From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Aug 23 16:45:51 2011 From: xj-digest xj-digest Tuesday, August 23 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3315 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Soon, all Diesel fleet Re: xj: put the popcorn down... Re: xj: put the popcorn down... xj: Re: [db] cars that won't die XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:51:58 +0000 From: john Subject: xj: Soon, all Diesel fleet She hasn't driven the 300D yet, so she's thinking it's mine. She wants me to put euro lights on it and the tint off the windows. She plans to drive the white jetta, smaller easier to drive. Since I like both it doesn't matter to me. Both have a/c, automatics and Diesels. :) So we now have a nice pair (set) of German Diesels. Superdawg will match my benz nicely color-wise. Likely scenario is she'll end up with the benz and me with the dawg. Works for me any one of the three possibilities. :). I can now see us going down to two nice, automatic, simple and reliable Diesels, both capable of wvo/biod use. The jetta has a computer, fussy fuel requirements. The sd33t and the om603 engines are both straight sixes with serviceable IPs. Have been into a 602 IP several times, the 603 is just one more set of o-rings. That om603.960 is good, so long as it's not overheated or damaged by the trap oxidizer. Trying to understand why the car was sold with leather seats but has mbtex. Will miss the little jetta wagon, it's a superb car with lots of power, economy and comfort. Won't miss the manual trans or front wheel drive. :) Guess this kind of preempts my desire to put an MB Diesel in a tj/wj/xj. Nice to know there are kits (koch engineering) to do it. And of course if anything happens to my 300D... - ------Original Message------ From: Terry-au To: J Subject: Sent: Aug 21, 2011 14:30 Nice looking Benz mate, knew it wouldn't be long before Becky got her coach back. Congrats Becky on your new car, hope you love it. Terry. __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 10:23:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Ed Kummel Subject: Re: xj: put the popcorn down... I love how the window sticker proclaims that this is a four-speed automatic transmission and that it actually does come with a torque converter...Hmm, I wonder if the wheels actually came with lug-nuts as well? Ed web/gadget guru - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Oh Yeah...That's the stuff!" Stewie Griffin, Family Guy ________________________________ From: john To: Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:55 AM Subject: xj: put the popcorn down... ...nothing to see here... just another car in the driveway... :) just bought a very nice 1987 Mercedes 300D... 238,000 miles... paint is better than what was on my '91 300D! the guy was the 2nd owner... has the original window sticker, purchased at Phil Smart here in Seattle! whoo hoo... a local car to boot!!! original windshield in it too... amazingly clean... http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/1987-300D-WA/ALL.html didn't really plan on buying it... was just going to look at it, then at another one on the way back home and another one on Monday... but it was just too good to pass up... before I knew it we were writing a check and signing papers... Selling one of the Jettas for home improvement projects... the 300D is not perfect... need to charge the a/c, the compressor was just replaced, the trip odometer, clock and outside temp don't work... but the cruise control did, all the windows, sunroof... has new bridgestone tires, new brembo slotted rotors and brakes, fresh fuel filters, only 238k miles on it... owner claims 37 highway, 35 mpg combined rural... it's the 3.0L I-6. The engine pulls steady and smooth, not as radical as the Jetta's TDIs, it's smoother and relentless... It may need shocks, it does float and wander a lot more than I remember my '91... but it doesn't have the expensive auto leveling system... so it's normal "shocks". Driving it home was like sitting in my leather recliner (even though it has MBTex ;). I'd forgotten that some cars can drive over manual covers without feeling them... We've decided to keep the white '02 Jetta TDI with the automatic for my wife. So it looks like my '03 Jetta TDI wagon will be going up for sale as soon as I get all my stuff out of it and the a/c working in the "new" benz. Hopefully will have it ready for sale by next weekend. The Silver 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon has a 5 speed, with a new 11mm pump, glow plugs, timing belt, water pump and fuel injectors (the Injection pump is 11mm vs. the stock 10mm so it has around 20% more power) It has gotten 48mpg with this new pump, it did about 52 mpg with the old pump. It averaged 45 mpg on the trip in May to Chicago cruising at the legal limit all the way even in the Rockies. Cruise and a/c and all electricals work as designed. Mechanically it's in outstanding condition and will roast the front tires. In 3rd gear you can go from 30 mph or so to 70 mph in a very short period of time... I call it the perfect merging gear. And there's two left after that one... I don't know when 4th ends... I know that passing at 70mph going up hill you can go from 5th to 4th and be doing over 90mph before your wife asks why you're going so fast... the tach wasn't near redline yet... in the Rockies, up hill!!! ...so someone without a wife needs to buy this and tell me what 4th and 5th gear top speeds are. :) It has the Panzer skid plate, and a new oil pan, new brakes in front, good tires, air lifts in the rear, a hitch, it's full leather (black) with the Monsoon stereo, GLS trim, heated seats... good tires, silverstar bulbs, moonroof, etc. Has the factory key fob for remote entry / alarm. It's been getting right around 40mpg on the commute to work. It's a great little car with just TWO issues: 1) it's a manual and there are times that my back has started to mess up and if I'd been stuck in traffic I would have had to pull over... that and my wife can't drive a stick... and then 2) it has about $2k in body damage... I've owned it for over a year and it's not extremely noticeable, and when someone asks and you say you bought it that way it's the end of the story. If it didn't have the damage I could ask close to $11k and likely get close to that... so I'm going to ask $8.5K. Delivery is possible for fuel/lodging and return tickets... ;) Oh, it has 145,000 miles on it. I'll miss it... but after just driving this '87 300D over 100 miles, not much... :) It is a german built estate... john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: Re: xj: put the popcorn down... those were optional... ;) yeah, it is kind of goofy that they'd mention that... what's more unusual is the original owners paid $1300 for leather seats... and apparently replaced them with the vinyl (mb tex) later... guess leather doesn't hold up as well. on the other hand, for my '83 J10 I found a nice pair of leather XJ seats out of a 2dr... they hold up for years... :) john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Mon, 22 Aug 2011, Ed Kummel wrote: # I love how the window sticker proclaims that this is a four-speed automatic # transmission and that it actually does come with a torque converter...Hmm, I # wonder if the wheels actually came with lug-nuts as well? # Ed # web/gadget guru # # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # "Oh # Yeah...That's the stuff!" # Stewie Griffin, Family Guy # ________________________________ # From: john # To: # Sent: # Sunday, August 21, 2011 1:55 AM # Subject: xj: put the popcorn down... # ...nothing to see here... just another car in the driveway... :) # # just # bought a very nice 1987 Mercedes 300D... 238,000 miles... paint is better than # what was on my '91 300D! # the guy was the 2nd owner... has the original window # sticker, purchased at Phil Smart here in Seattle! # whoo hoo... a local car to # boot!!! original windshield in it too... amazingly clean... # # # http://johnmeister.com/DieselBenz/CARS/1987-300D-WA/ALL.html # # didn't really # plan on buying it... was just going to look at it, then at another one on the # way back # home and another one on Monday... but it was just too good to pass # up... before I # knew it we were writing a check and signing papers... Selling # one of the Jettas for home improvement # projects... # # the 300D is not # perfect... need to charge the a/c, the compressor was just replaced, the # trip # odometer, clock and outside temp don't work... but the cruise control did, all # the windows, sunroof... has new bridgestone tires, new brembo slotted rotors # and brakes, # fresh fuel filters, only 238k miles on it... owner claims 37 # highway, 35 mpg combined # rural... it's the 3.0L I-6. The engine pulls steady # and smooth, not as radical as the Jetta's TDIs, # it's smoother and # relentless... It may need shocks, it does float and wander a lot more than # I # remember my '91... but it doesn't have the expensive auto leveling system... # so it's normal "shocks". # # Driving it home was like sitting in my leather # recliner (even though it has MBTex ;). # I'd forgotten that some cars can drive # over manual covers without feeling them... # # # We've decided to keep the white # '02 Jetta TDI with the automatic for my wife. So it # looks like my '03 Jetta # TDI wagon will be going up for sale as soon as I get all # my stuff out of it # and the a/c working in the "new" benz. Hopefully will have it ready for sale # by next weekend. # # The Silver 2003 Jetta TDI Wagon has a 5 speed, with a new # 11mm pump, glow plugs, timing belt, # water pump and fuel injectors (the # Injection pump is 11mm vs. the stock 10mm so it # has around 20% more power) It # has gotten 48mpg with this new pump, it did about 52 mpg # with the old pump. # It averaged 45 mpg on the trip in May to Chicago cruising at the # legal limit # all the way even in the Rockies. Cruise and a/c and all electricals work as # designed. # Mechanically it's in outstanding condition and will roast the front # tires. In 3rd gear you can # go from 30 mph or so to 70 mph in a very short # period of time... I call it the perfect merging gear. # And there's two left # after that one... I don't know when 4th ends... I know that passing at 70mph # going # up hill you can go from 5th to 4th and be doing over 90mph before your # wife asks why you're going so fast... # the tach wasn't near redline yet... in # the Rockies, up hill!!! ...so someone without a wife needs to # buy this and # tell me what 4th and 5th gear top speeds are. :) # # It has the Panzer skid # plate, and a new oil pan, new brakes in front, good tires, air lifts in the # rear, a hitch, it's full leather (black) with the Monsoon stereo, GLS trim, # heated seats... # good tires, silverstar bulbs, moonroof, etc. Has the factory # key fob for remote entry / alarm. # # It's been getting right around 40mpg on the # commute to work. It's a great little car with # just TWO issues: 1) it's a # manual and there are times that my back has started to mess up # and if I'd been # stuck in traffic I would have had to pull over... that and my wife can't # drive # a stick... and then 2) it has about $2k in body damage... I've owned it for # over a year # and it's not extremely noticeable, and when someone asks and you # say you bought it that # way it's the end of the story. If it didn't have the # damage I could ask close to $11k and # likely get close to that... so I'm going # to ask $8.5K. Delivery is possible for fuel/lodging and # return tickets... ;) # Oh, it has 145,000 miles on it. # # I'll miss it... but after just driving this # '87 300D over 100 miles, not much... :) # It is a german built estate... # # john # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps # and VWs don't rust, they mold # # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # http://JohnMeister.com # HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 16:45:06 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Re: [db] cars that won't die http://kiplinger.com/slideshow/cars_that_wont_die/11.html#top if we combine #8 with #11 then we'll really have something... :) ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, john wrote: # :) # # http://kiplinger.com/slideshow/cars_that_wont_die/8.html#top # # john # # ----- # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # -o|||||o- fahrvergnugen y'all # Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and VWs don't rust, they mold # http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 # http://JohnMeister.com HTTP://WAGONEERS.COM http://fotomeister.us # ------------------------------------------------------------------------ # # # On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, Doug Thorndike wrote: # # # http://kiplinger.com/slideshow/cars_that_wont_die/8.html#top # # # # # # Thorndike # # PO Box 1 # # Snohomish WA 98291 # ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3315 *************************