From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Jul 29 10:51:07 2011 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, July 29 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3308 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: Re: xj: Door hinge drama. Re: xj: Door hinge drama. xj: RE: fsj: Re: np229 XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:11:44 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: Re: xj: Door hinge drama. Isn't there slots for adjustment? From: Christopher Wilson Subject: xj: Door hinge drama. Howdy gang My 96 XJ is having the well known problem with the hinge welds giving out due out over extension of the door. It has progressed to the point that I can see daylight between the door and the body when it is closed. My plan to fix it is this: Remove kick panel and disconnect the wire harnesses. Remove useless limiting bar. Remove the 6 torx bolts that hold the door to the hinge. Weld up the hinge and then reassemble. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 10:12:50 -0700 From: ernest breakfield Subject: Re: xj: Door hinge drama. issue is that the hinge is molded to formed sheet metal, with nothing underneath for support. this was enough of an issue that there used to be a factory kit to create a more solid mount; you might want to check if there's still such a thing available, or at least get a good look at one to see if it might be something you can fab up yourself. cheers! e On 23/Jul/11 09:50, Christopher Wilson wrote: > Howdy gang > > My 96 XJ is having the well known problem with the hinge welds giving out > due out over extension of the door. It has progressed to the point that I > can see daylight between the door and the body when it is closed. > > My plan to fix it is this: > > Remove kick panel and disconnect the wire harnesses. > > Remove useless limiting bar. > > Remove the 6 torx bolts that hold the door to the hinge. > > Weld up the hinge and then reassemble. > > Any comments or advice? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 10:50:13 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: fsj: Re: np229 The FSJ and XJ (as well as the single speed version NP119/128/129s used in Eagles) NP219, NP228 and NP229 are all fixed yoke and 23 spline, EXCEPT a few 5 speed Eagles with BA-10/5 trans which are 21 spline (and probably only used the NP119) The XJs only used the NP229 and NP228 with the 3 speed auto Mopar trans which came behind the AMC 2.5 and GM 2.8 V-sicks with the Selectrac emblem on the back. The NP208 was used from '80 till '88 (so far none have popped up after the J20s went away) I have one here in Seattle that I'd trade for a good NP228 or NP229 (for the Eagle I'm fixing for my wife) The NP242, NP231 and a few other 23 spline XJ cases (08/90 and newer build date except 3 speed auto as above) will bolt to the 727 or 9XX cases in FSJs, BUT they will be 1" short from the bottom, which may case an issue with endplay inside the case and extra wear on the trans output shaft teeth. To go the other way (AW4 or AX15 23 spline) to NP 208/219/228/229, you need a 1" spacer ring and extended studs from http://partsmike.com to bolt up. You will need to make a trans crossbar change as well (I moved my 6 cyl bar back 1 hole and regrouped the others till I make a new crossbar this fall) I currently have an AW4 and NP208 in my '83 J10 that's going to become a parts truck for my son in Canada. Right now I'm off to haul a '71 Bug to pic'npull for my neighbor. They'll pay him $400 for it because it's a complete runner! > Subject: fsj: Re: np229 > To: FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com; fsj-at-digest.net > From: fullsizejeeps-at-gmail.com > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 16:20:38 +0000 > > The np229 and np228 are selectrac units. I'm not sure how well they like shifting on the fly. On the digest.net fsj list we've had a thread on finding one for a guy in florida. I posted pictures of my failed np228 from wagoneers.com. The 228 has a center diff unit (like the np242 in the xj) and the 229 a viscous coupler. You shouild never install hubs or remove the front driveshaft on the units because if 4wd is engaged without both axles connected damage may result. > > Another case that drops right in is the np219 quadratrac unit. Used from 80-82. The 228 was used around 86-88??? The 229 from 83-91. The 229 was also used in the xj but will likely have a different input spline count and a slip yoke rear output, used from 84-86 behind the worst engine ever put in a jeep, the chevy 2.8l v6. :) > > John > > > > Any aluminum case xfr case takes ATF and not gear lube. > > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3308 *************************