Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 21:01:30 -0400 From: Jack Jacques <ozwine-at-dnet.net> Subject: Re: Why a GW is better than a Scout! > 3.3 liter turbo-charged Chrysler-Nissan marine diesel engine with a > 300,000 > mile guarantee and always got 29 mpg no matter how you drove it > (which was > usually floored and praying for more power). It had 2 batteries and > still > wouldn't start at Tahoe in the winter. It took 14 quarts of oil and > 2 > filters for a change that was supposed to be performed every 2500 > miles. > That's right, a full case of oil wasn't enough for an oil change. > The high > > > --------------------------------------------------- Mike, I appreciate your comments. Our big truck is a Dodge 2500 4X4 w/Cummins TurboDiesel. I've used it to pull pine tree stumps. But- in our family, the transportation of choice is the '89GW. By the way, 14 qts is about right. Buy stock in Rotella. Jack[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 19:15:13 -0700 From: Gordon McKenzie <gordmck-at-direct.ca> Subject: Re: LPG and CNG Jeff Gunn wrote: > > I think with LPG they just tee the fuel line and add a switch so you can > run off either gas or LPG. CNG conversion is much more expensive. > There are probably shops in the phone book that you can call, although I > have never done it myself. Had a buddy with a Chevy pickup with LPG and > Gasoline. He swore by it. > Was told by one shop that they couldn't do this as there isn't enough height under the hood to fit the dual fuel setup. As well, I was told that you get about 80% of the economy from LPG then gas, in Kelowna LPG is about 70& of the price of gas so the cost savings wouldn't pay for the install for a number of years. Gord[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 19:55:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org> Subject: Re: In need of info (Edelbrock vs. Carter) At 08:26 AM 4/9/97 -0500, you wrote: >The Carter and Edelbrock are identical. The only difference is that >Edelbrock selects a particular jet/metering rod combination based on >their Performer intake/cam/lifter/carb specs. The ironic thing is that >the Edelbrock is probably setup for a small block Chevy, so it is quite >probable that you would have to tune it anyway for your application. I >bought the Edelbrock, and it's a good carb, but if I had it to do over >I'd buy the Carter and use the $$$ I saved to buy a tuning kit ($30-$60 >depending where you get it). > not to flog this to death, Jeff, but is yours a 'stock' manifold? any spacers/adaptors under there. Also what sort of mileage do you get from it. The only reason I'd like to do this is because I've heard the edelbrock/carter is easy to set up and gives good mileage compared to the motorcraft. thanks mick[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 22:55:53 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: I'm Back Hidy-Ho Good Neighbors, I'm back after a week of being "Net-less", my ISP went belly up and I made a mad dash to locate a new dependable server. If anyone sent me any mail to old address, please resend as it is probably in never-never land. I will soon have a new web page up and will post the url. Michael has kept me posted on the recent carb thread, as I just got a Edelbrock Performer for my 360. I am kinda looking for a carb. The recent talk of the Carter AFB has me looking at the Chevy 300hp 327 in the garage....it has an AFB on top. It would certainly make my wife's day if I told her I was able to use something that I had kept around for several years :-) C'ya Joe- ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 23:23:28 -0500 From: John R Williams <johnwil1-at-prairie.nodak.edu> Subject: Re: In need of info Hey to everyone talking about putting an Eldabrock carb on all I did was unbolt the motorcrap and bolt on the eldabrock, there is a black plastic or at least I think its plastic insulator then a thick insulator made of some type of fiber. You will have to make the secondary holes in the fiber spacer larger to accomadate the larger butterfly on the Eldabrock. You need to leave the spacer and the plastic insulater in place as they keep the carb from picking up to much heat off the motor and vapor locking I love my Eldabrock better response not much more fuel econmy but then I should probably keep my foot out off it. ============================================================================ ========== At 07:06 PM 4/9/97 EDT, you wrote: >John R Williams <johnwil1-at-prairie.nodak.edu> writes: > > >> your not looking at the right carb let me look what mine is and I'll let >you know later > << > > John, just the man we've been looking for! Check-out what's under your >Edelbrock and tell us please? Is it bolted directly to the intake manifold? >Does it have a plastic spacer? Aluminum adapter? > > Generally you can tell if it is an adapter or a spacer by whether or not the >studs the carb. are bolted to seem to line-up with the semi-round casting >bosses below the mounting flange on the intake manifold. > > Where are you in ND? (hopefully I haven't asked that before!). Hope you're >staying dry. BTW, I graduated from UND in 1989. > > -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter > From Reno, NV USA on 09-Apr-1997 > >!^NavFont01F000DMGqHGzMG78HIr5277 > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > THUNDER AND LIGHTING ON THE PRAIRIE 75,76 JEEP WAGONEER 77 JEEP J-10 JEEP RULES FOREVER IF IT'S NOT A JEEP IT'S JUST ANOTHER IMITATION OF A REAL 4X4 LONG LIVE THE FSJ[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 00:19:33 -0500
From: Jim Weisflock <mrmonk-at-basec.net>
Subject: Re: A Funny Thing Happened....
Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello wrote:
> Then, after he had gone elsewhere, I was at a traffic light, in the middle
> lane... I now know how it feels to be an Oreo cookie... on my left, a
> black brand-new Grand Cherokee... on my right, a black XJ Cherokee... we
> all rolled out windows down and holler "Oreo" at the same time!
Great story, sounds like something you'd see in a Seinfeld episode!
*laughs*
>
> Maybe one of you AMC gurus can explain this one to me... there's this
> GORGEOUS yellow Javelin (driven by a foxy blonde, no less... <grin>) in
> the neighborhood... 390 engine, orange rear spoiler and stripe across the
> nose... it says AMX, but it's a four-seater... I can't remember if they
> continued the AMX as a regular Javelin after they discontinued the little
> two seaters or not... I think they did, but one of you AMC gurus gotta
> help me out... ok, guys, could it be real, or is it a clone? I haven't
> talked to the owner, so I don't know what year it is. I seem to recall
> that '71 was the last year for the real AMX, '72 the AMX was just a trim
> package for the Javelin... is that right?
70 was the last year for the original 2 seat AMX. 70 was also the last
year for the 390 engine and the Javelin's mostly original body style.
In 70 there was no AMX trim for the Javelin, just the Mark Donahue trim.
In '71 they came out with the AMX trim package for the Javelin and
redesigned the body with huge front wheel fender bulges and made the car
alot bigger. Motors were the 6 banger, 304 V8, two 360 V8s, and the
monster 401 motor, no 390... What body style Javelin did you see? It
had to be a '71 - '74 if it said AMX on it. The motor would be a 360 or
401 most likely, and you mistook it for a 390, unless that foxy blonde
swapped it in there. ;)
*drool* reminds me of a Javelin ride I've been eyeing in Cali lately...
Oh so sweet... I need one before I get too old...
James R.
~* the youngest AMC/Jeep freak! *~
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 21:41:36 -0700 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: FW: Electric Engine Fans At 04:08 PM 4/9/97 -0500, you wrote: > > >>---------- >>From: Jeff Herbst >>Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 1997 1:47 PM >>To: 'fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com' >>Subject: Electric Engine Fans >> >>Thinking about replacing the engine fan with one of these electrical fans >>that mount to the radiator. They marketing poop claims lot's of good things. >>Has anyone had any experience with these? >> Jeff, I run 2 electric fans on my 72 Ford Drag Racer. They work very well, but they do drag down the battery when you shut off the motor. Jim 79/83 FrankenJeep[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 22:38:05 -0700 From: "Allan Weidenheimer" <allanw-at-pacific.telebyte.com> Subject: Clock wiring Here it is from my '84 wiring diagram: Black = Ground Yellow = Ignition On Orange = Illumination (dimmer controlled inst lamps) White = Light Switch (on with Headlamps and parking lights) Red w/trace = +12V all the time I would highly suggest buying the wiring diagram for your FSJ. I have transferred the FSJ data from the order form I received with mine to a web page: http://pacific.telebyte.com/allanw/fsjmanul.html Wiring diagrams are only listed for 84 and later, but you can always call and ask, it is an 800 number. The ones that are listed are only $8. Yes, that's eight bucks, less than the cost of a Chilton's fish wrapper. BTW, the Chilton's PROFESSIONAL series are still good manuals, from what I hear. But you won't find those at your local Autozone. Allan Weidenheimer 84 GW[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 00:56:55 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: FSJ Decal Update Hello, First off, Frank, Imo, Sune, your decals are in the mail. Secondly, Doc, received your order yesterday. They go out tomorrow. Now to the embarrassing part....last week I received two orders, I don't remember from who, I have mis-laid them. Please speak up and I'll pop em in the mail. I'll find them in one of my piles-o-paper. :-) For new guys, I still have about 65 of the vinyl FSJ Decals available. They are 4" x 6" and cost $3 each. A sample is on display at John's ORC page (I think). My page is down for a few days. If interested, please e-mail me direct for details. C'ya Joe- 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:57:14 -0400
From: Curtis Beebe <CBeebe-at-PBSNET.com>
Subject: U Joints
My '89 GW with 83K miles has started making U-Joint noises....thunk when
I apply power, a bit more roll in park before stopping, etc. Is there
anything else I should have the mechanic do when I have him replace the
joints? Any particular brand name or spec of joint I should specify?
Everything else (tranny, transfer case, diffs) seem to be fine. Thanks,
Curtis
[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:54:12 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Dreaming of Super Wagoneers Very strange but completely true. I had this dream last night that I was with my wife and kids, in a country cafe, somewhere in Lawrence County, Tennessee (I live in Northern Alabama). Among the things *inside*, was a SuperWagoneer for sale! I recall that there were two guys with the hood up trying to get the engine started, which I remember clearly was a 327 though I don't know how I knew that. When I looked in the engine compartment however, the engine was sitting on the ground and had no carburetor?! I can't remember what the exhaust or drivetrain was doing but there was no fan. One of the guys was dripping gas directly into the manifold where the carb should have been, and the other was in the Wag turning it over. Seems like they got it to sputter a few times. Walking around the vehicle, I began to see (as dreams will do) an increasing (changing?) amount of damage to the sheet metal and what had looked like a good prospect when I walked in, transformed into a pile of junk. I asked the seller how much he wanted for it and he said $8700! I thought that sounded a bit steep for something in this bad of condition but nevertheless- and this is the honest truth- I got his name and number so I could forward it to the people on the FSJ list. Sorry, but I didn't write it down! I gotta get out more often... John Brewer "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:49:51 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Dreaming of Super Wagoneers Very strange but completely true. I had this dream last night that I was with my wife and kids, in a country cafe, somewhere in Lawrence County, Tennessee (I live in Northern Alabama). Among the things *inside*, was a SuperWagoneer for sale! I recall that there were two guys with the hood up trying to get the engine started, which I remember clearly was a 327 though I don't know how I knew that. When I looked in the engine compartment however, the engine was sitting on the ground and had no carburetor?! I can't remember what the exhaust or drivetrain was doing but there was no fan. One of the guys was dripping gas directly into the manifold where the carb should have been, and the other was in the Wag turning it over. Seems like they got it to sputter a few times. Walking around the vehicle, I began to see (as dreams will do) an increasing (changing?) amount of damage to the sheet metal and what had looked like a good prospect when I walked in, transformed into a pile of junk. I asked the seller how much he wanted for it and he said $8700! I thought that sounded a bit steep for something in this bad of condition but nevertheless- and this is the honest truth- I got his name and number so I could forward it to the people on the FSJ list. Sorry, but I didn't write it down! I gotta get out more often... John Brewer "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 07:34:29 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Dreaming of Super Wagoneers Very strange but completely true. I had this dream last night that I was with my wife and kids, in a country cafe, somewhere in Lawrence County, Tennessee (I live in Northern Alabama). Among the things *inside*, was a SuperWagoneer for sale! I recall that there were two guys with the hood up trying to get the engine started, which I remember clearly was a 327 though I don't know how I knew that. When I looked in the engine compartment however, the engine was sitting on the ground and had no carburetor?! I can't remember what the exhaust or drivetrain was doing but there was no fan. One of the guys was dripping gas directly into the manifold where the carb should have been, and the other was in the Wag turning it over. Seems like they got it to sputter a few times. Walking around the vehicle, I began to see (as dreams will do) an increasing (changing?) amount of damage to the sheet metal and what had looked like a good prospect when I walked in, transformed into a pile of junk. I asked the seller how much he wanted for it and he said $8700! I thought that sounded a bit steep for something in this bad of condition but nevertheless- and this is the honest truth- I got his name and number so I could forward it to the people on the FSJ list. Sorry, but I didn't write it down! I gotta get out more often... John Brewer "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:18:05 -0400 From: Jack Jacques <ozwine-at-dnet.net> Subject: Stalling on turns Folks, When I first joined there was a thread on stalling on turns. My wife has has two episode of stalling on a hard right turn. Is there a float problem? I seem to remember this was a topic about a month ago. As you might imagine, this is a major problem on tight two lane mountain roads. Any help will be appreciated. Jack[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 06:38:52 -0400 From: "Matthew H. Davidson" <mhargus-at-pipeline.com> Subject: Re: Look at my rear end. > >Pretty interesting. I don't have a clue what is happening, but give us some >numbers and I'll go measure mine (an 82 wag). > >-brad > > Brad, I am not sure where the measurement is supposed to be from, but I measured from the edge of the backing plates. My '82 has a measurement of 53 3/4" and the '83 has a measurement of 51 1/4 ". Both axles have the same backing plates and drums. mhargus-at-pipeline.com mhargus-at-pipeline.com Just my luck: Finally got a REAL Jeep and all my friends call it a station wagon![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:19:49 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: InfoWeek
actually, John, not on the listserv, we, or at least I, don't, please.
Private email is cool, and thanks.
>
>let me know if you don't want to see these Information Week
>newsletters...
>
>later,
>john
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 22:06:21 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: Brad's eye
Ok, so I'm still a week behind on digests... Brad, you ok, I hope?
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 22:04:36 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: Ferd Power!
Brad! Dr. Scott! Rocky? UG!
302 w/ Hipo 289 heads! ruff! Gotta talk to ya about that motor.... got
my interest... <grin>.
Let's do it off the list, though... we don't want to aggravate anybody
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:43:13 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: A Funny Thing Happened.... Doc, on the AMX/Javelin thing. The two-seater AMXs were produced from 1968 to 1970. In 1971 the AMX became a trim package on the 4-seater Javelin. This is also the first year of the 304 and 401 engine sizes. In 1972 they switched to TorqueFlite transmissions instead of the old cast iron models. You can tell if it's a 71, 72 or 73-74 from the tail lights. 71 has a single long light bar across the back with a back-up light in the center. 72 has the same setup but with a grate across it, like a cross hatch. 73 and 74 have two square with rounded edges on each side. Any other questions? Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 08:50:22 -0500 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Dreaming of Super Wagoneers Very strange but completely true. I had this dream last night that I was with my wife and kids, in a country cafe, somewhere in Lawrence County, Tennessee (I live in Northern Alabama). Among the things *inside*, was a SuperWagoneer for sale! I recall that there were two guys with the hood up trying to get the engine started, which I remember clearly was a 327 though I don't know how I knew that. When I looked in the engine compartment however, the engine was sitting on the ground and had no carburetor?! I can't remember what the exhaust or drivetrain was doing but there was no fan. One of the guys was dripping gas directly into the manifold where the carb should have been, and the other was in the Wag turning it over. Seems like they got it to sputter a few times. Walking around the vehicle, I began to see (as dreams will do) an increasing (changing?) amount of damage to the sheet metal and what had looked like a good prospect when I walked in, transformed into a pile of junk. I asked the seller how much he wanted for it and he said $8700! I thought that sounded a bit steep for something in this bad of condition but nevertheless- and this is the honest truth- I got his name and number so I could forward it to the people on the FSJ list. Sorry, but I didn't write it down! I gotta get out more often... John Brewer "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 08:09:00 PDT From: "Jandrt, Rick" <rjandrt-at-msgate.litc.lockheed.com> Subject: [No Subject] >(always looking at the bottom line... not sure why, Old Blue is paid for >and gas isn't astronomical... certainly cheaper than paying $20,000 or >more for a decent economy car or newer Jeep...) >It's the Bohemian in me I think... :) > >later, >john Hey John, I'm a full fledge, card carrying Bohemian also!!! Rick(chocolate moose) rjandrt-at-msgate.litc.lockheed.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:17:51 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: In need of info (Edelbrock vs. Carter) On Apr 9, 9:55pm, Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney wrote: > Subject: Re: In need of info (Edelbrock vs. Carter) > At 08:26 AM 4/9/97 -0500, you wrote: > > not to flog this to death, Jeff, but is yours a 'stock' manifold? any > spacers/adaptors under there. > Also what sort of mileage do you get from it. The only reason I'd like to do > this is because I've heard the > edelbrock/carter is easy to set up and gives good mileage compared to the > motorcraft. > thanks > mick > >-- End of excerpt from Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney Yeah, I forgot to mention that it was an Edelbrock manifold too. The carb was really easy to setup. In fact, I just bolted it on and didn't even tune it at all for a couple years (don't ask, I was younger and more foolish then). You just buy metering rods and jets, take off the air horn (1 or 2 minutes), swap out what you have for what you want, and put the air horn back on. You don't have to remove anything below the fuel level so it won't leak after tuning it all day (or all week month or year). I never calculated the mileage, but I think it was around 15 mpg from a 304 3-spd with headers, duals, stock ignition (my weak link at the time) in a '71 Javelin. I kept my foot in it most of the time by the way. Let me just say that I would put an Edelbrock intake/carb combo on any small block I owned. It even made the Javelin SOUND better! Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:45:17 -0500 From: kenc-at-softthought.com (Ken Cyr) Subject: Re: Electric Engine Fan >------------------------------ >Date: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 16:10:46 -0500 >From: Jeff Herbst >Subject: Electric Engine Fan > >Thinking about replacing the engine fan with one of these electrical >fans that mount to the radiator. They marketing poop claims lot's of >good things. Has anyone had any experience with these? Jeff, I'm running an electric fan in my '89 GW. The best source of electric fans I could find: G&S International P.O. Box 1429 West Caldwell, NJ 07007 1-800-828-0920 They have 3 lines of fans, for primary cooling go with Category 3 only. I bought the 18" Turbo Puller model, here are the specs: Model 8025/ARG CFM 2200 RPM 2100 Amp 19.0 W 17 1/2" H 15 5/8" D 4 1/2" This model is rated for engine CID of 390 to 720 and can only be installed behind the radiator. I paid about $150 and the unit is covered by a lifetime warranty. I installed the fan to operate fully automatically, using a relay triggered by both the air conditioning compressor and an engine temperature switch. At first I used a 30 amp inline fuse, but this fuse would blow sometimes when the fan switched on, so I replaced the fuse with a section of fuseable link As far as cooling ability, this fan is impressive. In the worst driving conditions (100 + heat, pulling a large trailer), the temperature gauge has yet to climb past half way. -Ken Cyr[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:08:32 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: I'm Back On Apr 9, 10:55pm, Joe Sego wrote: > Subject: I'm Back > > > Michael has kept me posted on the recent carb thread, as I just > got a Edelbrock Performer for my 360. I am kinda looking > for a carb. The recent talk of the Carter AFB has me looking > at the Chevy 300hp 327 in the garage....it has an AFB on top. > It would certainly make my wife's day if I told her I was able > to use something that I had kept around for several years :-) > > >-- End of excerpt from Joe Sego Do it! Just pick up a rebuild kit, it'll only take an hour or so, and you'll be in business. Then you can tell everyone how happy you are with the Carter (I know you're gonna like it!). Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 11:01:51 -0400 From: John Esposito <espos-at-compuserve.com> Subject: brushguard I hate to ask because it has probably been asked already, but... Are there any more of those Brushguards? It is one of my wish list items. Alfred J. Esposito espos-at-compuserve.com '89 Grand Wagoneer '83 Wagoneer - Going soon[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:46:01 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: ALL CAPS, THE WHY... Brian, glad to have ya in CAPS or littles! Welcome to the list. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:28:33 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: Re: Trac-lok or "Locker" On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Eric Faust wrote: > My current R&P gears are 2.72:1. Since I'll be goin' in and > replaceing seals and bearings anyway, it seems like a good time to > change this. I'm thinking somewhere between 3.73 and 4.11:1 with 31" > Mud Terrains. John, you're running 2.72:1, have you thought about > changing ratios or do you think it's not necessary. Now that I've got > my Toyota pickup back I'm not quite as concerned about fuel economy any > more. Thanks. > > -- > Eric Faust e-mail ericfa-at-ixpres.com Eric, If you are going to use it off-road alot I'd go with the 4.10s. If it's going to see most of it's time on the road or around town i'd go with 3.73s. I had 3.73s with my 33s and they were great around town. My 4.56s that i'm running now are great offroad but they really rev the engine on the highway. My top speed now with 35s and the 4.56s is 65MPH at 3200RPMs, NOT good for gas miliage on long trips!!! Brian[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:38:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney <karaandmick-at-mail.telis.org> Subject: Re: In need of info (Edelbrock vs. Carter) At 09:17 AM 4/10/97 -0500, you wrote: >Yeah, I forgot to mention that it was an Edelbrock manifold too. AHA!, cool, well, thanks for the info, Now I've got to find out whether or not the edelbrocks are exact copies of the carter, which should be cheaper. >Let me just say that I would put an Edelbrock intake/carb combo on any >small block I owned. It even made the Javelin SOUND better! Ohh, I can hardly wait for my tax refund! thanks mick[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 09:50:41 -0700 From: swhitney-at-presto.GIS.Pima.GOV. (Steve Whitney) Subject: Re: In need of info John R Williams: What model of Edelbrock carb do you have on your 401? Thanks for the info, its been very enlightening! I think I've finally got my 4350 tuned! Ended up drilling a new set of holes in the throttle cable bracket so that it could be moved back toward the firewall thereby allowing the throttle to be fully opened by the gas pedal. I must commend the factory service manual again! I followed those procedures (as opposed to the re-build kit's, which I first followed with poor results) and the engine fired up on the first turn of the key! I would strongly recommend that anyone who is going to be doing their own work on their FSJ invest in a set of factory service manuals (even if they are photocopied, like mine), they have proven to be an invaluable resource to me every time I even look at my Wag! I got mine from Irv Bishko for $69, (216) 338-4811. c-ya, Whit. Steve Whitney, '78 Wag Tucson, AZ swhitney-at-gis.pima.gov > > Hey to everyone talking about putting an Eldabrock carb on all I did was > unbolt the motorcrap and bolt on the eldabrock, there is a black plastic or > at least I think its plastic insulator then a thick insulator made of some > type of fiber. You will have to make the secondary holes in the fiber > spacer larger to accomadate the larger butterfly on the Eldabrock. > > You need to leave the spacer and the plastic insulater in place as they keep > the carb from picking up to much heat off the motor and vapor locking > I love my Eldabrock better response not much more fuel econmy but then I > should probably keep my foot out off it. >[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:04:27 -0700 From: swhitney-at-presto.GIS.Pima.GOV. (Steve Whitney) Subject: Re: Stalling on turns My Wag would stall on hard right turns too, I was planning to re-build the carb anyway and when I took it apart, the plastic composite spacer under the carb had a crack clear through on one side, so when the engine was warm (when isn't it!) that crack would open up and cause a vacuum leak. I'm still trying to correlate the side of the crack and the stalling only on right-hand turns relationship, but I bet that was the problem. You didn't mention if it stalled on left-hand turns too. If it did, I would think it might be a float problem. Bottom line, though, is that vacuum leaks at the carb can cause all kinds of problems. Try tightening all carb connections first and check for vacuum leaks. If this doesn't solve the problem, you may have to dig into the carb further. Or someone else on the list may provide another angle (that's the beauty of having over 100 FSJ nuts in contact!). c-ya, Whit. Steve Whitney, '78 Wag Tucson, AZ swhitney-at-gis.pima.gov > > Folks, > When I first joined there was a thread on stalling on turns. My wife has > has two episode of stalling on a hard right turn. Is there a float > problem? > I seem to remember this was a topic about a month ago. > As you might imagine, this is a major problem on tight two lane mountain > roads. > Any help will be appreciated. >[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 10:46:59 -0700
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: InfoWeek
read ahead doc, I pushed the wrong button and profusely apologized
on the list... that seemed like weeks ago!!! :)
BTW, I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT YOU GOT YOUR PHONE TURNED BACK ON!!! Good
for you! Hope your good fortune continues.
I'm outta work again. I got laid off on Monday. This company is not
what they billed it to be... Oh well. I'm still able to draw my unemployment
at the max from years at Boeing. $365 a week doesn't go very far for very
long though... It barely covers the mortgage. Looks like I'd better get
that little jeep fixed and sold and lean on my flaky friend Tom to pay me
my three grand. Sheesh, with friends like that who needs government??? :)
ttyl,
john
At 08:19 AM 4/10/97 -0400, Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello wrote:
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> actually, John, not on the listserv, we, or at least I, don't, please.
>Private email is cool, and thanks.
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>>let me know if you don't want to see these Information Week
>>newsletters...
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>>later,
>>john
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:56:15 -0500 From: "Dave Read"<DSREAD-at-hewitt.com> Subject: Re: ALL CAPS, THE WHY... in reply to versicom's memo >SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS; BUT I AM FORCED TO WRITE MY E-MAIL ON A VT100 UNIX SERVER. THEN I HAVE TO PORT IT THROUGH A VAX TO A WINDOWS SERVER RUNNING THE FREEBIE JUNO PACKAGE. This sounds like the computer version of Chrysler selling a Willys body design with a Ford carburetor, AMC engine, Chrysler transmission, and GM brake parts. Welcome to the FSJ list!! Dave Chicago, IL[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 12:06:22 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: Re: ALL CAPS, THE WHY... On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Dave Read wrote: > > This sounds like the computer version of Chrysler selling a Willys body > design with a Ford carburetor, AMC engine, Chrysler transmission, and GM > brake parts. > > Welcome to the FSJ list!! > > Dave > Chicago, IL Why does this sound so familiar????? =8) Brian[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 14:15:06 -0400
From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net>
Subject: Re: 360 Pinging tech tip
Dan? Dan who? Oh (had to look) - Dan the 87 'gw man! You know, I have
no earthly idea who that is.... none at all... but I'll forward this to
the list, maybe whoever it is will fess up.
At 09:53 AM 4/10/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi. In the 360 Pinging Problems tip, Dan mentions ALLDATA. However, I
>cannot find what ALLDATA is. Will you help?? I would ask Dan, but he
>doesn't list an E-Mail address in his post.
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>Thanks,
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>Chris Felicetti
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 13:24:00 PDT From: "Jandrt, Rick" <rjandrt-at-msgate.litc.lockheed.com> Subject: Which Engine Should I Rebuild? I have both a 71 and 77 360. I've seen posts on horsepower ratings for the engines, can't remember what it is for these two. Anyway, which of these two engines should I rebuild, or doesn't it make any difference? Is the rated horsepower the same for them? Both are in about the same shape about 130,000 miles. Planned replacements are cam, timing chain and gears, valve job, main and rod inserts, and new rings, but no pistons. Can't afford a bore job and new pistons. Hope someone can help. Thanks!! Rick(chocolate moose) rjandrt-at-msgate.litc.lockheed.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:18:35 -0400 From: Dave Britton <britton-at-tridsys.com> Subject: Re: Stalling on turns I was the one that brought up the problem of "stalling on turns". I still haven't fixed it. Come to think of it I can't remember if I have ever stalled turning left. The only ones I can remember explicitly (out of many many stalls), I was turning right. I'm thinking of just buying a rebuilt carb from PepBoys (rebuilt by Holly) for $199 with a one year warranty instead of paying someone to rebuild mine. Dave Britton '83 Wagoneer Ltd.[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 97 12:53:45 -0700 From: bks-at-co.intel.com Subject: Re: Look at my rear end. Matthew H. Davidson wrote: > Brad, I am not sure where the measurement is supposed to be from, but I > measured from the edge of the backing plates. My '82 has a measurement of 53 > 3/4" and the '83 has a measurement of 51 1/4 ". Both axles have the same > backing plates and drums. Okay, I'm not sure exactly where the edge of the backing plate is, so I measured between the inside of the rear brake drums. I got 52". I think if I would have measured between the innermost parts of the backing plates it would have been close to your 51.25" in your 82. Mine's an 82 wag, built in sept 81. The 53.75 doesn't match with the widetracks either. Its too narrow. I think they were about 4" wider than the wags. Your model 20 rearend isn't out of a pacer or gremilin or something else is it?? (I have no idea how wide those were. I imagine AMC used the model 20 in all it's cars.) My shop manual gives the following for wagonerr track widths: 59.4 Front 57.8 Rear These are hard to relate to your axel width though because I think track width is effected by rim offset.[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 15:15:50 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Which Engine Should I Rebuild? The horsepower between the two should be the same. The charts on the FSJ pages say the 71-72 360 2bbl has 245 hp/365 ft-lbs torque and that the 73-78 360 2-bbl has 175 hp/285 ft-lbs torque. The reason the 71-72 is higher is due to the way the auto manufacturers rated HP up until 1973. They listed it as GROSS HP, ie. no accessories, no drivtrain, just what was needed to make the engine run. In 1973 they switched to NET HP, which is what you get at the wheels. Every motor looked like it lost some serious ponies in 1973, but it's just a numbers game. The one thing you might have to consider is what transmission you want to use. I think that both would mate to a TH-400 auto-magic transmission, so it's probably a wash as to which to use. The '71 engine probably has less emissions junk on it's manifolds...... Jeff[Back to Top]
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