From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Tue Nov 8 18:19:00 2011 From: xj-digest To: xj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:19:34 +0000 Subject: xj-digest V1 #3336 xj-digest Wednesday, November 9 2011 Volume 01 : Number 3336 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Re: fsj: 6.2 v. 6.5 - other Diesels xj: List up to 1,000 auction style items on Ebay Nov 8 for free! xj: Digging up trans info for future swap possibilities. XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 16:26:48 +0000 From: john Subject: xj: Re: fsj: 6.2 v. 6.5 - other Diesels Yes, forums are a generally a wasteland. I haven't logged into the one lately but it had some good info. Dieselspace? Will find and share. The 6.2 is less complex, higher compression and more efficient. With a banks kit even better so I've been told. The 6.5 can make more power, lot more options and goodies for it. But it's lower compression and you have to relocate the ecu off the engine to the front, just costs money to buy the kit. I spent a lot of money trying to get my 6.5 to be economical, 16 in town was its best. Freeway maybe 18-19. The 6.2 in the same vehicle would get 18-19 and would break 20. In my GW on the freeway 24. In town 16. I was running biodiesel but still. A good XJ will get me 16-17 in town. My jetta tdi with an at gets 35. My mercedes will get mid-20s to low 30s in town. My jetta with a stick got around 40 in town. The sd33t in the scout with 235s, 3.54s and about the same weight/shape was rated 20/24. My tug was getting 18 or so with biod with the na sd33. The 6.2 is a detroit diesel. Can't think of major issues right now. Transmissions were a big concern. The 700r4 needed to be beefed up. With a Diesel you have options. Pump Diesel, bioDiesel, mix with wvo, heated wvo, and so on. I have gotten back under way when out of fuel with a half quart of motor oil!!! A step van with a 6.2 should have a good transmission. Put a 4x4 tailshaft on it and drop it in your waggy. :) Btw, selling both the 87 300d and my white J10 to fund the 02 jetta wagon. Looking forward to driving it. I liked my little wagon, but not the stick or damage. This time any mods will be aimed at increasing fuel economy. :). That 11mm pump in my 03 wagon was a blast though. Smoking the front tires was pretty cool. But I'll take the economy thank you. Fwiw, a tdi in stock trim (alh) will put out about 100hp and 150ftlbs. That should be enough to move an XJ around. Anyone know if there is a tdi to aw4 adapter? My daughter is selling her 97 xj, and a friend is selling his clean 89 xj. I just happen to have a tdi motor connected to a dead trans. However, in about a week I will be celebrating 36 years of marriage, and if I want it to continue to be the pleasant and happy experience it has been I think it wise to NOT use that particular tdi motor. :) Frankenjeepandjettajohn over and out. __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ - -----Original Message----- From: Michel Balea Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 07:58:18 To: Subject: Re: fsj: Why not... Good forums? it always seem like a wild chase to find a decent forum nowadays! You had the 6.2 on the waggy? thank you, M On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 7:54 AM, john wrote: > ** > 6.2 is better. Both are ok. Both have issues that aren't serious. There > are some good forums. > __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ > ------------------------------ > *From: * Michel Balea > *Date: *Mon, 7 Nov 2011 07:46:19 -0800 > *To: *john > *Subject: *Re: fsj: Why not... > > Forget the wrangler.... totally unsafe, and even a gas hog with the 2.5L. > > I need to poke your brain on the diesels, 6.2 vs. 6.5? that comes in a > step van! no frankenjeep, just utilitarian use. > > Michel > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, john wrote: > >> Decided to buy the silver 2002 jetta tdi wagon with the automatic that >> was rebuilt properly. Shifts better than my mercedes. I like the leather >> seats and the usefulness of the estate. There is a perfect place in the >> back for my tools. Time to order another Panzer plate. :) >> >> The white jetta tdi sedan is dead in the drive with the AAMCO special. >> Beautiful car, will get this straightened out. Aamco ain't touching this >> car again, but they are going to fix it. >> >> So it looks like the 87 300d needs a home, will have to drop the price, >> no way I'll get the 7500 plus I have in it despite the book value of 8300. >> It's nearly perfect now, but we simply haven't bonded. :). >> >> Guess I'm going to sell my spare 83 J10 as well. It's just sitting there. >> I don't need to drive if it snows and have chains for the jettas. I can >> rent a truck when I need one. It's beautiful, solid, rust free and even >> runs well. The exhaust sounds great. >> >> My wife still thinks I'm crazy for even thinking about a wrangler, have >> to agree. Even at 18mpg that's half what the jetta can do. And the jettas >> have much more in the way of creature comforts. Spider spikes will make >> sure we get through the rare snow here. >> >> One of these days my Diesel J10 will be done. >> >> So it's fleet change time again, keep your popcorn fresh. At least I'm >> not making any frankensteins, yet. :). Have some ideas, but I won't mention >> them now. :) >> >> >> __john_at_http://wagoneers.com__ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 23:06:55 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: List up to 1,000 auction style items on Ebay Nov 8 for free! http://announcements.ebay.com/2011/11/one-day-only-list-up-to-1000-items-auct ion-style-for-free-on-november-8/ Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 18:19:24 -0800 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: Digging up trans info for future swap possibilities. I just missed out on a Datsun LD28 motor complete for cheap (I even found a 4 speed O/D auto to go with it) because I was digging up more info before jumping on it. In the process I tripped over another diesel swap (maybe). Isuzu Troopers '88 to '91 with 2.6L 4 cyl use the A340H trans (same as the AW4 in Jeeps) IF the bell and flexplate, etc swaps to the diesel version (I see the RWD 2.2L turbo pup motors for sale a lot and they are cheap) If I go ahead with a diesel swap in my spare Comanche, I'll be looking at a UD (Nissan) RD28T from Canada and the trans I found for the LD28 I found a non-turbo Toyota diesel, but I think it's a gutless L motor (I'd sooner find a 2LT or 3L or 5L) Jim Blair, Lynnwood, WA '87 Comanche, '83 Jeep J10, '84 Jeep J10 ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3336 *************************