Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 08:38:00 PDT
From: "Jandrt, Rick" <rjandrt-at-msgate.litc.lockheed.com>
Subject: FW: LUN Participants as of 4/10.....WOW!
Del wrote:
>I know some of you have yet to fill out your intro form, but look at
what
>we have participating on the LUN......my goodness. Make sure I've got
>your
>state and org represented, please.
>
>Thanks, DEL
>
>Land Use Network Participants as of 4/10/97
>
>
> Oshwego Jeepers
Del, you may want to add "(CO)" after OSHWEGO Jeepers so people know
they're from the Rocky Mountain state.
Thanks,
Rick '83 CJ-7(chocolate moose) WB9PII, AMSOIL
Lakewood, Colorado
OSHWEGO JEEPERS,
Colorado Association of 4 Wheeldrive Clubs, Inc,
United 4 Wheel Drive Association,
rjandrt-at-msgate.litc.lockheed.com
[>|]=:}
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 09:22:27 -0600
From: emarin-at-cadis.com (Erik Marin)
Subject: Re2: Edelbrock Carburetors and Manifolds...
Jeff said;
>
>It actually said that very thing in the instructions when I put the
>Performer on my Javelin. Another important thing is that you use the
>stock type of gasket, available at any auto parts store. It has a
>valley pan that is supposed to keep oil from splashing on the bottom
of >the manifold and reduces oil consumption versus racing style
gaskets. >Unfortunately it is REALLY hard to get that thing lined up!
>
>So use the stock intake manifold gasket and RTV instead of the end
seals >that come with your stock gasket.
>
>Jeff
>
>Hmmm, Brian told me explicitly to *not* use a gasket with a valley
>pan under the Edelbrock manifold. Hmmmmm, anyone have the
>instructions from Edelbrock??
>C'ya
>Joe-
>79 Chief
My intallation instructions for the Performer AMS-70 Manifold read:
Use only OEM steel shim intake manifold gasket for this installation.
Erik Marin
79 Chief
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:50:35 -0400 From: Rick Terhune <terhuner-at-smtpgw2.musc.edu> Subject: Behind and Falling Back Hi to all. Just a note to say I have have been too busy to come out and play lately. Daily work schedule is from 7:00 AM to 11:00 PM so no time to chat. E-Mail to outside world was also broken for several weeks. 50 Digests behind as of today. Will have a life again after 4/15. Project Chief now painted, interior work 95% complete. Roof rack and interior console on order. Nearly there at last. Regards[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:04:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: Re: brian is slipping ;) Sorry, My mistake....I was giving the RPMs that I had with my 33s, not my 35s. I've actually got a t18 so I hope I'm not slipping. =8) Brian On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, SuperKen wrote: > brian, according to my calcs with ur setup, u should > be doing 28-2900 rpm at 65. but since ur running an AT this > means that there is a 12% slip in ur torque convertor!! > > so that turns ur 456's into 511's!!! > > > -- > Sincerely > > kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a > kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a > Super Wagoneer.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:15:10 -0700
From: john meister <john-at->
Subject: bogus virus alerts...
>Date: Thu, 10 Apr 1997 21:46:50 -0700 (PDT)
>>Subject: Re: [Fwd: FW: Virus Alert From Marc Belland, Bay DOCD]
>>>>>Please read the attached...scary stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FILE NAME: AOL4FREE.COM >>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >regarding this and other email virus attacks - you can't
initiate >the virus by reading email.
>A Virus such as this is only initiated when you execute ie 'run' a file that
>contains a virus. The exceptions to this are files that use macros and/or
other >languages such as microsoft .doc etc. (which may be attached)
>If you get suspect email, don't be inquisitive and double click on the
>attachment right away. just delete it.
>mick
Mick is right on. We just went through this with another "psych virus" on
ORC. A virus cannot infect your computer by simply reading your email,
you gotta be stupid and double click on it or execute the program yourself.
The email program just looks at the contents and displays it as bits in a file.
DO NOT double click on any executable file (.com, .exe. or .bat), excel
spread sheet (.xls, .xlt), word template (.dot) or .doc file without knowing
who it's from. If you suspect the file, you can view it using the vi
Editor. (I have a link on my UNIX page to download a copy for Win95 or
WinNT) I'd say you might be able to open it with Notepad, but I'm not sure
how microsoft writes their code so I'm not sure if you could do so safely.
DO NOT open it with Word, as it may pick up on the embedded style sheets or
macros. If you're using an older version of windows then you can view it
with edlin.
The company that just spent a month training me and then laid me off had
someone in the MIS department mailing out a virus contaminated excel
spreadsheet... Ya gotta wonder about those folks... anyway. I opened it
up with vi and found that it CREATED a file called Personal.XLS in my
XLSTART directory and had several strings calling out laroux. It didn't
when I got finished with it... :) I LOVE vi.
(BTW to protect yourself against that virus, simply create a file called
PERSONAL.XLS in your XLSTART directory and make it read only. You can use
notepad or do the following: "copy con PERSONAL.XLS, then hit ^ and F6".
done deal.)
FOR CORRECT INFORMATION I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the McAfee web site for valid and
correct information on viruses and other stupid acts by individuals that
should be hung upside down by sensitive body parts.
(I actually had some kid in Sweden email me asking for help in creating a
virus. I was kind. I should probably have turned him over to the SPA and
interpol... :)
the url is:
http://www.mcafee.com/
for an index of viruses and all kinds of cool technical gunk:
http://www.mcafee.com/support/techdocs/vinfo/index.html
lots of good info. Don't be misled, the only s/w that is
"self-contaminating" is Microsoft applications, especially with ActiveX.
And, most of the stuff that these "viruses" do is within the macro language
and will not be able to do much outside of Microsoft stuff. However, if you
can write a macro in Word or Excel that formats your hard drive, then worry.
Remember, if you dual boot your machine to run Linux it won't hurt Linux... :)
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER double click on a suspect application if you're using
Microsoft Windows of any kind. Either delete it or use a line editor to
view it. Better yet, ftp the thing up to a UNIX system and analyze it up
there. Also, because of the convoluted way that Mac's file stuff, it seems
to be immune from some viruses as well... :) (this is a peace offering to
all those macites who take offense at how I spell macintrash... <grin> )
As the deviants become more creative this information may change. What is
needed is tighter and more secure code from the world's foremost s/w product
producer, my neighbor down the road here in Redmond. It's amazing to me
that the orders of magnitude increase in computer memory has not equated in
orders of magnitude in s/w functionality. Translated, that means the coders
have more room to be sloppy. When they were saddled with 64K or 640K they
had to write efficient code, code that was "tight" and functional and well
thought out. With the head room offered, they don't have to work as hard
(still working hard to get stuff out the door, don't think they're having
lots of fun...) to get the stuff coded. What happens when you have "loose"
code is there are "openings" in the stuff that allows "creative" people room
to cause mischief.
Hey, I'm gonna give the soapbox back to doc... 'nuf said.
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 11:22:22 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Fan Clutch/Transmission Re-seal >I am considering either using blue RTV or nothing at all to seal the pan >gasket. Any comments? I will be doing this tonight (Friday) so don't >worry about replying if you get this message after Friday evening. > Dont use anything except the gasket,thats what its there for.I do probably around 4-6 tranny services a day and use nothing but ATP kits and nothing but what comes inside. It would be a good idea to find a magnet of some sort and put it in the pan while its down. >Just when you thought I was done....In the process of removing the >manual shaft I chewed the threads on the locknut. The end of the shaft >which is held by the retaining pin was also slightly bent, and the pin >had been replaced with a finish nail! The previous owner leaves his >infamous mark again. So I am waiting for a call-back from the GMC parts >counter to see if they can get me the parts and for how much $$$$. The >Jeep dealer told me they can't get the parts, and I figure GM would be >cheaper anyway since it's their tranny. Any good sources of Automatic >Transmission parts? >Jeff > Try dealing with a NAPA or Carquest...NAPA uses ATP and can get a lot of different parts,but it sounds like the way to go is GM. Billy 79J10[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:18:34 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: Re: Project "Big Chief" On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, billy dunn wrote: > > >> >> I plan on doing a complete frame up restore on it along with some mods > >> I've been working out. I also bought my NV4500 5-speed and Dana 300 xfer case > >> that i've been looking for last week. Now all I need is my new 1-ton > axles and > >> i've got the entire drive train. > > I beleive that I can help on the axles....dana 60 front 14 bolt rear?4.56s? > Dont think that is much of a problem.....I can get a matching set hope it > helps... > The price? > About 1500.00-1600.00 depending on mileage for the set.....with everything. > Billy Dunn > 79 J10 Billy, Thanks for the info, I'm still looking locally here but that gives me a good idea of wat to pay. I would assume that for that price those are open diffs. If I can't find any locally for a decent price I'll let you know. I wonder how much shipping would be to SLC?? Brian[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:25:46 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Transmission Stories Continued Well, as you may remember I was relating the tale of stripping the manual shifter shaft on my TH400 last night. I called the Jeep/Eagle dealer, they couldn't get it. Called the GMC truck dealer (several, actually). Some wouldn't look it up, one never called back, one said he didn't think he could get exactly what I needed since it was for the Jeep. Called a bunch of transmission shops and trans parts houses. They told me that there was an "unspoken agreement" between them that they only sold the shaft WITH the housing! Hmm.... So finally I found a guy who said "yeah, just bring your old one". Drove out to bad part of town on my lunch hour, handed him the shaft, his helper comes back with a shaft just like it, complete with the nuts on each end. So I pay him (only $5!!) and ask if he sells the seals. He sends me across the street to this old house, where there's a young guy, an old guy, and a guy who just got laid off from a transmission shop. The young guy is helping me find the seal when the transmission guy says "You need the shifter housing seal, not that o-ring." SO the young guy give him an entire rebuild gasket and seal kit and he pulls out the seal I need and GIVES it to me, NO CHARGE! Even told me the correct procedure for installation. Life is good today. I should be back on the road this evening, leak free. Just thought I'd share, particularly so you'd all know NOT to strip out your manual shifter shaft! Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:33:20 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Jeep Ads Probably the shifter sticking out of the floor could be a good clue. DUH! SuperKen wrote: > > how u no it had a 4spd?? > > M_B_FEICK wrote: > > > > I just saw a *4 spd* Wagoneer body looked great for $1495. It had a bad > > motor. Geez! If I only knew someone with a good 258... > > Let's see the wife could drive the Wag. with the kids, and I could have the > > 455 J20... > > > > Dreamin' in Pa. > > > > -- > Sincerely > > kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a > kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a > Super Wagoneer. > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:05:27 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Project "Big Chief" At 12:18 PM 4/11/97 -0600, you wrote: >> I beleive that I can help on the axles....dana 60 front 14 bolt rear?4.56s? >> Dont think that is much of a problem.....I can get a matching set hope it >> helps... >> The price? >> About 1500.00-1600.00 depending on mileage for the set.....with everything. >> Billy Dunn >> 79 J10 > > >Billy, > >Thanks for the info, I'm still looking locally here but that gives me a >good idea of wat to pay. I would assume that for that price those are open >diffs. If I can't find any locally for a decent price I'll let you know. I >wonder how much shipping would be to SLC?? > >Brian > > > >Brian they are not open diffs.they do not have LOCKERS but they do have a traction aiding diff.The only reason I did not go with them is the 14Bolt is not wide enough for my J truck.The only rearend I found that worked in it is from a 72 Dodge Fullsize Van. Now I have a bunch of 60s and 14 bolts laying around.(NOT 60 FRONT END)I only have 2 of those but know where I can get more.I think I seen them advertised for 1600.00 each in a magazine.I can get both front and rear for that much. I am assuming that SLC is California??I shipped a 60 to Minn.and it cost 100.00 for it to go. Anyone need a 9in for a newer model jeep??Got one that is 54in wide and has REAR DISKs. Let me know... Billy 79J10 > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:09:25 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Transmission Stories Continued > So I pay him (only $5!!) and ask if he sells the seals. He >sends me across the street to this old house, where there's a young guy, >an old guy, and a guy who just got laid off from a transmission shop. >The young guy is helping me find the seal when the transmission guy says >"You need the shifter housing seal, not that o-ring." SO the young guy >give him an entire rebuild gasket and seal kit and he pulls out the seal >I need and GIVES it to me, NO CHARGE! Even told me the correct >procedure for installation. > Sounds to me that you should do a lot of business for them and send friends to them to.It is very hard to find a retail auto shop that does things that way anymore.Please take the time and recommend friends there so as you may get another help in something further down in the future. Billy 79J10[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:35:29 +0200 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: Maximum tire size > > But IMO, if you do any serious off-road; go with 30-9.5s instead. If you > cross it up real good, I'll bet the 31s will rub. > serious off-road my 33's rubbed with 4" spring lift and 3" body lift !! Frank Norway[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 12:50:16 -0700 From: Marc Yarlott <ydesign-at-micron.net> Subject: Re:T-case Oil Hi, I have been lurking on your list for about a week. I have owned a 1982 Wagoneer, Broughm, 258 Five speed for 3 years. It has taken a lot of abuse with very!!! little trouble. It now has 135K on it. I am replying to the following comment: > My GW has the NP229 selec-trac case and > the manual calls for Dexron II in it. The guy who had it before had > gear lube in it. What affect if any would this have on it. It seems to > still work great. I have NP208 (as near as I can tell) that is leaking. I discovered that it had gear oil 90wt. in it. I talk to a transmission rebuilder in Spokane WA, (Triangle Truck, (509) 534-2341) about the Dextron II vs. gear oil. In his opinion, it could cause damage over the life to the chain drive, and it also could be the reason why mine was leaking. I plan to have him rebuild it for $200.00 new bearing, seals, and chains. I will report more later Marc Yarlott Yarlott Design 3140 Hwy. 200 E. Sandpoint, Idaho 83864 ydesign-at-micron.net[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 13:51:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Project "Big Chief"
Billy,
I'll let you know after I do a little more checking around here. SLC is
actually in Utah, the ad was probably from Boyce which is just up the road
in Ogden. He used to sell 14 bolts for $300 - $500 and front 60s for $800
- $1200 depending on whether they were gone through or not. Now he wants
$800 for the 14s and $1600 for the 60s. He gets them from military surplus
and most of them are in crates from being rebuilt by the military. The guy
that owns Boyce is a good guy and we used to be able to deal with him but
now he has a manager that runs the place that won't deal at all! I guess
once he learned that people really wanted these axles he figured he could
get more from them.
Brian
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On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, billy dunn wrote:
> >Brian they are not open diffs.they do not have LOCKERS but they do have a
> traction aiding diff.The only reason I did not go with them is the 14Bolt is
> not wide enough for my J truck.The only rearend I found that worked in it is
> from a 72 Dodge Fullsize Van.
> Now I have a bunch of 60s and 14 bolts laying around.(NOT 60 FRONT END)I
> only have 2 of those but know where I can get more.I think I seen them
> advertised for 1600.00 each in a magazine.I can get both front and rear for
> that much.
> I am assuming that SLC is California??I shipped a 60 to Minn.and it cost
> 100.00 for it to go.
> Anyone need a 9in for a newer model jeep??Got one that is 54in wide and has
> REAR DISKs.
> Let me know...
> Billy
> 79J10
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:06:27 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Transmission Stories Continued On Apr 11, 2:09pm, billy dunn wrote: > Subject: Re: Transmission Stories Continued > > Sounds to me that you should do a lot of business for them and send friends > to them to.It is very hard to find a retail auto shop that does things that > way anymore.Please take the time and recommend friends there so as you may > get another help in something further down in the future. > Billy > 79J10 > >-- End of excerpt from billy dunn Well, unfortunately I don't know ANYONE in Houston that works on cars, except one guy here at work and I already told him. But I will spread the word whenever possible! Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:20:11 CDT
From: hanstr-at-cimsys01.aud.alcatel.com (Tony Hanson)
Subject: Texas-Oklahoma Chapter of IFSJA
Greetings FSJers,
I have volunteered to coordinate the new
Texas-Oklahoma Chapter of the IFSJA and
am requesting anyone who resides in those
states to please email me directly with the
following information:
Name
Vehicle(s) model and year
Email addr
Phone and location would be nice (optional)
I can assure you any information received would
be used strickly for IFSJA purposes and will not
be made public knowledge without the members
permission.
I look forward to hearing from "ya'll" and
perhaps planning an inaugural T-O Chapter
get together!
May your u-joints never bind....
Tony R. Hanson (hanstr-at-cimsy01.aud.alcatel.com)
1964 Wagoneer Copeville, Texas
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:32:08 -0500 From: "Sc0" <sphynx-at-apathy.net> Subject: Re: Fan Clutch/Transmission Re-seal > Now for the fun...my TH400 housing has been leaking around the manual > shaft since I fixed the shift linkage. The pan had also began to look > more and more, and I just re-sealed it in November! So I pulled the pan > and the Permatex that the AutoZone guy convinced me to use was mostly > gone! I found it in a big mushy pile in the bottom of my trans pan. So > I have a new filter (in case that mush clogged my filter) and gasket. > > I am considering either using blue RTV or nothing at all to seal the pan > gasket. Any comments? I will be doing this tonight (Friday) so don't > worry about replying if you get this message after Friday evening. > In my '73 Manual, it says not to use any type of sealant on the gasket. I have replaced my filter in my trans because it was leaking, I just put the cork gasket on then torqued the bolts down to whatever the book said, no leaks. Isn't it a pain to try and take the pan off? In between the crossmember, transfercase and the filter inside of the pan, it's frustrating to complete. BTW: I did find an oil leak, I think it is the oil pan gasket BUT, I am going to check and see if it is leaking elsewhere first. (after I get my truck back)[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:37:19 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: Jeep Ads how u no it had a 4spd?? >>>>> Said it in the ad. Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:50:34 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Fan Clutch/Transmission Re-seal Sc0, I am still getting all messages to you bounced back. Don't know why, I have sent messages to several others all week with no problem. Might ought to check with your sysadmin. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:42:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net>
Subject: shop manuals
I bought both of my O.E. shop manuals ('76 & "80) at a car swap meet held in
my area every June. The vendor specializes in manuals & has hundreds in
milk crates which are stacked into walls around his swap space. While the
crowd is going over all of the brand x stuff, I calmly go thru his AMC stuff
on one of the back walls (where no one else goes apparantly). I think I
paid about $45 each (bought a year apart from each other).
The idea here is you can probably find the manuals at the swap meets at
affordable prices due to the vendors place lower values on the
non-chevy/ford stuff.
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:54:21 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: pep boys/brake job Personally, I'd have a cow over $1000. for a brake job (I usually don't pay that much for the whole vehicle:) Have parts costs gone up that much? I don't think there are any Pep boys in my area (maybe in St. Louis).[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:28:54 -0500 From: "THOMAS E. TAYLOR SR." <tet2met-at-mt.net> Subject: Sonny Bono I thought I had the address, but can't lay my hands on it right now!!!:( However, here is his webpage: http://www.house.gov/bono/ good luck. I look forward to seeing him on the list! Tom 65 J300 -------- REPLY, Original message follows -------- > Date: Thursday, 10-Apr-97 09:31 PM > > From: Dennis M. "Doc" Fariello \ Internet: (fariello-at-inspace.net) > To: Multiple recipients of \ Internet: (fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi. com) > > Subject: Re: LPG and CNG > > reading about the conversions and all just reminded me of something... I've got > this book, called the rv/truck/van conversion guide, published by TAB books in > '82...chapter 21, page 174 through 184... an LPG conversion on Sonny Bono's > WAGONEER! doesn't say what year it is, but it's somewhere between '73 (round > gauge AMC dash) and '82, when the book was published, I guess. If anybody > wants to see the article, I've got the book right here in front of me, I guess > I'll see if I can get permission to put it on the web site. Hey, anybody got > Sonny's email address? <grin>. We need to get him on the list! > > | > | > | | > | ============= | > 0_| / \ |_o > |_|_____----+-----____|_| > |====|=====|=====|====| > ||____|_____|_____|____|| > \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ > |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| > ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ > > Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" > _____________________________________ > > email: fariello-at-inspace.net > http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj > _____________________________________ > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > -------- REPLY, End of original message --------[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:38:40 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: Sc0 e-mail problems They are pissing me off now.. >>>>> And they probably aren't done[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 15:28:22 -0700 From: bks-at-CO.INTEL.COM Subject: Re: Fan Clutch/Transmission Re-seal ScO and others wrote: > > Now for the fun...my TH400 housing has been leaking around the manual > > shaft since I fixed the shift linkage. The pan had also began to look > > more and more, and I just re-sealed it in November! So I pulled the pan > > and the Permatex that the AutoZone guy convinced me to use was mostly > > gone! I found it in a big mushy pile in the bottom of my trans pan. So > > I have a new filter (in case that mush clogged my filter) and gasket. > > > > I am considering either using blue RTV or nothing at all to seal the pan > > gasket. Any comments? I will be doing this tonight (Friday) so don't > > worry about replying if you get this message after Friday evening. > > > In my '73 Manual, it says not to use any type of sealant on the gasket. > I have replaced my filter in my trans because it was leaking, I just put the > cork gasket on then torqued the bolts down to whatever the book said, no leaks. > Isn't it a pain to try and take the pan off? In between the crossmember, > transfercase and the filter inside of the pan, it's frustrating to complete. > BTW: I did find an oil leak, I think it is the oil pan gasket BUT, I am going tocheck and see if it is leaking elsewhere first. (after I get my truck back) > Lately I have replaced two transmission pan gaskets (on two differnt vehicles). They were both leaking very badley before I replaced them. I bought new gaskets at NAPA. They weren't cork or normal rubber type gaskets, but some black rubberish/corkish whatever stuff. I didn't use any sealent, just cleaned the surfaces really well and torked down the covers with a torque wrench to the specs. Neither has leaked a drop or even shows any sign of seapage! I didn't think it was possible! One has been going for about 6 months, the other for about two. I'm happy. -brad[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 16:12:18 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: 70 Wagoneer Accessory Mounts ? I also have a hi-output ACCELL (big yellow) coil to replace the stock unit. Is there any problem (other than perhaps a bit longer run for the primary coil wire to the distributor) mounting this coil on the fender-well ? >>>>>> The longer travel for coil wire is no problem- electricity travels at what. 186K miles per hour? No problem. (at least with a good low resistance wire-added length equals added resistance on crappy wire) Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:45:55 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: SV: Maximum tire size > >serious off-road my 33's rubbed with 4" spring lift and 3" body lift !! > >Frank >Norway > > I have a 4in system and a 3in body lift and run 36in Swampers....Never been able to get them to rub and it has been twisted so bad I busted the front windshield.I did trim the very first lip on all the fenders but thats it. Billy 79J10[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 16:52:38 -0700 From: billy dunn <dunns-at-csra.net> Subject: Re: Project "Big Chief" At 01:51 PM 4/11/97 -0600, you wrote: >Billy, > >I'll let you know after I do a little more checking around here. SLC is >actually in Utah, the ad was probably from Boyce which is just up the road >in Ogden. He used to sell 14 bolts for $300 - $500 and front 60s for $800 >- $1200 depending on whether they were gone through or not. Now he wants >$800 for the 14s and $1600 for the 60s. He gets them from military surplus >and most of them are in crates from being rebuilt by the military. The guy >that owns Boyce is a good guy and we used to be able to deal with him but >now he has a manager that runs the place that won't deal at all! I guess >once he learned that people really wanted these axles he figured he could >get more from them. > >Brian > I know exactly what you mean....These are units coming out of decommisioned buck and a quarters (1=BC)tons....They are not rebuilt but you can get them with very low mileage. They actually have a Blazer that has a 14 bolt and 8 lug 44 that has 27 miles on it. They wont sell a 60 front only you have to buy the set.They actually prefer you buy the whole vehicle.Just let me know.... Billy 79J10=20[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 19:36:21 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: shot up jeep Ok maybe I've been under a rock for too long. What's the story on the poor J-truck that got caught in the cross fire during the attempted bank robbery in California? I just saw some footage on "unsolved mysteries" & you can see the truck caught between a squad car & the robbers & they're shooting thru the glass of the truck at each other. :( Did the truck belong to anyone here on the list? No wonder the cops were so determined to get them for committing such a crime against one of our trucks :) Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 97 19:24:02 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: 70 Wagoneer Accessory Mounts ? The longer travel for coil wire is no problem- electricity travels at what. 186K miles per hour? >>>> Actually, per second-sorry Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:48:42 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: canvas shell A canvas topper sounds pretty cool. Does the brochure show what kind of bows were used? A home grown version might be do-able. An outfit is offering the same for Studebaker trucks (Studie also offered them) & they look really good on the ones I've seen at the shows. Mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 17:34:03 -0500 (CDT) From: chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> Subject: fan clutch/transmission reseal Jeff: dont be to rough on the previous owner, the shift shaft was pinned with a nail from the factory (a common Hydromatic trick). Also, note that not all pan gaskets are created equal. I usually have to buy a filter, throw the enclosed gasket away, and then buy a good gasket separate. The "closed cell" type are much better than the open fibre ones. mike Saltsgaver.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:09:59 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: high Performance AMC v8 oil pump
i would recomend glass instead of plywood!!
DOROTHY I. STREICH wrote:
>
> #2 no, you can do it yourself with a piece of 220 grit sand paper mounted
> to a flat surface like a plywood table.
> ----------
--
Sincerely
kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a
Super Wagoneer.
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:29:21 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Fan Clutch/Transmission Re-seal
jeff, u can use cork gasket on the AT pan, but soak it over
night in ATF b4 install. also, use some VERY fine sewing
thread to keep the gasket on the pan as u bolt it up. just
tie some of the thread thru the bolt holes then around the
lip of the pan. then put the bolts in, scew them in a few
turns, then remove the thread!!
Jeff Gunn wrote:
>
>
> Now for the fun...my TH400 housing has been leaking around the manual
> shaft since I fixed the shift linkage. The pan had also began to look
> more and more, and I just re-sealed it in November! So I pulled the pan
--
Sincerely
kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a
Super Wagoneer.
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:31:28 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: brian is slipping ;)
oh..:(
Brian Riggs wrote:
>
> Sorry, My mistake....I was giving the RPMs that I had with my 33s, not my
> 35s. I've actually got a t18 so I hope I'm not slipping. =8)
>
> Brian
>
--
Sincerely
kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a
Super Wagoneer.
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:32:36 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Fan Clutch/Transmission Re-seal
also, c about puttin in a drain plug as well. BM sells thses.
billy dunn wrote:
>
> Dont use anything except the gasket,thats what its there for.I do probably
> around 4-6 tranny services a day and use nothing but ATP kits and nothing
> but what comes inside.
> It would be a good idea to find a magnet of some sort and put it in the pan
> while its down.
>
>
--
Sincerely
kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a
Super Wagoneer.
[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 15:36:11 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Jeep Ads
not so, a converted 3 on the tree with a floor shifter. the
reason i ask, is that some of the late 60's wags had
an option for the t18 4spd!!
Landen Schooler (the Scotsman) wrote:
>
> Probably the shifter sticking out of the floor could be a good clue.
> DUH!
>
--
Sincerely
kenneth e. wetherall If a Wagoneer can go where a
kenns-at-concentric.net CJ can go, then it's a
Super Wagoneer.
[Back to Top]Date: 12 Apr 97 00:42:13 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: 5-Speed! (was Nice Page) Marc Yarlott <ydesign-at-micron.net> writes: >> I have a 1982 Wagoneer with a 258, five speed. << Ewwwh...an elusive Warner T-5! Only avail. in '82 & '83 I believe? 4.03 1st gear and a .76-.86 5th gear. T-5 not necessarily noted for reliability. I don't know if it's reputation arises from "normal" use or side-stepping the clutch at 4000 RPM. Kewl none-the-less :-). -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 11-Apr-1997 !^NavFont01F000DMGgHGpMG4EHHw9177[Back to Top]
Date: 12 Apr 97 00:42:21 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: AMC V8 Mods (again...) <Manifolds> "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> writes: >> #1 Dual port 360 degree Std 4bbl #2 Dual port 360 degree Spread-Bore Qjet << I think I'd be using one of those if they had EGR. There not good for high RPM but, the dual-port design is awesome for mileage and low-end. The flow through the primaries is separated entirely from the flow through the secondaries. It doesn't mix until it gets to the intake port. The primaries' runner volume is small to promote good velocity. >> P.S...Does anyone know of a low-end torque cam that is CA legal on a 79? << Karl, there are no smog legal cams for the AMCs. As long as you use a cam with no more than 40-45 degrees of overlap, the smog inspectors will never know. The bigger the engine, the more overlap you can get away with. For a 360, I'd stay under 42-43 degrees. If the cam card does not state the overlap, you can figure it out by adding the .006" intake valve open (IVO) figure (BTDC) to the .006" exhaust valve open (EVO) figure (ATDC). Example, if the cam card says: IVO = 23 BTDC EVC = 22 ATDC Then the overlap is 45 degrees. Overlap is the period of time, in crank shaft degrees, that both the intake and the exhaust valves are off their seats. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 11-Apr-1997 !^NavFont01F0016MGuHG~MG73HH93MHCDHJD89D22[Back to Top]
Date: 12 Apr 97 00:42:30 EDT From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: windshields chrissy saltsgaver <chrissys-at-midwest.net> writes: >> There's no other way to get the dash out with removing the gasket as far as I know. Any experience out there? << I think someone on the list pulled a dash once (Mick?) without taking out the window. But, I think it would be a lot more trouble that it's worth. Mike, I did pull a front window intact once without cutting the weatherstrip but again; it wasn't worth the extra time. Once the w/s was out, I didn't feel like it was reusable. I don't remember exactly how I did it but, I think I pried the window out with a screw driver starting in the upper right hand (passenger side) corner. I believe once I got it started, it came out pretty easily by running the screw driver blade along the inside edge of the glass (from the outside). Let us know if you're successful and what you end-up doing. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 11-Apr-1997 !^NavFont01F000AMGoHGxHIB637C1[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 21:57:22 -0700 From: "Allan Weidenheimer" <allanw-at-pacific.telebyte.com> Subject: Re: 360 Pinging tech tip I haven't seen the pinging TSB, but I'm pretty sure I have a link to Alldata on my Auto links page. http://pacific.telebyte.com/allanw/auto.html Allan Weidenheimer 84 GW[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 1997 22:38:47 -0700 From: "Allan Weidenheimer" <allanw-at-pacific.telebyte.com> Subject: AC Not working Here's what I found: On the passenger fender, there is an electrical switch connected inline on one of the AC hoses. If the pressure of the freon drops below some amount (controlled by the switch) then the compressor clutch won't engage because that switch is between the AC on/off/temp switch and the compressor clutch. I bet your system needs a recharge. The process for recharge involves jumpering across the switch until there is enough pressure in the system, I think. BTW, the switch looks like the type you would see tracking oil pressure on a car with idiot lights (though it is different, NC vs NO). Allan Weidenheimer 84 GW[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 09:17:13 -0400 (EDT) From: MasterDan-at-aol.com Subject: Curtis' questions Curtis >>>>4) My wife, the safety ranger, asks if anyone knows of shoulder >belt kits that will fit the back seat>>>>> there was actually a rear seat shoulder kit available from the dealer. It is mentioned in ALLDATA as a retrofit item. Let me know if you get it and your thoughts. My wife is bugging too. That way she will feel more comfortable taking the nephews out in the dirt. . . . . 5) Has anyone done the no-ping mod from AllData? I have the data sheet, but I feel bad because I am usually so slow in responding. Faxing is a poor option since I usually check e-mail at about 11:00 at night! Don't want to wake you with a fax. IS THERE SOMEONE that I can fax this to and maybe get it scanned??? 'Till then Curtis, or others, send me your fax number and I will do a marathon fax routine . . . . . yeah Okay I'll pay the phone bill! no biggie. Dan[Back to Top]
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