From owner-xj-digest@digest.net Thu Dec 13 15:33:54 2012 From: xj-digest To: xj-digest@digest.net Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 23:33:21 +0000 Subject: xj-digest V1 #3447 xj-digest Thursday, December 13 2012 Volume 01 : Number 3447 Forum for Discussion of XJ cherokees and wagoneers Brian Colucci Digest Coordinator Contents: xj: [db] Mandatory automotive black boxes by 2014 (fwd) xj: look ma, no training wheels... XJ Digest Home Page: http://www.digest.net/jeep/xj/ Send submissions to xj-digest@digest.net Send administrative requests to xj-digest-request@digest.net To unsubscribe, include the word unsubscribe by itself in the body of the message, unless you are sending the request from a different address than the one that appears on the list. Include the word help in a message to xj-digest-request to get a list of other majordomo commands. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:06:44 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: [db] Mandatory automotive black boxes by 2014 (fwd) big brother will be watching, y'all don't speed now... are at least during the last 30 seconds before the crash... ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - Trust Jesus - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: jjs3rd@ix.netcom.com To: diesel-benz@digest.net Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:30:11 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Subject: [db] Mandatory automotive black boxes by 2014 Am I the only one that finds the mandatory installation of automotive black boxes to be disturbing? http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/07/white-house-clears-way-for-nhtsa-to-mandate-vehicle-black-boxes/ I'm anything but a Luddite, and in fact love technology, but very much enjoy driving a reliable low tech 1987 Mercedes diesel. In fact as many of you know the minimum amount of electronics in our cars seems to cause the majority of annoying issues. I say annoying as they still drive but things like windows dont go down. It will be a real shame when the black box mysteriously shorts out after being installed. J ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 15:32:41 -0800 (PST) From: john Subject: xj: look ma, no training wheels... pretty cool... but two questions: 1) can it pull a wheelie 2) what happens if the batteries die? does it just fall over then? 3) ok, one more question... why not put a small Diesel generator in the thing for unlimited range? J maybe drop a TDI engine in the back... :) then set it up to attach to a reciever hitch and use it as a spare... :) http://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/lit-c1-bets-future-driving-gyro-balanced-two-212825259.html ----- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -o|||||o- Linux: the choice of a GNU generation http://WAGONEERS.COM Snohomish, WA- where Jeeps don't rust, they mold ...shop AMSOIL directly at: http://AMSOIL.com/redirect.cgi?zo=283461 - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A thorough knowledge of the Bible is worth more than a college education" Theodore Roosevelt (26th President (1901-09), 1858-1919) - Trust Jesus - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of xj-digest V1 #3447 *************************