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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:42:43 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: need dash info PDQ!!

when did AMC change the dash from the rectangle Kaiser style,
to their 3 circle style??


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  Sincerely

  kenneth e. wetherall               If a Wagoneer can go where a 
  kenns-at-concentric.net                  CJ can go, then it's a 
                                            Super Wagoneer.

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 17:45:12 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation/John's son's Jeep

gun collection..hmmmmm  yum!! ;)
email private with contents!! will trade info for stories!!

Sc0 wrote:
> 
> Something wrong with teens?
> 
> I'm 17 ya know........
> And i've personally never had a problem listening to anyone, it's the part
> of actually "doing" what is said that I have trouble with...
> 
> 17, a gun collection, fixing to graduate, and drive a FSJ.
> I'm setup....
> 
-- 
  Sincerely

  kenneth e. wetherall               If a Wagoneer can go where a 
  kenns-at-concentric.net                  CJ can go, then it's a 
                                            Super Wagoneer.

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Date:  28 Apr 97 20:44:24 EDT
From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Propane/smog info

P)>  This is a do-it-yourself propane conversion guide.  He says there's only
P)>  a tailpipe test, no visual.  Plus, for $35/yr, you can get a sales tax
P)>  exemption on propane.  Also, there's an income tax credit of $2500 for
P)>  the conversion.
P)>  
P)>  Tom Anhalt
P)>  '81 Cherokee Laredo

Thankyou tom, I'll check it out :>

			Karl Streich


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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:03:13 -0700
From: Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Name Your Favorite 4x4 Commercial


My favorite is the one where 3 people are flinging a frisbee between mesa
tops, one misses it, and they all want to drive their Jeeps down to
retrieve it.  (Growing up in New Mexico makes you appreciate mesas!)

          -Mike A.




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From: Jeffrey G. Hemmet <jgh-at-indy.sr.unh.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.4x4
Date: Monday, April 28, 1997 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: Name Your Favorite 4x4 Commercial

>
>How about the jeep add, I think for a cherokee, where some
>guy pulls up in a car to a gas station in the desert and asks how to
>get to a particular town.  The gas attendant replies something
>like "Go up the road 20 miles, take a left on west rd, go another
>15 miles, take your third left, then five miles further go right
>at the second light, then it's only 12 miles further ahead".
>Then a woman in a cherokee pulls up and asks how to get to the same town,
>and he points to a dirt track leading into the mountains and says "its
>just up over those hills", and she pulls off the road and heads up the
>track towards the mountians.
>
>                              -Jeff
>
>
>




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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 18:14:31 -0700
From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
Subject: Re: Jeeps with 350 Buicks

the buick has a 3.8 bore, is front dist, and produces
the most SAE torque installed in any OEM fsj to date!!!

Mike_Ahlmann-at-infinity.com wrote:
> 
>      I'm interested in this too.  What are the significant differences
> between a Chevy 350 and a Buick 350.  Does the Buick use more aluminum
> parts bolted to the same block?  Inquiring minds want to know!
> 
>           Mike A.
> 

-- 
  Sincerely

  kenneth e. wetherall               If a Wagoneer can go where a 
  kenns-at-concentric.net                  CJ can go, then it's a 
                                            Super Wagoneer.

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 21:59:04 -0400
From: "David P. Dusenbury" <dp-at-interpath.com>
Subject: GW-that danged chrome strip

Anybody had any luck replacing the chrome strip that runs across the top
of the front windshield on late model Grand Wagoneer's??  Mine is a '90,
and this strip was loose in the back when I bought it.  I've tried, but
cannot get it to click in and stay.

I recently had new glass and rubber seal put in, the body shop put it
back on (it looked about right), about a mile later it clanged down the
road.

Ideas?

DP...

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 97 20:59:30 EDT
From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK)
Subject: RE: Jeeps with 350 Buicks

I'm interested in this too.  What are the significant differences
between a Chevy 350 and a Buick 350.  Does the Buick use more aluminum
parts bolted to the same block?  Inquiring minds want to know!
>>>>
The Buick is an ENTIRELY different motor sharing only the displacement with 
the Chevy.  It is well suited for the FSJ application in that it makes alot of
torque -at- low RPM.  The Buick design lends itself to torque.  It has a 90 deg 
cyl bank separation as opposed to Chevy's 60 deg.  It uses a timing cover 
set-up similar to AMC with the distributor in the front.  HEI can readily be 
fitted from a later Buick.  It uses the excellent but misunderstood and 
owner-inflicted Q-jet carb.  There are many aftermarket parts available for 
the Buick.  It uses rocker shafts instead of individual rockers.  Other than 
that MAYBE the thermostat is the same as the Chevy-otherwise they are as 
different as a Hemi and a Pontiac.  Buick made an all aluminum V8 in the early
60s, but that has nothing to do with the venerable cast 350.

Brad Feick

     


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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:34:42 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: de dots vs. de commas

> >>> please E-mail DIRRECT to me at <<<104346,766-at-Compuserve.com
> 
> Sorry, I couldn't. Lotus Notes sees 104346 and 766-at-Compuserve.com as
> different addresses because it delineates using commas.
> 
> Can you send me a direct reply so I know that you saw this?
> 

You have to convert the commas to dots...

Aren't proprietary systems wonderful?

john
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   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:36:50 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: water leak/front carpet

>
> On 28 Apr 1997, Michael Baxter wrote:
>> >  It's a little long for the list. I'll send it to you via 
e-mail. Anyone else  want a copy?

Michael, this is on the FSJ-tech web page on ORC, right?

and on doc's site?   and on yours, right?

just checking...

john

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 john-at-   http://www.
   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:39:12 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: The Starfleet Cruise Control

this is either a vacuum leak or a failing servo unit...
I've had this happen before... I think it was the servo unit...

john


> 
> > Thanks, I'll try this on my '90.  Within the past few days, it has
> > started to accelerate all on it's own when under cruise.  Maybe set at
> > sixty (for many miles), the next thing you are aware is that you are
> > accelerating, and look down...it's already up to seventy or so.
> 
> My 88 Gw does the exact same thing.  I have not tried cleaning the cruise
> yet.
> 
> Jeff Hess
> 1988 Grand Wagoneer 
> http://edgerton.mn.frontiercomm.net/~jhess169/welcome.htm
> 
> 
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JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 19:56:07 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: teens, pain and history... :-)

> Something wrong with teens?

not usually, just the male ones between 13 and 19....  :-)
   (been there, done that...)
----------------
> I'm 17 ya know........

no, didn't...  AND that speaks highly of you!!!  You're hanging out 
with a wide range of ages up to including balding old fogies like 
Joe, doc and me...  (Joe is older than me.... but probably has more 
hare, er hair...  probably types better too...  :-)   (doc is the 
same age as my "kid" sister, but that's almost older than 
dirt too... :-)
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> And i've personally never had a problem listening to anyone, it's the part
> of actually "doing" what is said that I have trouble with...

exactly.

(no, seriously, there's nothing wrong with most teens.  It's just 
they can be a bit frustrating because we see them making the same 
boneheaded mistakes that we made when we were told by our parents not 
to make them... :-)

The fact that you're on this list says a few good things about you.  
I'm sure most of the kids that we're "griping" about here are first 
class decent kids who aren't in any serious kind of trouble or 
anything like that...

If there were a real problem you wouldn' t hear about it.  The 
really painful stuff is only shared with close friends...   Trust me, 
there has been some pain, and it doesn't show up on the list...   The 
kidding is good natured...    

Did you know how the city of Everett  here in Washington got it's 
name?    Seems the land developers were trying to decide on a name 
and somehow it came about to name it after the son of one of the 
prime developers cause he was growing like a weed and had an 
incredible appetite....  :-)    1800's teen humor...

later,
john
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 john-at-   http://www.
   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:02:17 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re:

One of my contracting gigs had a vax in the middle of part of the 
system... yech.   

I'll have to go up to the web site and mail it to ya...  I'm back in 
real time, but not a problem commander, er admiral.....

er, problem, they don't go that high yet... you'll have to ask 
someone else my friend...  (actually I'll cc the list so someone can 
forward 282 to ya...)

later,
john


> GREETINGS JOHN!
> 
> GOOD LUCK WITH OLD BLUE'S TRANSPLANT.  CAN YOU PLEASE RESEND THE FSJ LIST
> 282 TO ME.  THANKS IN ADVANCE.
> 
> I HATE THIS VAX.  ARE THERE REAL EMPLOYERS WHO LET US PLAY WITH COMPUTERS
> ALL DAY AND GET PAID FOR IT?  IF SO DO THEY ACTUALLY LET THEIR MIS GROUPS
> HAVE A BUDGET; AND EQUIPMENT THAT ISN'T FROM THE STONE AGE?
> 
> 
> 
> UNTIL THE NEXT DIMENSION,
> ADMIRAL "COLUCH."
> STARFLEET HEADQUARTERS
> OHIO POST
> END
> TRANSMISSION...............................................................
> 
> 
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 john-at-   http://www.
   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
**********************************************************

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:11:31 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: Unfair recruiting practices...

Dear Sir,

It is apparent that you are in violation of unwritten, non-codified, 
anti-FSJ grouping ordinances relevant and pursuant to disseminated 
communications pertaining to said adhesive documents previously 
distributed via electronic and interstate commerce.   

Other members of this particular organization have noted that you are 
enticing membership across state boundaries through the use of 
special adhesive documents not available to other members of the 
previously stated organization, hereinafter refered to as the 
organization.  

This notice shall serve to clearly annunciate and record the protest 
of those said members.

"Hey dude, like it's not fair, we want cool stickers too!!!!!  We're 
gonna tell on you!!!!   You gunkies!"

not signed this day
:-) 

> Hidy-Ho FSJers,
> Especially those in the Midwest.  Anyone interested
> in becoming a member of the most elite FSJ chaspter
> in the whole danged world?   ....

I'll even supply cool
> one of a kind FSJ Midwest decals :-)
> 
> C'ya
> Joe-
 

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:14:08 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: Introduction/Tow ratings?

I posted the ratings from my 81 manual...   IT's apparent that 
earlier models with lower gear ratios and more hp shouldn't have any 
problems...

Besides, Old Blue has successfully pulled 37,000 lbs about 15 feet...
 then we ran like the dickens to get out of the way... :-)

john
:-)


> Dean Morgan <dean-at-onyxgroup.com> writes:
> 
>  >> My boat weighs about 4500 lbs = and I think I'm in the safe range of my
> Jeep but I haven't been able to = find a straight answer on what the max tow
> rating is for it.
>  <<
> 
>  Dean, I'm almost sure Jeep never rated the '70s FSJs. As long as you have a 3
> row radiator or better, 4500 lbs. should be fine for your Wag.
> 
>  My '79 Cherokee with 3.54 axle gears (yours are probably 3.07) and a 3 row
> radiator (has a 4 row now) was able to tow 7,000 lbs but, I would say that's
> pushing it a little at my altitude of 4,000-5,000 ft.
> 
>  My Cherokee pulls my 5,000 lb trailer with relative ease.
> 
>  -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com
>  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
>  From Reno, NV USA on 28-Apr-1997 at 12:04:05 PDT
> 
> !^NavFont01F000AMGfHGoHHEFDD76
> 
> 
> 
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 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:18:05 -0500
From: "Sc0" <jjd-at-flex.net>
Subject: Re:  need dash info PDQ!!

Has to be '73.
My '72 has the rectangular guage, with the little guages inside.
'73 has the round circle guages.
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From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com>
Date: Monday, April 28, 1997 9:46 PM
Subject: need dash info PDQ!!

>when did AMC change the dash from the rectangle Kaiser style,
>to their 3 circle style??
>
>
>--
>  Sincerely
>
>  kenneth e. wetherall               If a Wagoneer can go where a
>  kenns-at-concentric.net                  CJ can go, then it's a
>                                            Super Wagoneer.
>
>
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:19:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sheppard1-at-aol.com
Subject: water leak info

Michael Baxter,
Thanks for the tailgate switch problem information which my wife found at the
IFSY site.
It will save me alot of time!!!!!

We also found the water leak information at the IFSJ site, thanks again!!
I will go there FIRST the next time a problem comes up.
Andrew Shepppard
89 GW

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:25:58 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: need dash info PDQ!!

according to my standard catalog of AMC, in 1973...  Color coded 
instrumentation was marked with international symbols and included 
two new type of gauges: an ammeter and a clock.  (pg 272)

hope that helps...

john


> when did AMC change the dash from the rectangle Kaiser style,
> to their 3 circle style??
> 
> 
> -- 
>   Sincerely
> 
>   kenneth e. wetherall               If a Wagoneer can go where a 
>   kenns-at-concentric.net                  CJ can go, then it's a 
>                                             Super Wagoneer.
> 
> 
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 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
**********************************************************

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:20:01 -0500
From: "68 Wagoneer" <jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com>
Subject: Re: shrouds & treads...

It's too narrow by about 1"-2" on either side, and a little too short too.

=======================================
Henry Padilla
'68 Jeep Wagoneer
Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser
jeepwagoneer-at-gyral.com

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> From: SuperKen <kenns-at-concentric.net>
> To: Multiple recipients of <fsj-list-at-listserver.tehabi.com>
> Subject: Re: shrouds & treads...
> Date: Monday, April 28, 1997 6:57 PM
> 
> y wouldnt it fit, i got mine off a late FSJ, but the
> paint on the shroud said it was from a i6! and
> it fit the OEM rad in the Super!!
> 
> 68 Wagoneer wrote:
> > 
> > I found a fan shroud from a 360 J-truck at Smiths last year. Mark was
w/
> > me; Mark, do you remember the year of that truck? Anyway, I bought it
for
> > $20 hoping it might fit Ole Bessy. It didn't. Anyone need it?
> > 
> > =======================================
> -- 
>   Sincerely
> 
>   kenneth e. wetherall               If a Wagoneer can go where a 
>   kenns-at-concentric.net                  CJ can go, then it's a 
>                                             Super Wagoneer.
> 
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:43:10 PDT
From: "wallace rees" <seerlaw-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: info.

I was setting here at work watching the rain, and finishing up reading my e-mail 
which you guys.  I had a couple of questions.  My next big project on my 83 is 
ring and pioion change, I currently have 3.31 w/31" tires. I would like to go to 
3.73 but, looking at my books it would only give me 250 rmp at 60mph more, is 
this worth the cost of about 500.00? also my neighbor  is matting a 51 jeep w/a 
83 cj and he has a used set of 3.73  for the rear for sale, is it good to buy 
used ring and pioions?   I currently have a four barrel autolite but I was 
wondering if the holley is better?   Does any have any ideas for repairing torn 
leather ulpholstery in both the driver and passanger seats?                                                                 
Hey John I be coming up your way in the next few months.  My daughter who is 
21,moved to a small town out side seattle , we thought she was justgoing to 
visit.  So I'll let you know, to see if you will be around.  My wife may come if 
sheis talking to my daughter.  Boy do I know about kids, I still have a girl 10, 
a boy 13, a boy 17, (who thinks he's the new mike jorden) I' a jazz fan.                         
Joe glad to hear my decals are being sent out, can't wait to put them on.  Any 
thought on hats?  If you have done them I would like to get one, got to keep my 
bald head out of the sun.                       I was interested in some of the 
guys statements on what they pay for used parts, seemed kinda high.  We have 
soom good wrecking yards here in Idaho falls but there is one that half the time  
the owner asks to make an offer and most of the time he takes the offer.   So 
far I got a 96 amp alt. for 10.00, a factory trans cooler for 10.00, a factory 
receiver hitch for 35.00 5000 lbs.  If any one needs help with parts let me know 
I'll see what I can find, I'am one of those guys that loves wrecking yards.                                                                                                                         
Wallace Rees                                                          83 FSJ                                                                
Idaho Falls, Id.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:43:50 PDT
From: "wallace rees" <seerlaw-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: info.

I was setting here at work watching the rain, and finishing up reading my e-mail 
which you guys.  I had a couple of questions.  My next big project on my 83 is 
ring and pioion change, I currently have 3.31 w/31" tires. I would like to go to 
3.73 but, looking at my books it would only give me 250 rmp at 60mph more, is 
this worth the cost of about 500.00? also my neighbor  is matting a 51 jeep w/a 
83 cj and he has a used set of 3.73  for the rear for sale, is it good to buy 
used ring and pioions?   I currently have a four barrel autolite but I was 
wondering if the holley is better?   Does any have any ideas for repairing torn 
leather ulpholstery in both the driver and passanger seats?                                                                 
Hey John I be coming up your way in the next few months.  My daughter who is 
21,moved to a small town out side seattle , we thought she was justgoing to 
visit.  So I'll let you know, to see if you will be around.  My wife may come if 
sheis talking to my daughter.  Boy do I know about kids, I still have a girl 10, 
a boy 13, a boy 17, (who thinks he's the new mike jorden) I' a jazz fan.                         
Joe glad to hear my decals are being sent out, can't wait to put them on.  Any 
thought on hats?  If you have done them I would like to get one, got to keep my 
bald head out of the sun.                       I was interested in some of the 
guys statements on what they pay for used parts, seemed kinda high.  We have 
soom good wrecking yards here in Idaho falls but there is one that half the time  
the owner asks to make an offer and most of the time he takes the offer.   So 
far I got a 96 amp alt. for 10.00, a factory trans cooler for 10.00, a factory 
receiver hitch for 35.00 5000 lbs.  If any one needs help with parts let me know 
I'll see what I can find, I'am one of those guys that loves wrecking yards.                                                                                                                         
Wallace Rees                                                          83 FSJ                                                                
Idaho Falls, Id.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 20:53:12 PDT
From: "wallace rees" <seerlaw-at-hotmail.com>
Subject: 4X4 Commercial

I have to agree with Mike the one with the frisbee is the best and my youngest 
son agrees.                                                                               
W. Rees                                                


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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:07:41 -0500
From: Jim Weisflock <mrmonk-at-basec.net>
Subject: Re: Hood Insulation/John's son's Jeep

Sc0 wrote:
> 17, a gun collection, fixing to graduate, and drive a FSJ.
> I'm setup....
> 
> >hey, my daughter is great...  she listens, and then CORRECTS me!!!
> >
> >and she's usually right... :)   (will be 17 in July...)
> >
> >john

Don't forget me, James R., and I thought I was the youngest FSJ nut on
here! (besides John's son).  17, drives the Wag and Dodge Shadow ES
V6(soon to be 69-71 AMC muscle of somesort, too many other kids have
muscle cars on grudge night, did smoke a 5.0 Rustang tho), collects
anime & manga, anime & manga artist, and AMC nut.   
-- 
James R.                  
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1987 AMC Jeep Grand Wagoneer (winter wheels)
(360 V8 2bbl., 727 AUTO, Selec-Trac, 33" Glasspack exhaust, 
 Cobra 40 channel CB, Uniroyal Sport King A/Ts 30x9.5x15s,
 Pioneer DEH-225 CD, 99,000 miles)
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1992 Dodge Shadow ES convertible  (summer wheels and chick magnet)
(3.0 V6 MPI, auto, dual exahaust, ES suspension, aluminum wheels,
27,000 miles, best 0-60 8.7 secs, yet to determine quarter mile.)
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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 23:14:06 -0500
From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: teens, pain and history... :-)

At 07:56 PM 4/28/97 +0000, you wrote:
>> Something wrong with teens?
>
>not usually, just the male ones between 13 and 19....  :-)
>   (been there, done that...)
>----------------
>> I'm 17 ya know........
>
>no, didn't...  AND that speaks highly of you!!!  You're hanging out 
>with a wide range of ages up to including balding old fogies like 
>Joe, doc and me...  (Joe is older than me.... but probably has more 
>hare, er hair...  probably types better too...  :-)   (doc is the 

Yeah I'm older but I am not the oldest on the list. I won't even
mention who is.  Hair?  Yeah I have plenty, but it's gray, but
hey, that's still better than no hair!!!!

I must say, for a 17 year old, you are the exception to the rule.
Congrats to your parents!!

C'ya
Joe-




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Date:  Mon, 28 Apr 1997 22:00:22 -0700
From: "Robert Close" <rclose-at-humboldt1.com>
Subject: Re: 66' Wagoneer



What year doors are compatible with my 66'.  I saw a really nice 69' that
had arm rests.  That sure would be a nice feature.  I need to replace the
doors due to rust anyway.  


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Date:  29 Apr 97 01:45:53 EDT
From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Home Page update & Holiday for Me

Fellow inmates,

 I performed a minor update on my home page today. It's only been 6 months
since last I did this task. You clowns have managed to visit my page 770 times
since Feb. 3! But 766 of those visits were made by Doc trying to download my
corrupt .zip files. The changes include:

 * The how to grease your driveshafts FAQ has been enhanced from the version
that posted here and is now present. Follow the Full-Size Jeep Links off of
the main page.

 * Compuserve's unkind gesture to my How To zip files is fixed. They sent me a
message saying there had been a "slight" problem with the server my page is on
a few months back. It said "all your files are undamaged." Yea right...and
FSJs fly. (Thanks Doc for letting me know)

 * I added a link to the ORC FSJ site. I know....it's about time eh? Plus, I
added links to the two archive sites. Click the Full-Size Jeep Links tag.

 * I added a link to the J-Truck Home Page.

 * Changed the front page humor. It's too long and won't last for long so
check it out.

 * I added a virtual tour of the B-727 flight deck. Follow the Birds link and
then the Heavy Metal link.

 * I added David ?'s home page. You can also find it on the Full-Size Jeep
Links.

 * Updated Joe Sego's URL.

 And at least 10 more changes that I wrote down but, can't find right now. I
have a better picture of me to scan and the pics. from the Winter Fun Fest.
Look for them sometime within 6 months of my return from Mexico next week :-)

 I deserve this vacation too! I have to get away from you little %^$#s.
Really, I'm looking forward to sitting around the pool all day doing
absolutely nothing.

 I can empathize with John in a big way. I wasn't making a whole bunch of
noise but, I thought I found a new employer. I knew a couple of guys flying
for a local charter outfit right here in Reno called Great American Airways.
One of them was the head of training. My resume was walked through personally
and I was hoping for an interview before the next class started. Initial
indications were that my lack of recent experience wasn't a big problem. They
were flying 7 MD-8Xs and 2 DC-9-10s. Rumor was that 2 DC-10s were coming soon.
The pay wasn't as good as Patriot and I did have to put-up a $7,000 training
bond for 2 years (read toss a fifty on the dresser on your way out to the line
:-(  ). I wasn't real excited about Wendover, NV being my domicile but, I
could tolerate it for the opportunity to get back in the saddle again.

 Anyway, the FAA jerked their operating certificate and they filed for Ch. 11
BR protection last week. It's like deja-vu. Exact same thing as Patriot except
it was Ch. 7 BR. The FAA cited record keeping inconsistencies. Oh well...game
over. Return to start.

 I'll put the list in postpone mode sometime tomorrow. If you have anything
you feel like I can help with, stuff it in my e-mailbox. I'll try to have a
margarita for each and every one of you :-).

 -- Michael Baxter, 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter
 From Reno, NV USA on 28-Apr-1997 at 22:42:55 PDT

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Date:  29 Apr 97 02:57:33 EDT
From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Brad's Broken & Smelly Jeep

>with infants!  She doesn't like my jeep of couse.  She says its broken
>and smells funny.

>-brad

Some day she'll appreciate that  " smell "
I think.............   ??   (G)

Eddie in Vancouver


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Date:  29 Apr 97 02:57:38 EDT
From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Alisa  Gets  A  Wag

>well sorry for being so long winded, but this was the first car I have
>ever bought on my own so I am a little excited about it and I thought
>I would have the best luck finding an appreciative audience for this
>story here. any way I sincerly hope I have not been boring to 
>anyone<BG>
>til later
>Alisa

Alisa,

Sounds like you did a heck of a lot of homework before you bought your Jeep.
Certainly more than I would have.  (G)
But, the proper way to buy a FSJ, is to suddenly spot one on the side of
the road ( in any shape), repeat three times fast,  "  I want it, I want it, I
want it!!!!
and then pay any price just to get it home within 2 hours of  the first
siting.......:))

Welcome to the list  :)

Eddie in Vancouver, Canada, eh
Caretaker of Ol' White,  
'79 Cherokee  Wide Track  QT  AT  I6   169,400 miles
Dana 44's   3.54  gears,  Low Range Reduction Unit
31 x 10.50  Sport Kings  AT M+S
Factory Bush Bar


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Date:  Tue, 29 Apr 1997 00:11:06 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: Home Page update & Holiday for Me

>  I'll put the list in postpone mode sometime tomorrow. If you have anything
> 

Have a good time...   I'm getting down to the wire on a couple two or 
three possibilities...   One company requires a 28 mile commute, 
while that may not seem like much to some, but that's through the 
Eastside on I-405...  I look to spend anywhere from 45 minutes to an 
hour and a half on that stretch of asphalt every day...

The other job is about 15 miles away, but it's not exactly 
exciting...

Still trying to get back to Boeing...    and an FSJ buddy here in the 
Seattle area gave me a lead that might pan out, thanx Ron!   I 
finally got in touch with Randy, that would be an ideal commute, 
wouldn't even get near a freeway... :)

Don't get too much sun down there Michael, you'll look out of place 
when you get back....

later,
john
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 john-at-   http://www.
   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
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Date:  Tue, 29 Apr 1997 00:23:02 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: youngest FSJ nut...

Ok, Mark just turned 14 in March...   Brad, you've already admitted 
your daughter doesn't like your FSJ... :)   So, next to mark it looks 
like the Sco dude or james...    bday's gentlemen...    (you're 
really the only contenders since ya got licenses...   Mark will be 
able to drive around the field here, but not out of the yard... :-)

Looks like we're gonna do the 78 (?) J20.   I'll scan a picture of 
the back of it in later this week.   Tom will bring it over in the 
next couple of days...   It has a "new" transmission, a "replaced" 
engine, a new carb, new brakes, decent tires, a Jensen stereo, a 
canopy that's been extended for the long bed, a pair of side tool 
boxes (that might find their way onto my trailer... ) Quadratrac, 
etc.    It may have front end troubles...   Looks like we're gonna 
get it for about $1300, and we're still getting the grille off of my 
69 Wagoneer for it...    Mark better get busy around here, at $5 an 
hour he's got a lot of work to do to pay for this thing...   He's got 
a couple years before he gets to drive, if it ain't paid for, he 
ain't driving it...    Besides, I'm already convincing him that we 
should fix it up, paint it, sell it to pay Mom & Dad off, take the 
profit and put it toward another one...   We're also talking about 
buying my 69 back from Tom and going totally nuts with it and make it 
a serious off-road mud bogging type of rig...   (I'm sure the warden 
will veto this idea...  I think 4 jeeps, a buick, a trailer and a tow 
dolly are probably one or two sets of wheels over the load limit for 
her yard... :-)     She's so mean...   I only have THREE Jeeps for 
myself... Maybe if I let her have the little yellow one... :)     
(once I get old blue updated with whichever 4.0L I'm going to 
install, I won't care about the xj wag anymore, provided of course 
old blue dehydrates some with the smaller powerplant... :-)

later,
john

> Sc0 wrote:
> > 17..., and drive a FSJ.
>
> Don't forget me, James R., and I thought I was the youngest FSJ nut on
> here! (besides John's son).  17, 
********************************************************
 john-at-   http://www.
   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
**********************************************************

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Date:  Tue, 29 Apr 1997 00:37:01 +0000
From: "john meister" <john-at->
Subject: Re: info.

I'm looking to move to 3.73's as well...   currently have 2.72's...
don't know the answer to your question, but going to the 4.0L I 
figure lower gears will help get it moving...

used gears should be fine. 

I need an alternator for Old Blue...  Is that one for $10 still 
available??? Are there more?   Fed ex that puppy, please...!   I was 
gonna yank Old Blue's and just replace the diodes/regulator, but for 
$10... sheesh...    UPS might be able to express ship it...   I need 
it real soon...   Old Blue is kind of getting bed rest right now...  
:-)

I can have a check in the mail tomorrow, just let me know the address 
and the amount, or send it COD and I'll cover any of the costs...

I'm not sure what Old Blue has right now, but when I drop the 4.0L in 
I may build a custom unit for high output...   I've also got to 
modify the a/c setup...


 I've got a large enough battery that I can still use it for short 
errands...  Get home and throw it on the charger...  Glad the weather 
is mild...

We'll have to have another FSJ fest when you get here.  Roti is just 
down the road a little, Ron's not too far and we've got the 
Fisherman's Wife running around in Rufus the JeepDog...  Allan might 
paddle across the sound again... and we might just shake some of the 
lurkers out of the brush, I know there's a few around here still...  
And who knows, we might even get to meet the infamous Eddie the 
Vancouver FSJ'r...


> I was setting here at work watching the rain, and finishing up reading my e-mail 
> which you guys.  I had a couple of questions.  My next big project on my 83 is 
> ring and pioion change, I currently have 3.31 w/31" tires. I would like to go to 
> 3.73 but, looking at my books it would only give me 250 rmp at 60mph more, is 
> this worth the cost of about 500.00? also my neighbor  is matting a 51 jeep w/a 
> 83 cj and he has a used set of 3.73  for the rear for sale, is it good to buy 
> used ring and pioions?   I currently have a four barrel autolite but I was 
> wondering if the holley is better?   Does any have any ideas for repairing torn 
> leather ulpholstery in both the driver and passanger seats?                                                                 

I've seen some stuff that is like an epoxy...  Any upolstery shop 
should be able to help...

> Hey John I be coming up your way in the next few months.  My daughter who is 
> 21,moved to a small town out side seattle , we thought she was justgoing to 
> visit.  So I'll let you know, to see if you will be around.  My wife may come if 
> sheis talking to my daughter.  Boy do I know about kids, I still have a girl 10, 
> a boy 13, a boy 17, (who thinks he's the new mike jorden) I' a jazz fan.                         
> Joe glad to hear my decals are being sent out, can't wait to put them on.  Any 
> thought on hats?  If you have done them I would like to get one, got to keep my 
> bald head out of the sun.                    

Hey, this is a good idea!    Make the hat a color that doesn't show 
dirt or grease, but not too dark so we don't bake our brains when the 
sun comes out.   Joe, this time don't order a bazillion, and set the 
price so you recover your investment with ten to twenty percent of 
the stock left over...  This is America, you are allowed to make a 
little bit for your effort.   We go backwards sometimes trying not to 
be greedy...  It doesn't work to well if you're losing your backside 
trying to be a nice guy...   No one is going to be upset if you come 
out a few bucks ahead...


   I was interested in some of the 
> guys statements on what they pay for used parts, seemed kinda high.  We have 
> soom good wrecking yards here in Idaho falls but there is one that half the time  
> the owner asks to make an offer and most of the time he takes the offer.   So 
> far I got a 96 amp alt. for 10.00, a factory trans cooler for 10.00, a factory 
> receiver hitch for 35.00 5000 lbs.  If any one needs help with parts let me know 
> I'll see what I can find, I'am one of those guys that loves wrecking yards.                                                                                                                         
> Wallace Rees                                                          83 FSJ                                                                
> Idaho Falls, Id.                                                                                                                                                                                       > 

later,
john 
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 john-at-   http://www.
   ORC-FSJ =  http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/fsj
 Snohomish, WA USA - where Jeeps don't rust, they mold
JEEPS:(Wagoneer Limited 81 SJ & 88 xj)and Cherokee 77 SJ
   no Jesus = no peace <-> know Jesus = know peace
**********************************************************

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