogs and a wife > On 7/7/11 3:58 PM, "john" wrote: > >> there was an adjustable track bar that I bought at Central 4wd, but that was a >> long time ago... >> it worked well... was around $105 only... had 3" of lift... >> >> john >> >> >> >> ----- >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -o|||||o- >> Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold >> http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 >> http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> On Thu, 7 Jul 2011, ernest breakfield wrote: >> >> # hi all! >> # >> # it's probably (past) time for a track bar, and possibly associated >> # upgrades, but most aftermarket track bars i see advertised state that >> # they're for lifts starting at 3.5" or higher; any recommendations for >> # something with a lower lift? >> # >> # lift is OME with an extra set of extra coil isolators in the front. >> # (OME HD and YJ shackles in the rear.) >> # >> # >> # cheers! >> # e >> # ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 10:00:04 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: new head gasket product (fwd) good tech question/topic... sharing across groups... don't reply all unless you're on all... ;) head gaskets, timing chains/belts, seals, filters... all these soft/wear parts... good to share info... I mean not everyone is willing to use JB Weld and Duct tape... ;) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Stephen Rigley Here's one http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=279981 On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Stephen Rigley wrote: Would love to hear about some real world experience on this.. although.. any product that mentions "science" in its marketing blurb I'd be sceptical about. http://www.steelseal.co.uk/steel-seal--blown-head-gasket-repair-1-p.asp steve ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 06:05:02 +0000 From: Richard Welty Subject: xj: administrivia: notes on using this list Digest.Net mailing list "Meta FAQ" These general notes on using Digest.Net mailing lists are posted on the 1st and 15th of each month. 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