From owner-xj-digest-at-digest.net Mon Apr 16 12:28:00 2012 From: xj-digest To: xj-digest-at-digest.net Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 19:28:35 +0000 Subject: xj-digest V1 #3377 xj-digest Monday, April 16 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3377 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: Jeeps and Diesels - tech info xj: RE: [CJ-10List] Jeeps and Diesels - tech info xj: administrivia: notes on using this list xj: Back in the (AMC) saddle again! XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest-at-digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request-at-digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) From: john Subject: xj: Jeeps and Diesels - tech info # From: MICHAEL DROSTER # To: FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com # Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:32 PM # Subject: Re: [FSJ-List] AM GENERAL Jeep's ? # the CJ10 and some FSJ's got factory nissan diesels just don't recall the specs on them and theB AM GENERAL badged milspec A2 series # FSJ's got 5.7L I6 160hp/380tq isuzu turbo diesels . . . # # lots of Jeep's had diesels factoryB B Mike never heard of an FSJ with a 5.7L I-6 in the states... got any tech info? I've got every shop manual, brochure and book I could find... :) Never heard of such a thing stateside... maybe for export... sadly, Jeep did NOT offer many Diesels in the US. I may be missing a few, feel free to add to this short list: (recommend NOT replying all... thanx...) in the '60s there was a Perkins (?) option in the CJs. - typically cj-6 (almost bought one) '85-'87 - Renault 2.1L All Aluminum Turbo Diesel - had one - 26/32 mpg the KJ liberties '05-'07??? 2.8L VM Motori - considered... the WK GCs '07-08 - 3.0L CRD (I want one) of course the '80-'86 CJ-10As with the SD33/tf727-RV/-xfr case locked in low range - had an '86 http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/ here's a graph showing SD33 vs SD33T http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/633graph.gif if this thing had a/c I'd still own it, the guy won't sell it back to me: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/Diesel-options-Jeep.txt superdawg - still in pieces... project is moving at a glacial pace... getting an SD33T/TF727 - rv version NOT the one from an SJ/NP208 - 3.54 gears in D44 axles, 235's this is the same basic drivetrain in an '80 scout, epa rated 20/24 mpg http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-21april2011/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-Apr-2011/ALL.html http://fotomeister.us/2009/10-Oct-03-Centralia-SD33T-superdawg-tug/SD33T-tf72 7/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-83-J10-stepside/ http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-13-JettaRepair-SuperDawg-Centralia/ALL.html http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/ copius amounts of tech data on Scout Diesels. fwiw I have an extra SD33T that needs the IP rebuilt, have 2 extra IPs... an adapter for the manual trans to the SAE #4 adapter... western washington... make me an offer... http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/Nissan_Diesel_Engines_Sd22 - -Sd23-Sd25-Sd33.pdf http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/SD33T-specs .txt http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/StandardCat alogOf4x4sInfo-Scouts.txt http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/misc_scout_ links.txt http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/1980-Scout- Diesel-specs.txt http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/parts-for-sale-jun2011.txt http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/Automatic_SD33_SAE4/ I am considering a Benz Diesel in a Jeep... but hoping superdawg will get done in my lifetime and I'll call it good. ;) I forgot about Omega: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Omega/ had a 6.2L Diesel in him... it's out in Baltimore, MD now... http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html john ----- - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- b^\A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college educationb^] Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:19:02 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: RE: [CJ-10List] Jeeps and Diesels - tech info His is an AM General J20 Written laws are like spiders' webs, and will like them only Entangle and hold the poor and weak, while the rich and powerful will easily break through them ANACHARSIS Scythian philosopher (fl. 600 BC) > To: fsj-at-digest.net > CC: CJ-10List-at-yahoogroups.com; xj-at-digest.net; WJ-Grand-at-yahoogroups.com; FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com > From: john-at-wagoneers.com > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 10:10:44 -0700 > Subject: [CJ-10List] Jeeps and Diesels - tech info > > # From: MICHAEL DROSTER # To: FSJ-List-at-yahoogroups.com > # Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:32 PM # Subject: Re: [FSJ-List] AM GENERAL Jeep's ? > # the CJ10 and some FSJ's got factory nissan diesels just don't recall the specs on them and the AM GENERAL badged milspec A2 series > # FSJ's got 5.7L I6 160hp/380tq isuzu turbo diesels . . . > # > # lots of Jeep's had diesels factory Mike > > never heard of an FSJ with a 5.7L I-6 in the states... got any tech info? I've got every shop manual, > brochure and book I could find... :) Never heard of such a thing stateside... maybe for export... > > > sadly, Jeep did NOT offer many Diesels in the US. > > I may be missing a few, feel free to add to this short list: > (recommend NOT replying all... thanx...) > > in the '60s there was a Perkins (?) option in the CJs. - typically cj-6 (almost bought one) > '85-'87 - Renault 2.1L All Aluminum Turbo Diesel - had one - 26/32 mpg > the KJ liberties '05-'07??? 2.8L VM Motori - considered... > the WK GCs '07-08 - 3.0L CRD (I want one) > of course the '80-'86 CJ-10As with the SD33/tf727-RV/-xfr case locked in low range - had an '86 > http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/ > > > here's a graph showing SD33 vs SD33T > http://wagoneers.com/JEEPS/CJ-10A-misc/633graph.gif > > if this thing had a/c I'd still own it, the guy won't sell it back to me: > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/1986-CJ10A/0_best-of-CJ-10A.html > > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/Diesel-options-Jeep.txt > > superdawg - still in pieces... project is moving at a glacial pace... > getting an SD33T/TF727 - rv version NOT the one from an SJ/NP208 - 3.54 gears in D44 axles, 235's > this is the same basic drivetrain in an '80 scout, epa rated 20/24 mpg > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-21april2011/ALL.html > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-Apr-2011/ALL.html > http://fotomeister.us/2009/10-Oct-03-Centralia-SD33T-superdawg-tug/SD33T-tf72 7/ALL.html > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/SuperDawg-83-J10-stepside/ > http://fotomeister.us/2011/09-Sep-13-JettaRepair-SuperDawg-Centralia/ALL.html > http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/SuperDawg/ > > copius amounts of tech data on Scout Diesels. > > fwiw I have an extra SD33T that needs the IP rebuilt, have 2 extra IPs... an adapter > for the manual trans to the SAE #4 adapter... western washington... make me an offer... > > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/Nissan_Diesel_Engines_Sd22 - -Sd23-Sd25-Sd33.pdf > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/SD33T-specs .txt > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/StandardCat alogOf4x4sInfo-Scouts.txt > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/misc_scout_ links.txt > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/TECH_INFO_SD33/1980-Scout- Diesel-specs.txt > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/parts-for-sale-jun2011.txt > http://johnmeister.com/DIESELS/SD33T-and-IH-Scouts/Automatic_SD33_SAE4/ > > > I am considering a Benz Diesel in a Jeep... but hoping superdawg will get done in > my lifetime and I'll call it good. ;) > > I forgot about Omega: http://wagoneers.com/FSJ/rigs/Omega/ had a 6.2L Diesel in him... it's > out in Baltimore, MD now... > > http://wagoneers.com/johns-vehicles.html > > john > > ----- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -o|||||o- john-at- http://wagoneers.com TRSTGZS > Snohomish, Washington - where Jeeps and Diesels don't rust, they mold > buy direct: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ^SA thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education^T > Theodore Roosevelt (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919) > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > To View Pictures stored at the webiste go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CJ-10List and click "photos"Yahoo! 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This file may be found on the web at http://www.digest.net/general-notes.txt [last revised 5/1/02; removed list of spam strings, as i'm not the only one filtering on them -- rpw] Additional information on Digest.Net's spam policies may be found at http://www.digest.net/email-policy.html and http://www.digest.net/blocked.html Table of Contents 1. Why don't my postings go through? 2. Why can't I unsubscribe? 3. How do I post to the list? 4. Where are the archives? 5. What other lists are on digest.net? 6. Is there a web subscription form? 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? 8. How do I contact the server adminstrator in an emergency? 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? The Meta-FAQ 1. Why don't my postings go through? There are several things that may interfere with postings making it to the list. a) Are you a member? Some read the ftp archives rather than receiving the list in email. 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Where are the archives? see ftp://ftp.digest.net/ for digest archives. the web archives have proven problematic, and are awaiting time for a systematic attack on the problems they've been having. 5. What other lists are on digest.net? see http://www.digest.net/ for more information. 6. Is there a web subscription form? Yes, recently added. go to http://www.digest.net/bin/digest-subs.cgi 7. Why not move the lists to someplace like (egroups, topica,...)? The Krusty Motorsports server (aka, digest.net) was explicitly to provide for efficient management of the various automotive mailing lists, done the way that the owner of the server wanted it done. Any migration off of the server (which is already bought, paid for, and configured) would create any number of issues. 8. How do i contact the Server Administrator in an emergency? If my regular email address (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com) isn't working for you, you can fall back on rwelty-at-suespammers.org 9. What is Krusty Motorsports, anyway? Krusty Motorsports (http:/www.krusty-motorsports.com/) is a business which is owned and operated by Richard Welty (rwelty-at-krusty-motorsports.com). Krusty is an S-Corporation in the State of New York. Krusty provides a number of Internet related services, such as mailing list, web sites, pop3/telnet accounts, and consulting on internet related issues. For more information, see the web site. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 12:27:58 -0700 From: Jim Blair Subject: xj: Back in the (AMC) saddle again! After the past couple years of illness, I'm finally driving and AMC on the road again! My '81 Eagle wagon is drivable now (after paying over a year's storage on it and my '87 MJ) with a 727/NP229 upgrade from the 998/NP129. Next I plan to get my MJ functional and then the Honcho comes down for a drivetrain swap. If no-one buys the 360/T18A/NP208 soon, (while they can still hear it running for $500) then I'll sell the 290, AX15 NP231 I have and get a Ranger Overdrive that goes between the bell housing and trans of the T18 (where the factory spacer is) and keep it. I'd still like to swap the 360 for my 290 (less fuel, and let's face it. A stepside won't be doing major truck duties) In the meantime, I have the Eagle 998 Trans core (little brother to the 727 in Grand Wagoneers) up for $50 (converter went bad and puked the fluid) as well as the NP129 for $75. Once I move my 5th wheel one last time, my '81 C20 with 454/th400 will be up for sale ($900 with the 5th wheel hitch or $700 without) along with my '03 E250 van $5000 (paid $4500 for the new Trans a year ago, but I need a bigger van for rolling storage and going to swap meet) And my Comanche short box 4x4 4.0L/AW4/NP242 lifted on 33/9.50/15s with a canopy will be up for $3000. ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3377 *************************