From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Fri Aug 19 16:59:14 2011 From: xj-digest xj-digest Friday, August 19 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3313 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: The final part out in Seattle commences! xj: Re: fsj: 1989 GW purchase for a restoration project xj: the future of emissions testing in WA XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:50:27 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: The final part out in Seattle commences! '76 J10 townside shortbox Tailgate and tail lights $200 (fits '73 to '88 Jtrucks) 290 motor from a '69 Rebel $200 Complete front clip '91 Cherokee $100 w/o the bumper (other parts will be posted later) Need any other parts? Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:43:35 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: fsj: 1989 GW purchase for a restoration project the vision in an XJ is worse than an SJ but orders of magnitude better than a WJ or any of the newer jeeps. john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 19 Aug 2011, T.Halmshaw wrote: # I am afraid I am the same way, until I engineer a different method of # opening the tailgate I will no longer own a FSJ, I still have Tess in a # million pieces waiting for my brain to kick into gear and figure out a # one piece tailgate setup for her, until then she will remain idle, but # before that can even happen I have to see if I can even be bothered # putting the brain power into such a project, after all it's only a FSJ. # # As much as I love them after owning XJ's I can't see the point of going # to the trouble, XJ's are ten times more reliable and already have the # one piece tailgate, if anything they are small and lack a little in vision, # otherwise they are far superior to a FSJ......oh and for what it's worth # I think the FSJ looks better. # # # On 18/08/2011 1:13:49 PM, john (john-at-wagoneers.com) wrote: # > I've given up on wagoneers... "omega" was my last... oh, they're nice # > rigs, especially with a Diesel... but after 20+ years of FSJ ownership # > I have developed the dreaded TailgateWindowPhobia... my son and friends # > have tried to help me overcome this dreaded condition... but I just # > can't # > get over it... I would go in through the back seat to put stuff in the # > back, # > fearing that if I rolled that window down it wouldn't # > come back up... sure, # > Omega had more trouble with the sunroof than the rear window, and the # > last # > four FSJs were all fine... but I think the thing that sealed my fate was # > that pretty white narrow track Cherokee... I worked all weekend on # > replacing # > every seal and part in the tailgate, it was perfect... finished moving # > all my goodies from superdawg to my new FSJ... was going to sell # > superdawg # > and have him shipped to belgium for a princely sum... but on the maiden # > voyage of that pretty narrow track I rolled the window down, loaded the # > trash can in the back, drove up to the top of the driveway, unloaded, # > then # > went to roll the window up and it either fell into the back or failed to # > work... I went back down the drive, canceled the sale of superdawg, put # > all my all my goodies back on superdawg and promptly sold the # white narrow track... # # my first fsj was a '67 wagoneer... manual rear window... it was cursed as # well, but not quite as bad... old blue was marginal in the rear window # department... # and omega never missed a beat, and neither has the '85 GW that lives in my # driveway... # # but I just can't bring myself to another wagoneer... the XJ and WJ hatches # make # more sense... # # someday someone will come up with a hatch mod for the wagoneer and I may have # another... the panel doors in the back would be nice, but the one I had was # horribly maintainted and rattled... # # superdawg has a nice simple tailgate... you put a hook through the # openings... # no levers, no fuss, no muss... :) and the tailgate doesn't come off... just # hangs down on chains... # # john # # # # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: the future of emissions testing in WA only 8 more years... or 4 more wasted trips... or another $120 or more... FROM: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015951255_emission19m.html State phasing out vehicle-emission testing New technology has led the state to begin easing up and eventually phasing out the state's emission-testing law. By Susan Gilmore A car's computers can tell you everything, such as how tightly your gas cap is fitting, what your fuel efficiency is and even what your wheel speed is to control the brakes. Now this new technology has an added bonus: It's part of the reason behind the easing up and eventually phasing out of the state's emission-testing law. Owners of newer cars will be exempted from the state Department of Ecology's testing program under new rules, adopted this week, that will go into effect in July 2012. All 2009 and newer cars won't have to undergo emission tests, and additional businesses, such as car dealerships, may be authorized to do the tests. The new rules eliminate some testing that is believed less relevant as vehicles become more fuel-efficient. The state now tests about 1 million cars a year, said John Raymond, a planner with the air-quality program with the Department of Ecology. The state already exempts from testing cars that are five years old or newer, so the new law won't really go into effect until 2014. That year the state expects to test just 88 percent of the state's vehicles, or 880,000. By 2019, when the program is scheduled to end, just 54 percent of the vehicles, or 544,000, will be tested. The state first began testing cars in 1981. But the state Legislature has not authorized a vehicle-emission program beyond 2019 because cars are expected to be clean enough by then that air quality won't be a problem, Raymond said. The changes are expected to save car owners and testing facilities about $19 million, according to the ecology department. Of the current $15 testing fee, $12 goes to the contracting agency that runs the station and $3 into the state's general fund, or about $3 million a year. Among the other rule changes: b" The state will no longer require testing of a vehicle's gas cap. Raymond said the car's computers will check on this and the testing is no longer required. That will save $2.5 million in equipment and staffing. b" People will be able to have their cars tested at a private testing station, such as an auto dealership, where there's no limit on what they can charge. Raymond said some owners may find it more convenient to have their car tested at a dealership and save a trip to an emission-testing station b^T even if it costs more money. That change is expected to save $8.5 million because the state expects maybe 10 percent of vehicle owners will opt for a private testing site. But it's also not clear whether the dealerships will want to invest in the expensive equipment needed to do the testing. b" Light-duty diesel trucks won't have to go through emission testing because they aren't big polluters. Raymond said less than 10 percent of vehicle owners fail the emissions test. If they do fail and spend at least $150 to try to get their cars to pass and still fail, the vehicle owner can get the emission test waived for that test cycle. Cars must go through emission testing every two years. The state doesn't plan to add more emission stations but may expand the hours at existing ones for convenience. Only vehicles in King, Pierce, Snohomish, Clark and Spokane counties, the state's most-populous counties, are required to go through emission testing. Seattle Times staff reporter quotes The worst part of getting a car tested was the hours available. Virtually impossible to... (August 18, 2011, by punkateer) Read more quotes About time. We wasted more fuel driving to and from these testing facilities than was ... (August 18, 2011, by Keep Trying) Read more quotes Date Line 2019: The State imposes a $3 per car vehicle 'Not Testing Anymore" tax... (August 18, 2011, by booger88) Read more Read all 78 comments > Post a comment > ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3313 *************************