Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:40:11 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: summit, phone numbers, NON-FSJ!! Hey, john, what's up with the decimals or dots between the area code, prefix, and local number? That seems to be a west coast thing since I've only seen it elsewhere in correspondence with our LA office. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: john meister <john-at-> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: summit > Date: Thursday, April 17, 1997 5:12 PM > > summit's advertised number is: 330.630.0200 > > but when my high perf cat showed up it had a sticker > with this number: 1.800.230.3030 and when I ordered > my Dynaflow, it worked... :) > > later, > john[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:02:54 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: 2.72 RP's (Re: Trac-lok or "Locker") Ken, is the 3.73 r&p and power-lok combo still available? ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:11:01 -0500 From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com> Subject: Re: Air Intake Hose Yeah, those are available at your local auto parts store. I retrofitted Ole Bessy with one from a '79. It gets really hot in my engine compartment so I wanted to let cool air into the engine. ======================================= Henry Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com ---------- > From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > Subject: Re: Air Intake Hose > Date: Friday, April 18, 1997 12:04 AM > > At 11:07 PM 4/17/97 -0400, you wrote: > >I bought one from my Jeep dealer a few months ago. Still in stock. As I > >recall, it was all of about seven bucks. > > > OK...all this talk of air intake hoses etc, I gotta ask, > is this something we with the older beasts be adding to ours? > Benefits? I'm betting they attach to one of those oval holes > in front wall by the radiator? > > C'ya > Joe- > > 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:23:03 EDT From: versicom-at-juno.com (BRIAN D COLUCCI) Subject: [No Subject] GREETINGS TO THE FSJ WORLD! THE VAX IS BACK ON ICE AND LIFE IS GOOD AGAIN. NOT MUCH TIME TODAY SO HERE ARE A FEW QUICKIES. 1) HEY MIKE AHLMANN ABOUT YOUR STICKY PROBLEM, I HAVE THE PERFECT STUFF; AND THE BEST PART IS THAT YOU CAN GET IT RIGHT FROM THAT SAME FRIENDLY JEEP PARTS COUNTER THAT GOT YOU THE PAD IN THE FIRST PLACE. CHRYSLER MAKES AN ADHESIVE THAT COMES IN A TUBE. IT IS A BLACK ADHESIVE THAT IS USED TO FORM A GASKET ON FRONT DRIVE TRANY CASES FOR THE CHRYSLER CARS. THE NICE PART ABOUT THE STUFF IS THAT IT IS HEAT, AND OIL RESISTANT, AND STICKS LIKE YOU WILL NOT BELIEVE. IF YOU NEED A PART NUMBER LET ME KNOW. IT HAS BEEN HOLDING THE PAD ON MY HOOD FOR QUITE SOME TIME. 2) HOW ABOUT THAT R-12 FROM SOUTH OF THE BORDER? BAD IDEA! THAT STUFF IS NOT PURE. THEY PUT A LOT OF CAUSTIC EXTENDERS INTO IT. IT WILL EAT THE RUBBER RIGHT OUT OF YOUR O RINGS AND HOSES. SO FOR A QUICK FREEZE FIX IS IT REALLY WORTH TRASHING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM? I HAVE ALSO HEARD TELL OF THAT MEXICAN FLUID CAUSING SOME A/C SYSTEMS TO EXPLODE. BIG PROBLEM. 3) SO SONNY B. HAD OR HAS AN FSJ. THE USS GRAND WAGONEER HAS PLAYED HOST IN ITS PAST TO THE LIKES OF MACK DAVIS. HE REALLY LIKED IT A LOT AND WANTED TO BUY IT FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER; BUT DID NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH HAVING TO TRANSPORT IT ACROSS COUNTRY TO HIS HOME. 4) I AM SEEING A LOT OF UNLOVED FSJ'S HERE IN DAYTON, OH. IT IS OBVIOUS THAT THEY ARE JUST A FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND NOT APPRECIATED FOR THE QUALITY THAT IS BURIED BENEATH THE SURFACE. PLUS I DO NOT SEE ANY HITS ON THE BOARD HERE FROM ANY OF THEIR OWNERS. TO BAD. 5) A FORMER OHIOAN ASKED FOR A BIO ON THE USS GRAND WAGONEER. HERE IT IS. 1989 GRAND WAGONEER BLACK, WOODY SIDES, CRANBERRY LEATHER INNARDS OWNERS: BRIAN & SUSAN & MOLLY, THE GOLDEN RETRIEVER DAYTON, OHIO 6) BY THE WAY FOR THOSE WIVES THAT HATE THEIR HUSBAND'S FSJ'S. THE USS GRAND WAGONEER IS SUSAN'S. SHE WANTED IT; BECAUSE HER DAD HAD ONE FOR YEARS. SUSAN LIKES TO SIT HIGH ABOVE THE REST OF TRAFFIC AND GET THAT BIG PICTURE. THE SEATS ALLOW YOU TO BE COMFORTABLE EVEN WHEN DRIVING IN A SKIRT AND HOSE. COMFORT CUTS DOWN ON THE NEED TO SQUIRM AROUND ATTEMPTING TO GET COMFORTABLE WHILE DRIVING. IT'S A WOMAN THING I AM TOLD. UNTIL THE NEXT DIMENSION, ADMIRAL "COLUCH." END TRANSMISSION STARFLEET HEADQUARTERS OHIO POST ......................................................................[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:12:01 -0700 From: Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com Subject: Re: Air Intake Hose Yup, that's where it goes - from the air cleaner up to the sheet metal the fan shroud sits on forward near the grill. There's a lip around one of the holes that the hose slops pver and clamps onto. It provides a source of cool, dense air after the thermally-actuated valve in the air-cleaner throat opens up. This gives the carb warm air when it's cold and cold air when it's warm. -Mike A. jsego -at- mindspring.com 04/17/97 10:04 PM Please respond to fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com To: fsj-list -at- listserver.tehabi.com cc: Subject: Re: Air Intake Hose At 11:07 PM 4/17/97 -0400, you wrote: >I bought one from my Jeep dealer a few months ago. Still in stock. As I >recall, it was all of about seven bucks. > OK...all this talk of air intake hoses etc, I gotta ask, is this something we with the older beasts be adding to ours? Benefits? I'm betting they attach to one of those oval holes in front wall by the radiator? C'ya Joe- 79 Chief --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:27:15 -0700 From: Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com Subject: Jeeps vs. Modern Technology As I was driving to work this morning I saw something that I thought was an interesing application of Silicon Valley technology. A new Ford Expedition pulled up next to my GW at a stop light and was looking with unabashed envy (I think that's what it was) at my Jeep. We were both in adjacent left turn lanes and I could see that there was an array of LED's behind the silvered surface of the large side mirror that formed a bright red blinking arrow which clearly proclaimed the driver's intention to turn left. It was very visible to cars next to, or behind, her vehicle. My immediate reactions were: 1. Wow, that's pretty cool! 2. I wonder what it costs to replace that puppy when they break it off on a .......(fill in your favorite obstruction)! Jeep related question: Do Jeepers spend more time worrying about the cost of replacing broken parts than other drivers? Have a good Friday everyone. The weekend is in our sights! Mike Ahlmann '87 GW[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:38:57 -0700 From: Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com Subject: Re: Air Intake Hose Maybe this is a regional bacterial or fungal thing or maybe all hoses aren't created equal. Out here in California, where people and Jeeps last forever (right?), I replaced my original hose at 8 years and the replacement still is in good shape after ~3 years of use. Mike Ahlmann brewer -at- thaad.tecmas.com 04/18/97 06:37 AM Please respond to fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com To: fsj-list -at- listserver.tehabi.com cc: Subject: Re: Air Intake Hose >Anyone know of a supplier for an Air Intake Hose for a 90 GW? Mine has >been ripped to shreds. Wonder how the prev owner did that. This is the >hose that connects the air cleaner to the front of the grill. > Carlo, The air intake hose for your GW, like my '89GW is, made of a special material that is designed to self destruct after being exposed to air for more than 15 minutes. Either that, or all previous GW owners had maniacal fits which turned them to hideous beasts with but one purpose- shredding the air intake hose on the first full moon. I have never seen one intact. You'd be better off rigging up something to work as it's just going to decompose again- fast. JB "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:35:41 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: Re: midwest fsj's Brian said; snip- >4) I AM SEEING A LOT OF UNLOVED FSJ'S HERE IN DAYTON, OH. IT IS OBVIOUS >THAT THEY ARE JUST A FORM OF TRANSPORTATION AND NOT APPRECIATED FOR THE >QUALITY THAT IS BURIED BENEATH THE SURFACE. PLUS I DO NOT SEE ANY HITS >ON THE BOARD HERE FROM ANY OF THEIR OWNERS. TO BAD. > >5) A FORMER OHIOAN ASKED FOR A BIO ON THE USS GRAND WAGONEER. HERE IT >IS. > >1989 GRAND WAGONEER >BLACK, WOODY SIDES, CRANBERRY LEATHER INNARDS >OWNERS: BRIAN & SUSAN > & MOLLY, THE GOLDEN RETRIEVER >DAYTON, OHIO Ohio eh? Thats great! Another midwestern'er on the list, We now have OH, IN, IL, MN, represented. Say Doc, we may have a midwest chapter yet! C'ya Joe- 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:50:05 -0700 From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Washboard from Hell Remember when I was telling you guys about my Cherokee feeling the effects of the washboard from hell? I think I said something about the vibrations being so bad I thought some of the body spot welds would break loose? Well...I finally tracked down a couple of squeaks I've been hearing ever since that "road" and thought were in the suspension somewhere. They weren't coming from the suspension...and no, they weren't broken spot welds...but they were close. Have you ever seen the tab under the vent window where the door skin attaches to the inner part of the door? Well, that tab is completely cracked through where it comes off of the door skin. The squeaking was the two metal edges rubbing against each other. The other squeak is coming from a section of front fender panel right next to the driver's side turn signal where a crack has propagated along a section where the body panel makes a right angle. Yikes...that really WAS a rough road. To stop the squeaking for now I just squirted some bike chain lube onto the cracks. What would be the best way to repair these cracks in the thin sheetmetal? Brazing? or Welding? or Whatever? Tom Anhalt '81 Cherokee Laredo[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:28:41 -0400 From: "Dennis M. \"Doc\" Fariello" <fariello-at-inspace.net> Subject: re: Air intake hose Pep Boys and other parts stores usually have 'em in stock, I believe. >Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:20:50 -0500 >From: "Carlo J. Calica" <calica-at-adj.com> >Subject: Air Intake Hose > >Anyone know of a supplier for an Air Intake Hose for a 90 GW? Mine has >been ripped to shreds. Wonder how the prev owner did that. This is the >hose that connects the air cleaner to the front of the grill. | | | | | ============= | 0_| / \ |_o |_|_____----+-----____|_| |====|=====|=====|====| ||____|_____|_____|____|| \_____|___|DOC|___|_____/ |\/\/|--------\_/--|\/\/| ______|\/\/|_____________|\/\/|______ Home of the "Bottomless Transfer Case" _____________________________________ email: fariello-at-inspace.net http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsj _____________________________________[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 17:59:19 +0200 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: Intoduction etc. > > I am the proud owner of a 1979 Cherokee Chief with a 360 V8, TH400 > trans(rebuilt before purchase), and a QT case with milemarker part > time conversion. I have had the vehicle for about six months now and > have been working on it about 80% of the time and driving it about > 20%. (I hope the ratio improves :') Isn't a 80/20 ratio about average for a FSJ -)) > I was beginning to think I have a hobby instead of a truck... I > guess it's both! As time goes you will see it's developing more and more into a lifestyle:-)) > It's great to know that I'm not alone > in my illogical love of such a cool vehicle! Indeed you're not !! Frank Norway > > If any of you are in the denver colorado area, permenantly or just > visiting, let me know! I try, but don't succeed in getting out every > weekend for "wilderness activities" in the rockies. > > BTW: I'm 26 work for an industrial software company in Boulder as an > implementation specialist, and like to browse the local salvage yard > for parts during my lunch hour... ;') > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:45:42 +0200 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: Norwegian Wagoneer update Well, the winter is almost gone here in my parts of Norway (it's snowing outside right now, but) and I'll post a update on the work progress on my Wag. It was parked in the garage in november wounded like an old warrior after the ' 96 season with pulling, mud racing, trial competitions, rock crawling and general mind-less fun-runs through whatever terrain I would find. The ride home after the last mud-run was 200 km done in darkness at night without charging and headlights with my friends Land Rover very close upfront so I could use his headlights. Not very fun! After a while in the garage without even wanting to look at it's direction I finaly did take a look to determine what had to be done. Water Pump - broken bearing Servo pump - leaking badly Alternator - no charging Air system - ripped hose and other leaking points Transfer - broken shift fork Ignition - barely working Drive shafts - Rear one ripped to pieces and the front one twisted Rear door - Had a very unkindly meeting with a tree Rear bumper - Ripped off the frame after I used it as a can opener on my friends Toyota pickup when he did not make it through the mud pit and I came next to him ( I really though I could avoid him but I made it through even with half his pickup bed hanging on my rear bumper) Tires - Only two good left So now I'm near a end to the winters efforts in the garage. I've just finished building new tube bumpers front and rear using 3" tubing. The rear one also have a spare tire swing away carrier. pictures of the bumpers will be on my homepage as soon as I can. I also buildt side bars at the same time. Replaced the water pump and rebuildt the servo. Rebuildt the hole air setup with new hoses inside the frame to add more protection. Made a new drive shaft for the front and new yokes on the rear. I opted not to use bigger u-joints or larger tubing for the drive shafts because I feel that a briken u-joint or drive shaft is a inexpencive failure so it's a OK place to have the weakest link. The alterative would be a broken axle or a broken transfer, much more expencive and difficult to fix on the trail. Rear door eeh.. painted?? I bought myself new 35 x 12,5 x 15" BFG Mud Terrains and I'm waiting for a Jacobs Ultra Team to replace my ignition. So here is were I stand today. Just got the transfer case shift fork from Brad (thank you again) but havn't had the time to modifie it yet. and I still havn't figured out the charging problem. The alternator checks out fine in the test bench but when I instal it in the Wag it will charge for about one second and then stop. So I had high hopes to get it running for the first competition weekend 24-25-26 of april, but now I have to take some time off it to replace the engine in our daily drive the french Citroen, not a very fun job, but I hate to get up at 6 every morning to take the bus to work :-)) Well everybody, this turned out to be a long post about my life in the garage but anyway. Greeting and happy wheeling Frank Norway BTW Ken I'm very sorry for not being able to vote for your Super in TTC, but the mag takes soooo long to get to me so please somebody vote for me and Good Luck Ken !!!!![Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:02:20 +0200 From: "Frank" <falmaas-at-online.no> Subject: SV: Intoduction etc. (fender flares) > > That's because fender flares RULE!!!!!! > > Brian > > Fenders and flares will get you nowhere in the dirt :-)) Frank Norway > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:04:19 -0500 From: Jeff Herbst <JeffHerbst-at-electrosys.com> Subject: What Carb to use? OK guys, I ned some help. I have the wagoneer back with the newly rebuilt engine, I've installed the Header and 3" exhaust system, but I have decided to replace the intake and carb. After reading all or your comments on how bad the factory card ( Ford) and how much you loved your Edelbrock I want to try it. The question is WHICH edelbrock are you running, how does it work with the EGR performer manifold? Eledbrock does NOT list a carb for the AMC engines on their 'performer series system'. One guy from the Tech line of one of the vendors advertising in Four-Wheeler said he had no idea what would work on an AMC with EGR.(No surprise there). So what do you (y'all) suggest? Tech Info: 1982 Wagoneer, 360 (now366) stock intake and carb(2-barrel) Edelbrock T.E.S. headers w/emission hook-up, auto 3.23 axels, manual hubs, part 4WD, Jeff Herbst 1982 Wagoneer Limited (weren't they all limited?) Texas[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:58:05 -0700 From: Steve_Rosewarne-at-wink.com Subject: Re: FSJ-List-Digest - Number 261 FROM---->FSJ-List-Digest Friday, April 18, 1997 Issue 261 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:35:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Eric Knapp <knappe-at-mcnet.marietta.edu> Subject: RE: Adhesive How much did the insulation cost approximately? I am in dire need of some. >>>hood insulation is still available through chrysler, comes in 3 pieces. >>>fit fine on my 83 cherokee ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Short essay; "How to Make Her Realize the Zen Involved in Owning a Full-Sized Jeep" Initially, my girlfriend of 7 years was VERY anti-Jeep. She thought I should buy a "nice" car. I explained to her that I was VERY tired of driving our '93 Corolla to Lake Tahoe and spending valuable snowboarding time with a snow shovel in my hands digging a path for the car that it would likely get stuck in anyway. Then she felt if I HAD to have a truck and I could afford a new pathfinder/forerunner/etc, that I should buy one of those instead. I explained to her how I have wanted a GW as long as I can remember and of course went ahead and bought one despite her protestations. The first few months were tense because of the immediate maintenance required following the purchase. She perceived her opinion that this was a piece of junk to be correct and made certain that I heard about it every time I took it to the shop (I know very little about engine repair and had to drop $$$$ for a mechanic to do the work). I bought it in August and this went on until Winter came, ahhh Winter. I took her up to Tahoe and in a single weekend my truck more than redeemed itself. We had a blast driving around in deep snow. She is 5'11", Italian, has a major attitude and definitely enjoyed "moving the snow around." It got especially good when a housemate's Pathfinder got stuck and I had to yank it out (see FSJ website for story). The high point of the entire experience was when she somewhat timidly asked if she could drive it in the snow. My first instinct was to say "No way, not after all your disparaging comments" but being a diplomatic person and favoring harmony at home I let her and she loved it. She would never openly praise the vehicle, that would be admitting she was wrong, but the verbal assaults have ceased. In fact, on several occasions when I make a long highway trip, she has suggested we swap vehicles because the Corolla gets better mileage. Previously she refused to even consider driving my truck. I realize that this is a long way from "loving" the truck as I do, but it is probably as close as she is going to get, at least until next winter. My suggestion then is this, get yourself in a situation where your FSJ will be appreciated and let her drive it. It worked for me. > Subject: Help save the life of an FSJ > > Anyway, I could use some help lobbying her. If your significant other > supports you in your efforts to keep one of these classic driving > machines on (and off) the road, have her drop a line to my wife Lauren > at hortonnh-at-xtdl.com. > >-- End of excerpt from Phil_Horton-at-avid.com ------------------------------[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 97 11:54:25 EDT From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: 400 VS 455 How does the Poncho 400 fare agin the Buick 455? Well, you are not exactly asking the most objective person, as I'm sure you realize, so let me say this: My opinion based on years of cruising the longest lighted cruising strip on the east coast (featured in Hot Rod [ugh!] from time to time) is that the early Ponchos really ran (421, 389, 400) and that the big block 455 Poncho isn't exactly slow or a dog or whatever, but it just doesn't have the potential of the 455 Buick. Sure there are great Judges out there that really run with Ram Air IV heads and stuff, but by and large the Buick is a better runner. An intersting race would be the 425 Buick "nail head"/421 Super Duty Pontiac one in a 65 GTO the other in a 65 GS! The Pontiac 400 is a good motor, but I think a more important aspect is the torque characteristics of each respective mill. I don't know what the 400 curves are like, but I'm quite sure that the 455 Buick has better low end (at least!) AND is truer to the heritage of our Jeeps than Pontiac. If I were building a boulevard cruiser out of an early GTO and I had the choice of a 400 or 455 Pontiac I would go with the 400. Better manners for the same power for that application. The opposite would be true for drag racing. However 400 Poncho vs 455 Buick?? REALLY NOW! BTW I found '67 430 heads for my 455!! CARTWHEELS! EXHALTATIONS!! GENERAL TOMFOOLERY!! 10:1 compression! Bigger ports! AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:13:13 -0600 (MDT) From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu> Subject: Re: SV: Intoduction etc. (fender flares) But they sure do look COOL!!!!! =8) Brian On Fri, 18 Apr 1997, Frank wrote: > > > > > > That's because fender flares RULE!!!!!! > > > > Brian > > > > > Fenders and flares will get you nowhere in the dirt :-)) > > Frank > Norway > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the > command > > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:28:41 -0700 From: Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com Subject: Re: What Carb to use? Edelbrock makes a Model 4100 Performer carb with EGR that is made for their Performer intake manifold with EGR. This combo works together perfectly and has connections and fittings for all the stock (late model) Jeep emissions control stuff to connect with: vacuum, H20, EGR, PCV, and Air Injection. The foregoing was all true as of 2.3 years ago anyway! Mike Ahlmann '87 GW[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:20:50 EST From: snordby-at-topcat.bridgew.edu Subject: My thoughts on the model 20 axle bearings I have the wonderfull amc rearend. Yes many bearings have failed. Take the backingplate bolts out and slide the axleshaft out. Next cut the bearing off. Press a new one on and slide the shaft back in. Then tighten up the bolts. If you want to have trouble free bearings drill out the axle tube at the bearingand tap the hole to accept a zerk (grease) fitting. I did this to mine and the bearings have not failed since. Steve Nordby 1982 WAgoneer Plymouth Ma[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:36:57 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Legacy of the FSJ......correction Hey, for 1947 is was *sporty*. And I have an ad that shows 6 very happy hunters in one. Landen Schooler FSW the First SUV! 68 Wagoneer wrote: > > Oh, gosh. Not this again! They've been debating the first SUV deal on > rec.autos 4x4 for months! > > I love the early Willys wagons, just ask Mark. I talk about them, a lot. > They're very utilitarian. But I wouldn't label them very sporty (as in > Sport Utility Vehicle). > > ======================================= > Henry Padilla > '68 Jeep Wagoneer > Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser > jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com > > ---------- > > From: Landen Schooler (the Scotsman) <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> > > To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com> > > Subject: Re: Legacy of the FSJ......correction > > Date: Tuesday, April 15, 1997 1:46 PM > > > > Pat Jorden wrote: > > > > > > I think the public if rather fickle in what is > > > desirable. > > > > > > Another hot seller like the Land Cruiser is the > > > somewhat older chevy pickups. They are showing > > > up more in the truck magazines, and they have > > > quite a large base of available parts. > > > > > > Kind of a self perpetuating thing... A vehicle > > > gets popular and then more parts are made for it > > > so it gets more easily restored and then there's > > > more on the road and they become more popular, > > > and so-on... > > > > > > I like FSJs because I fell in love with the > > > Cherokee Chief when I was in High School at a > > > new car show...good reason :) > > > > > > But they do have lots of good attributes: > > > > > > > > > Note: the 1947 Willys 4x4 Wagon is the first SUV. > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:51:41 -0700 From: "Landen Schooler (the Scotsman)" <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: My thoughts on the model 20 axle bearings Gee, this nothing new. All three of my FSW came with Spicer/Dana 44s have greasable rear axle bearings from the Factory. :-D Landen Schooler FSW The First SUV! snordby-at-topcat.bridgew.edu wrote: > > I have the wonderfull amc rearend. Yes many bearings have failed. Take the > backingplate bolts out and slide the axleshaft out. Next cut the bearing off. > Press a new one on and slide the shaft back in. Then tighten up the bolts. > If you want to have trouble free bearings drill out the axle tube at the bearingand tap the hole to accept a zerk (grease) fitting. I did this to mine and > the bearings have not failed since. > Steve Nordby > 1982 WAgoneer > Plymouth Ma > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:09:47 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Rear Tire carrier/Canvas cover On Apr 18, 9:03am, 68 Wagoneer wrote: > Subject: Re: Rear Tire carrier/Canvas cover > > sheetmetal. Maybe one of you engineer types can design a rack that'll hold > more weight and will fit a 31 or 33 inch spare, gas can, tools, etc and > rides fairly high behind the tailgate and only connects to the receiver or > maybe the bumper mounts!? > >-- End of excerpt from 68 Wagoneer Only problem with using the bumper mounts is getting the tailgate open....unless you had some kind of hinge or quick release setup to allow it to move..... hmmm...... I'll have to think about this one.... Jeff Too busy to design bumpers (still) and wanting to design tire mount...[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:09:21 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com> Subject: 10.1 compression? vs 455 Buick?? REALLY NOW! BTW I found '67 430 heads for my 455!! >CARTWHEELS! EXHALTATIONS!! GENERAL TOMFOOLERY!! 10:1 compression! Bigger >ports! AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! > >Brad Feick > Hi Brad, THIS IS NOT FSJ RELATED.... I hope with that 10.1 compression ratio you don't run into the same problem I have had for years. My Vette is 11.1....11.1 REQUIRES 100 octane fuel <remember the old 260 Sunoco?> So to keep the engine from pinging or predetonating I must doctor the fuel. This can be done several ways, I've tried them all, they are; 1. Buy 115 octane racing fuel at racetracks $3+ per gallon (not for street use, you'll have to lie) 2. Use an MSD water/alcohol injection system, to cool the heads at detonation. 3. Retard your timing to an unbelievable setting (ugh) away goes your h.p. 4. Buy Real Lead and 104+ octane booster....expensive and falls short of the goal. 5. Buy the original Methl-ethyl ???? that was used to make 100 octane ethyl gasoline. This product was discontinued but still available. I just bought 6 gallons for $150, it will do 65 tankfulls in the Vette. High compression is/was cool, but in today's world it's way too much of a pain in the a**. Remember my engine is a 1969 and does NOT have hardened valve seats, I *must* have lead in my fuel. You might want to consider dropping the CR to 9.1 The above is from experience. Been there, doing that. Sorry for off topic post. C'ya Joe- 79 Chief http://www.mindspring.com/~jsego > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 13:27:13 -0500 From: jorden-at-mopac.amd.com (Pat Jorden) Subject: one more vote for ken wetherall... hi ken, got my issue of four wheeler today. sad to see your's is the only FSJ, except for maybe the '69 M715 on page 63... will vote for that one and yours on page 44... as an interesting note: on the way to dropping off my son to his school, i noticed a FSJ wagoneer parked behind some apartments. It wasn't very easy to see, and it had the hood up and also a tarp over the tailgate window. I thought; yep, bonafide FSJ... guess i was feeling a little depressed about all of the work needing to be done on mine. Anyway, yesterday my wife tells me "did you see that jeep over near our son's school? its got the same tarp on it as yours!!" I was happy that she spotted it amongst all of the visual noise in the area, but it's kinda a sad testimony to the genus... i have decided to continue driving my jeep this summer, get my truck fixed up (toyota), and then tear heavily into my jeep this winter (plans, plans) rebuilding the motor hopefully.... we'll see... pat 74 cherokee (not a chief, just an indian) 3602V, standard batch of options...[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:59:56 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: Mailing list sounds cool. my first FSJ was a 67 with the stock 327, 3 on a tree, etc. Dana 60's, wow. Serious setup... Gotta see the pictures of that one... The instructions are on the main ORC fsj page, as well as my personal page. If you have trouble let me know, I can email the text. Only a few rules: 1) no flames, 2) no foul language, 3) keep it family oriented and 4) mostly FSJ (we wander sometimes... if you don't like it, don't whine, just delete the ones you don't want to read... :) The list has been going in one form or another for what seems like for ever... It all started with this guy in Fargo, ND and me on rec.autos.4x4, then we met "super" Ken, and Michael, and we all had a few more jump in, doc was about the next to last one in and we started a listserver on Zynet, which went tango uniform a few months later and the list, which had grown to around 40 or 50 of us, ended up being routed from my "cc" list... then Sam came along and has been hosting us on tehabi.com. We're looking at migrating the list to a new server we're getting at Off-Road.com, hey, it's going in tomorrow, cool... anyway, that's the plan. Send a picture via email (jpg prefered) or snail mail a photo and email a more eloborate description and I'll build ya a page... (snail mail to: john meister, 14809 State Route 9 SE, Snohomish, WA 98296, include SASE for safe return of your pix. Otherwise they'll end up in that big pile of photos next to the scanner, or in the milk carton over there of all my pictures, or up in the second drawer of my file cabinet.... One of these days I have to figure out how to scan in slides, have about 5,000 shots from europe... :) Oh, btw, Joe Sego has more FSJ stickers left, they are cool, dishwasher tolerant even, and have survived 2 round trips to LA on my luggage even... :) Just ask the question of Joe when ya get on the list and he'll be happy to provide details. ttyl, john > I have a 1965 Kaiser Wagon and i'd like to be on your mailing list. I > think you'd all get a kick out of it. It has dana 60's front and rear > with 4.10's, a ford 390, NP 435 trans, NP 205 transfer, 20,000 lb pto > winch, full internal rollcage, custom dash, etc. It routes like a > cadillac. Thanks for you time. > > > James Fitzgerald > jfitzger-at-vt.edu > > ********************************************************** john-at- http://www. Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj ********************************************************** no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace **********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:03:11 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: Norwegian Wagoneer update Frank, On that alternator problem, I had a similar deal in my Javelin a few years back. Check the light alternator warning light bulb (if it has one). Also you might check your ignition switch and make sure it is providing the field electrical supply that the alternator needs. You may have already checked this, but it's a thought. All I did was replace the bulb in my Javelin, it had burned out. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:07:27 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: 73' Wagoneer Restored Classic Ryan, passing this along to the FSJ-list. It might be helpful if you were to let us know whereabouts you are. Sounds like a nice rig. Any idea of what you'd like to get out of it? One of the guys was trying to sell a grille, here's how he advertised it: <grin> >brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com. > >I'd like to get $50,000 for the set up but I think that may be a bit >high so make me an offer. As a data point, I paid about $100 for >the complete swap to a '78. > >John Brewer So, based on that I'd say you could start asking about $1.2 million, so long as you're willing to accept a little less. :) If you decide to keep it, you're welcome to subscribe to the FSJ-list, instructions on my page and on ORC fsj page. Rules are simple, 1) no flames, 2) no foul language, 3) keep it family oriented, and 4) keep it mostly FSJ... best wishes either way... later, john meister > TO: JOHN AND ALL THE JEEP GOOROOS > > I am the owner of a 1973 jeep wagoneer. I have been restoring it for > the last year and half, but I have recently ran out of time and recorces > to continue. Maybe you can help. I have grown emotionaly attached to > this vehicle so it is hard for me to say that i am considering the > possibe sale of it. That is why I am writing you. I feel that only a > true FSJ enthusiast will appreceate this vehical for what it is. let me > tell you a little bit about it. > It is a 1973 full size jeep wagoneer, with the 360 motor, the turbo > hydra-mattic 400 transmision, and quadra-traction. the moter has not > been rebuilt but it still runs very strong. The transmission has been > completly rebuilt as well as the quadra-traction. Almost the entire > drive train has been reworked, incuding new cv joins, new u-joints, new > rear drive line and all 4 wheel bearings have been replaced. the > suspension system has also been reworked, new shocks and springs. the > entire braking system has been replaced with new parts, such as, new > vacuum booster, new master cylinder, new proportioning valve, new brake > cylinders, and new pads and rotors. it is also equipped with dual > exhaust and dual glass packs. This jeep has the full chrome package all > the way around and a tow package installed. cant forget the almost new > pathfinder all terain tires mounted on the stock rims. But the most > beautiful part of the whole vehical is the fresh paint job. The color > is called moss green and the same color can be found on the new 1997 > cherokees and wranglers. unlike the the wranglers most of which have a > single stage paint job. this wagoneer was done in base clear with about > 4 coats of clear for extra durability. you will not find a single dent > or any rust. No corners were cut on the body work of this vehical, > instead of using a lot of bondo I repleaced whole panels including both > rear quarters and the tail gate which by the way is electric and fully > functioning. the only thing left is the interior, the dash board has > been repainted to match the outside and the vinyl portion of the dash > has been redone in black. the only thing that needs to be completed to > make this a comlete and beautiful truck is the carpet, headliner, and > possibley seats all of which were peviosly red. > this wagoneer has been in storage for the last 2 years and she is > ich'in to get back out on the road. I have not completly decided to > sell and i might still fininsh the restoration. the main reason why I > have e-mailed you is to see if you or anybody you know or any of your > viewers might be interested in this vehical. It is by all means a ONE > OF A KIND. I have put a lot of time and money into it and i would only > sell for a decent return. > I thank you for time to read this message. please feel free to post it > and or my e-mail address on your web page. possably in the future I > will be able to produce a photograph to send to you. but for now any > response would be greatly appreciated. > > thankyou again > sincerly > Ryan > e-mail address > apollo-at-isomedia.com > > ********************************************************** john-at- http://www. Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj ********************************************************** no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace **********************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 14:08:03 -0500 From: "Jeff Gunn" <jgunn-at-hou.varco.com> Subject: Re: What Carb to use? Any of the Edelbrock Performer 600 CFM series carbs should work, but only one or two of them have the EGR port on the back of the carb (I think). I would go to Edelbrock direct on this if I were you, but if you buy the Edelbrock Performer EGR manifold, and one of the 600 CFM Performer carbs with electric choke I think they are considered the "smog-friendly" carbs. Don't have a catalog in front of me but this seems to be the way it is. Jeff[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 12:12:03 +0000 From: "john meister" <john-at-> Subject: Re: APB - VIDEO CAPTURE CARD I'm definetly open to ideas. I'm kind of a still photographer type, you wouldn't want to watch my videos without Dramadine... :) So I'm clueless about video. I just know I want that picture of Super Ken going over those rocks on a web page somewhere, somehow. It is absolutely awesome. And I suspect that Tom's WideTrack shots are equally as impressive... I would be willing to install all three, or four or whatever on ORC so anybody and everybody can view it one way or t' other... great ideas. but I'll need a little info on how to proceed. Y'all can just email the file as an attachment and provide detailed instructions on what to do with it. I'll park it up on ORC without questions asked, but it dang well better be a picture of an FSJ doing something... :) thanx, john > Hi, John. On the video capture idea, is there a way to convert the file to > play on Real Player? That way, we could get more video on the web page with > little waiting time since it would just need to be buffered and not > downloaded, and could be played "real time". > > ======================================= > Henry Padilla > '68 Jeep Wagoneer > Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser > jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com > > ********************************************************** john-at- http://www. Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold Jeep Wagoneer Limited - 81 SJ & 88 xj ********************************************************** no Jesus = no peace ^ know Jesus = know peace **********************************************************[Back to Top]
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