Date: 08 Dec 96 03:09:40 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: 40th J-Series Anniversary - Ouray, CO 8/14/2002? > > Does anybody make a camera that could stand the strain, though? > <grin>. Hey, what do y'all think of window stickers of the IFSJA logo? > Complete with the www address? > > -Doc > Sounds good to me. Karl Streich 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:32:02 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: re: The Revival of the Two Whole Jeeps Idea >-Doc > > hey, we've got all kinds on this list, pilots, Jeep builders, etc... >any lawyers on the list? We may need y'all... > About all I can contribute is - I can build a nice garage to hide em in!! Guess I'd have to call it a "Fair Sized Joint" C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: 08 Dec 96 03:09:36 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Lonnggg E-mail lines > > Seriously, I think if I just remember to hit return at the end of each line, > then Netscape will be happy. > They always look fine to me when I get them back via the digest mode, so > thanks for letting > me know that they don't work too well in all cases. This one should be > O.K., let me know > if it isn't. How big is your monitor? If it is larger than ours you might see the part we can't. I find an 80 character wrap works well. Karl Streich 79 Chief :)[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 17:53:50 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: river city troubles...
the river's a risin'
it's been rainin' all day...
the buick hulk remains in the drive...
the big jeep is still stoppin' - sorta...
the little jeep was gonna get the little wheels, but
they want $80 to $125 to switch tires & rims...
I think I'd rather save my money and get Old Blue some
new shoes come spring. I was just concerned about the size
and weight for the little wag... running 235's on it. Have
the 215's on Old Blue... they both look silly...
one of Old Blue's tires fell off the roof of the
little wagoneer at 60 mph... man do tires bounce...
had to wade into one of the farmer's fields to retrieve it...
no damage to any passin' cars or the little wagoneer...
how in the heck that thing come off the roof remains a mystery,
wind??? I was on level highway, going straight... ????
the buick isn't dead cause of fuel but cause of spark...
$108.07 my cost for the new module...
the master cylinder for Old Blue at Schuck's is $38.36... might
wait and get all the stuff at NAPA or the dealer...
Well, gonna go get some parts to fix the Buick so I can wait
on doing Old Blue's brakes until I can scare up all the parts.
He's gonna need new front hoses, brake lines and calipers rebuilt...
Hey, ANYBODY KNOW OF GOOD BRAKE linings/pads? The crap I got from
Schucks doesn't do much to slow him down...
I'm so fed up with mechanics that do a half-(way) job... I'm still
steamin' over the front driveshaft on the little wag, the thing has
160,000 miles on it and the mech found the driveshaft coupling was
loose by the xfr case, so he lubes it, tightens it and reinstalls it...
fer cryin' out loud, now it's loose again, could frag my tranny and
underside... arghhhhh.... yeah, he saved me $30 in parts... the
lazy, shortcut takin' half-wit.... And then we could talk about the
other shortcut takin' half-wrench who was supposed to flush Old Blue's
brake lines and check everything out... the brake fluid looks like
an espresso... (ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BRAKE FLUID???)
guess if ya want somethin' done correctly, ya gotta do it yourself...
well, goin' back outside... haven't dried off from the last time...
leather gets heavy when wet...
I'll let you know how high the Snohomish River is...
later,
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 13:02:44 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: the Revival of the Two Whole Jeeps Idea >country... maybe one of 'em is a closet SJophile! > Isn't everybody? :) Doogie >-Doc > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 12:38:09 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: [No Subject] To whom it may concern: I received email the other day from a guy (Larry) and he had a question about tire sizes for his 87, and I was wondering if it would be alright to pass along info to have him join us here? Doogie[Back to Top]
Date: 08 Dec 96 03:09:46 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Q-Trac steering knuckle > I think this question was aimed at me... > I'm just outside Houston, Texas. From what I understand, there is a > shift lever of some type which needs to be mounted in the cab for the > low range unit. Do you have that also? I'm not sure if low range is > something I really need since I don't intend to do much off-roading, but > from what I've read, I may be drawn into it just because I own a Jeep > and I can go offroad. All I have is the reduction unit, but someone should be able to find a shift lever in a junkyard. If you dont get far off the road you may not need the reduction unit. Karl Streich 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 16:47:09 -0500
From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net>
Subject: New Subscriber
'diesel' john wrote:
> About the list. It's a nice friendly, family type list.
> There shall be NO flames, foul language or other unfriendly behavior.
> Please try to trim replies to quote only pertinent parts.
> Try to stay close to the topic of Full-Size Jeeps.
Sounds good to me.
> We're an unusual bunch who are concerned about list growth and the
> degregation of our list...
Although I will be adding to the growth of your list, I will try not to
be a source of degredation, (unless my flatfender fever seeps out
unexpectedly):-)
> Whereabouts are you? That almost looks like a Washington tag on your rig...
Home is in Virginia, tucked up against the mountains, used to be some
decent trails nearby until recent floods swept thru.
> Looks like you might find some replacement parts while on this list...
If you are talking about the missing grille pieces in the picture, I
have them. It is just that I was putting a transmission cooler on, and
hadn't finished yet, when I took the picture.
btw, nice picture of your finger... :)
The digital camera has the lens in an odd place, I think. BTW is it
acceptable to send pictures as attachments in these messages? I know
the take up a heck of a lot more space than simple messages.
Anxious to try this list out. I will write a brief history of my '77 if
anyone is interested. (I also own a '79 parts truck, but its history is
boring). Actually my '46 has the most stories to tell ... ouch,
something just slapped my hands :)
Later,
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Ron \_/ \_/ / \/ \
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 11:45:53 -0800 From: Landen Schooler <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Humor-not fsj related (mime) Gee, change the name to Iowa and it would fit also. And deer around here are called rats with antlers. Landen Schooler The farmer with corn fattened rats, I mean deer. Joe Sego wrote: > > Since Michigan is our neighbor, I thought this > was funny enough to distribute. Enjoy or delete. > > The Yooper Diary > > * Aug.12 Moved to our new home in Michigans Upper Peninsula. > It is so beautiful here. The rolling hills and forests are > so majestic. Can hardly wait to see them with snow covering > them. I love it here. > > * Oct.9 The UP. is the most beautiful place on earth. The > leaves are turning colors and shades of red and orange. Went > for a ride through the beautiful hills and saw some deer. > They are so graceful, certainly they are the most wonderful > animals on Earth. This must be paradise. I love it here. > > * Oct.19 Saw a herd of deer in the yard yesterday - > beautiful. I hope it will snow soon. I love it here. > > * Oct.28 It snowed last night. Woke up to find everything > blanketed in white. It looks like a postcard. We went > outside and cleaned the snow off the steps and shoveled the > driveway. We had a snowball fight (I won), and when the plow > came by, we had to shovel the driveway again. What a > beautiful place. I love the U.P.... > > * Nov.11 Deer season will start soon. I can't imagine anyone > wanting to kill such a gorgeous creature. Everything covered > in snow, it's magical. I love it here. > > * Nov.15 More snow last night. I love it. The snow plow did > his trick to the driveway again, I love it here. > > * Nov.25 More snow last night, plus some sleet and ice. > Couldn't get out of the driveway to get to work. I am > exhausted from shoveling. Darn snow plow! > > * Dec.10 More of that white stuff fell last night. I've got > blisters on my hands from shoveling. I think the snow plow > hides around the corner and waits until I'm done shoveling. > Jerk! > > * Dec.14 More snow and ice. If I ever get my hands on that > jerk who drives the snow plow, I swear I'll kick him. Don't > know why they don't use more salt on the streets to melt all > this ice. > > * Dec.15 More white crap fell last night. Been inside for 3 > days except for shoveling after the snow plows goes through > every time. Can't go anywhere, cars stuck in a mountain of > white crud. The weatherman says to expect another 4-6" of > that stuff again tonight. Do you know how many shovels full > of snow 6" is? > > * Dec.16 The weatherman was wrong. We got 16" of snow this > time.At this rate it won't melt before summer. The snow plow > got stuck up the road and the guy came to my door and asked > to borrow my shovel. After I told him I had broken six > shovels already shoveling all the snow he pushed into the > driveway, I broke the last one over his head. > > * Jan.12 Finally got out of the house today. Went to the > store to get food and on the way back a deer ran in front of > the car and I hit it. Did about $3000.00 damage to the car. > That beast should be killed. Wish the hunters has killed > them all last November! > > * May 3 Took the car to the garage in town. The thing is > rusting from all that salt they put on the roads up here. > > * May 10: Moved to Georgia > I can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would ever > live in this God-forsaken area of Michigan's Upper > Peninsula.......... > > Author Unknown > > --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe > send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message.[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 22:39:35 -0800 From: Landen Schooler <skoullar-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: [Fwd: [JEEP-L:31025] American Land Sovereignty Protection Act] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6589151815B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit News flash gang, pass the word and get a hold of congress and last your reps know how you feel. Landen --------------6589151815B Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <jeep-l-at-knuth.mtsu.edu> Received: from knuth.mtsu.edu (knuth.mtsu.edu [161.45.1.1]) by ixmail6.ix.netcom.com (8.7.5/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id NAA14452; Sat, 7 Dec 1996 13:30:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from knuth by knuth.mtsu.edu with smtp (Smail3.1.29.1 #15) id m0vWUKz-000DBya; Sat, 7 Dec 96 15:31 CST Date: Sat, 7 Dec 96 15:31 CST Message-Id: <19961207205348.AAA10-at-LOCALNAME> Errors-To: ggjns-at-knuth.mtsu.edu Reply-To: jeep-l-at-knuth.mtsu.edu Originator: jeep-l-at-knuth.mtsu.edu Sender: jeep-l-at-knuth.mtsu.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Jennings <BKWUDZ-at-worldnet.att.net> To: Multiple recipients of list <jeep-l-at-knuth.mtsu.edu> Subject: [JEEP-L:31025] American Land Sovereignty Protection Act X-Listprocessor-Version: 6.0c -- ListProcessor by Anastasios Kotsikonas X-Comment: Discussion Anything that is Jeep or Jeep Related I just received an information packet from Congressman Don Young's office concening HR3752, the "American Land Sovereignty Protection Act". The purpose of HR3752 is to RESTORE Congress's Constitutional role in the making of rules & regulations governing lands belonging to the United States, as GUARANTEED in the Constitution, Article IV, section 3. * Currently United Nations land designations,( UNESCO Biosphere Reserves & World Heritage Sites) take place WITHOUT the approval of Congress. * Over 68% of OUR National Parks, Preserves, & Monuments are designated as a United Nations World Heritage Site , Biosphere Reserve or both. * The U.S. has 20 World Heritage Sites, 18 of which are National Parks, including the STATUE OF LIBERTY and INDEPENDENCE HALL. * The U.S. has 2 sites on the list of World Heritage in Danger, Yellowstone National Park & the Everglades National Park. * The U.S. now has 47 "Biosphere Reserves" which contain a total area larger than the size of the State of Colorado, our 8th largest state. What this means is 67 International Designations already exist in the United States, all designated without the consent of Congress or the American people. Nina Sibal, the director of UNESCO has stated: " The way in which the United States choses to relate to our Man & Biosphere program or to the subject of the World Heritage is a sovereign decision of the AMERICAN PEOPLE & the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT". Well, it would appear the executive branch of our government,(the white house) has been doing all the thinking for us. Thank you Mr.Clinton. When HR3572 came up for a vote this past summer, The Clinton Administration threatened to VETO & issued a letter stating so. The results of the vote: In favor of HR3572, there were 33 Democrats, 213 Republicans = 246 Against HR3572, there were 162 Democrats, 15 Republicans= 178 Hmmm, kinda funny how the majority of the DEMOCRATS in the House voted against the bill. This is why we ALL need to be involved, if we don't tell these assholes what we expect from them, than they are not the voice of the people. Remember, it was the people that put them here in the first place, to work for us, not them. If you'd like to know how your "elected" congressmen voted, e mail me & I'll shoot you the results. Better yet , write your Congressman & ask him or her how they voted & why!!! JUST DO IT! Bob Jennings Granite State 4 Wheelers --------------6589151815B--[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:38:33, -0500 From: KYFD25A-at-prodigy.com (MR GERARD J CUDMORE) Subject: Re: FSJs in commercials. I never said I agreed with the commercial in question just that I happened to see it... My GW's gotten me in and out of a lot of scrapes without a problem.[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:32:40 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Steering box breakage... At 03:40 PM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote: > >yeah, Jeep did beef the steering box mount when they re-did the frame in >74...but that does not make it indestructable...My friend Jason (73, 77 >J-10s) has busted the 77 J-10's steering box off twice. Of course Jason >is the guy who can break the crowbar in the sandbox. > > Hey Mark, What exactly breaks the steering box off? Is it while doing some serious wheeling? Or is it a defect? Snowing here....the Cheif is at the machine shop having the plow hung on it as I type, nothing like planning ahead huh? C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:45:03, -0500 From: KYFD25A-at-prodigy.com (MR GERARD J CUDMORE) Subject: Doc's truck I'm wondering if Doc happened to notice the '69 Kaiser M-175 in the Jan issue of Four Wheeler. Is that what his truck is going to look like...?[Back to Top]
Date: 08 Dec 96 03:09:33 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Power window problems > This was my first FSJ. a pink (yeah, I know Ken, Salmon, no wait, rose, no, > no, no, > it's Indian Cermak, or pottery... or was it red pink clay...) Wagoneer that > I was > able to get by giving the guy a then functioning Ford Pinto wagon that I had > traded > three cords of wood for... the Pinto was inoperative within about two > weeks... the > guy was a carpenter, not a mechanic... A pinto for a FSJ??? Not bad!!! Even if the Pinto ran forever and the Jeep wasn't running. Karl Streich 79 Chief :)[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:49:47 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: spent day with the Chief Hidy-Ho Good Neighbors, Today we began the extra wiring on the Chief. After a quick trip to NAPA (where else?) I found some very hefty toggle switches and some 30 amp relays. First we ran the new wiring harness for the plow, had to cut a 5/8" dia hole in firewall for the cable and grommet. Geeez, not much room under there? Kinda hard to find a spot to drill, and I don't have AC.! We then ran a #10 wire to a 30 amp fuse and then inside the cab. Inside it hooks to a small distribution box where I can tap off it for a couple lighting circuits. Again, not a lot of room to go through the firewall, had to go next to heater box on pass side. This line is direct from battery. Tomorrow we'll run a second #10 for future use. Still need to wire up the rotating becon for the top. Everything we did is wire-tied very well and often. But.... While my head was under the dash I noticed the wiring is a nighmare! Did the factory do it this way or was it the yo-yo I bought it from? No rhyme or reason to any of it. I fail to see a easy way to correct it. Big wads of wire below glove compartment another near the steering column. I hope tomorrow we find one of the "wads" from the stereo, that would be easy to correct. If Mr. Murphy stays away, we'll be ready for tons-o-snow after tomorrow. Yea right, probably not snow now till 1998. C'ya Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 12:21:39 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: tailgates and BARN DOORS... At 07:05 PM 12/6/96 -0800, you wrote: >works for me... that's what I used on 4x4 Runs... of >course I had a Diesel under me most of those times... :) > >I'll adjust my sig file accordingly, especially since >I'm the john that invited the other johns on the list... :) > >diesel john >john-at- > >At 04:52 PM 12/5/96 -0800, Kenneth E. Wetherall wrote: >>diesel John..i like it :) >>-- >> Sincerely >> >> Kenneth Wetherall >> kenns-at-concentric.net Well I could always use my nickname to make things easier, the people at work call me "Doogie" as in Doogie Houser MD...Well it's alot better than what I call most of them ;0 Doogie (SJ builder)[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996 19:57:12 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Money, Book, Ouray Par Usual Mark has some opinions about everything... and he's gonna share a few. As for Clubs...such as an off line Big Jeep Club... United Four Wheel Drive has a book about starting clubs...that would probably be the best guideline to go by. Club Dues are only there to offset the cost of newsletters, Stickers, trail permits, etc. One doesn't start a 4x4 club to make a buck. Sometimes a club trail run will cost extra money, but that should only be for camping permits (or hotel if you are that sort) and sometimes a few meals (Big barbecue makes any 4x4 trip complete). As for the book I'm thinking more along the lines of a neatly printed glossy paperback similar to a NASCAR or concert program. Possibly this could be the program for the 40th at Ouray. Or it could be printed shortly thereafter...and I imagine that additional copies can be sent via regular mail to those who cannot attend. That would probably be substantially cheaper than doing stuff through a publisher. There are enough folks on the list with enough knowledge to fill a book such as this with all sorts of cool stuff. A big pictoral of a frame up, some extreme wheeling, some sightseeing wheeling, some history, etc. Last thing I was thinking was money...Something that I never seem to have enough of. Money buys parts including used parts. I prefer to trade parts...I given away some big parts (including my ill fated 304) and I've gotten some big parts... a grille, a bumper, most of an interior...all stuff that costs a lot at the yard...had money changed hands probably everybody would be poorer. Anyway I sorta fogot where I was going with this, but it's time to go home from work....Eastwood and the Duke call from my TV. Later Mark[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:53:42 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: heat/defrost problem? I noticed today that pushing the heater control buttons didn't seem to divert the warm air as it did. It seems to be stuck at sending the air about 50/50 to windshield and floor. What should I look for to correct or trouble-shoot this problem? I know its vacuum, how does it remove, or do you have to be a contortionist and lay upside down with head in floor? Thanks, Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:34:01 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: SV: Q-Trac steering knuckle At 10:43 AM 12/4/96 -0800, you wrote: >> >> I find the double-cardan joint a lot easier to lube if you unbolt the >> driveshaft at the front axle >> Frank >> Norway > >undoing it from the front axle is much easier than doing the xfr case side... > >I also crawl up into the cab and slip the xfr case into neutral, makes it easier >to spin it around... make sure your wheels are blocked... we don't need any >FSJ fatalities or injuries... watch yourself when you release the front >driveshaft, the jeep might roll or move a little... make sure you don't >have yourself directly in line with the wheels... > Doesn't sound like advice for us flat-landers does it? :-) C'ya Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 20:53:08 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: [Fwd: 84 Jeep Grand Wagoneer] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------553F53DA4D63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net --------------553F53DA4D63 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Path: news!news-master!newsfeed.concentric.net!news.texas.net!news.kei.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.slic.com!usenet From: rob-at-slic.com (Upstate) Newsgroups: rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys Subject: 84 Jeep Grand Wagoneer Date: 7 Dec 1996 22:36:55 GMT Organization: St. Lawrence Internet Connection Lines: 8 Message-ID: <58cri7$77p-at-winthrop.slic.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: peru10.slic.com X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (beta 2) I really could use some help with my truck, I live in upstate NY and can't find anyone to help me restore such a classic truck. If anyone can help me with any information please E-Mail me. rob-at-slic.com Thanks Rob --------------553F53DA4D63--[Back to Top]
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996 23:32:23 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: SV: musings of a Wednesday evening... Doc rambled...er ah...said; > We drive uncommon vehicles, we are uncommon people, we should remain >an uncommon list. > > I would kinda like to see it grow big enough to where we could have >regional events and the like, perhaps occasional national and maybe >world-wide ones, but I would also like to see us remain exclusive. > > Just MY two cents... <grin> > >-Doc Nicely put Doc. My sentiments exactly. C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 17:58:31 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: the great toledo plant heist...
Hey, now we're talkin'...
this makes more sense than my plan... :)
we'll beat the statue of limitations even...
john
At 03:09 AM 12/8/96 EST, DOROTHY I. STREICH wrote:
>You guys are way off...We need a time machine. Remember BACK TO THE FUTURE???
>Well how bout we rig up a train of half a dozen box cars like the Delorian, and
>a couple of engines too, then we can go back in time and get brand new FSJs
from
>10, 20, even 30 years ago, and by the time they realize they been robbed we
will
>be 25 years off. OK, who's in with me???
>
>Karl Streich
>FSJ type= time-traveler1
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:13:59 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: 40th J-Series Anniversary - Ouray, CO 8/14/2002?
doc,
could ya put a sample of what it would look like on the web?
have you seen the Jeep-L one? They're selling theirs for $6 for a pair...
john
>> <grin>. Hey, what do y'all think of window stickers of the IFSJA logo?
>> Complete with the www address?
>> -Doc
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:16:48 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: re: the great jeep heist...
hey, anybody know the name of the song that goes:
"send lawyers, guns and money..."
:)
perhaps we should schedule this heist for the 40th anniversary run?
hey, John also mentioned that there were some FSJ's in tunnels... how
many? enough for all of us?????
john
At 11:32 PM 12/7/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote:
>>-Doc hey, we've got all kinds on this list, pilots, Jeep builders, etc...
>>any lawyers on the list? We may need y'all...
>>About all I can contribute is - I can build a nice garage to
>hide em in!!
>>Guess I'd have to call it a "Fair Sized Joint"
>C'ya Joe-
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 8 Dec 1996 21:15:08 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: Old Blue's shakes... Hey, everyone. I had to sign off of the list from work due to a new Internet usage policy that frowns on many messages per day because it "affects the Firm's business use of the Internet". Oh well, it was likely to happen eventually. Anyway, let me know when the list is back up so I can subscribe from home. No new news on the front axle/disc brake project. As you may know, Mark and I tore the front D27, springs, master cylinder, and some of the brake lines out of Ole Bessy on Thanksgiving day. It all went really easy. The front D44 is almost complete; in the meantime I need to get to work sandblasting and painting the springs, bending new brake tubing, and fitting up the front-disc-compatible master cylinder and proportioning valve. I'm still hoping to have everything put back together around Christmas. Hey, John: I think those axle shims are supposed to serve some purpose! :=) On a related note, how do I get replacement spring pads for the worn out ones in my spring packs? Are they all pretty similar? Would any ole spring shop carry them? Also, did you say that you lubed your springs w/ synthetic grease? Lastly: I got new OEM spring bushings from Smiths. Should I lube them prior to installation? Ken: You said that you shortened the rod that sticks out from the OEM brake booster when you did your front disc conversion. How much did you shorten it and how did you do the shortening? Mark: The sandblaster works excelente. I tried it out BRIEFLY, then shook the sand out of my hair and ordered the hood from Eastwood. It should arrive nxt couple of days. I'll give you all another update soon. Later! ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:34:30 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Old Blue's shakes...
At 09:15 PM 12/8/96 -0500, Jen Hen wrote:
>Hey, everyone. I had to sign off of the list from work due to a new
>Internet usage policy that frowns on many messages per day because it
>"affects the Firm's business use of the Internet". Oh well, it was likely
>to happen eventually. Anyway, let me know when the list is back up so I can
>subscribe from home.
it's up now, I've received a couple messages from it in the last hour...
>>
>Hey, John: I think those axle shims are supposed to serve some purpose! :=)
but they looked really bad, all rusty and cruddy lookin'... :)
>On a related note, how do I get replacement spring pads for the worn out
>ones in my spring packs? Are they all pretty similar? Would any ole spring
>shop carry them? Also, did you say that you lubed your springs w/ synthetic
>grease? Lastly: I got new OEM spring bushings from Smiths. Should I lube
>them prior to installation?
I got them from a Spring shop, any 4x4 or RV place should have 'em. Like
..16 cents a piece... nylon. Yep, I greased all contact points with
AMSOIL Synthetic grease... the first time I did everything, bathed them
suckers in it... then when I had to redo them I found I had a terrible
mess... so the second time I only did contact points, much easier to
deal with... :)
just found out the ECM for the Buick won't be in until Tuesday... arghhh...
john
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Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:33:38 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: What happen Is this list temperamental or what? The last thing I remember was asking about providing information to a guy who's has an 87 that had a question concerning tire size options, and the next thing ya know I'm like kicked off the list or something, either that or it was the CIA intercepting my mail for fear of the big heist, Jeep is considered a federal trade zone ya know! Anyone care to share anything pertinent I might have missed? Doogie[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:41:24 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: (No subject)
At 12:38 PM 12/7/96 -0500, John Mettler wrote:
>To whom it may concern:
> I received email the other day from a guy (Larry) and he had a question
>about tire sizes for his 87, and I was wondering if it would be alright to
>pass along info to have him join us here?
>Doogie
Doogie?
guess this solves the problem of having too many john's on the list... :)
does "larry" sound normal? :) does he refer to any friends with the names
Moe or Curly?
I don't have any problems... just let 'em know this ain't a normal place...
no flames, no discouraging words, family oriented... mostly Full-Size Jeep
stuff. Diesels are ok, CJ's not... :)
btw, where are the maps? How many SJ's are in the tunnels?
What color are they? Any have sunroofs.... :)
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 18:49:18 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: New Subscriber
welcome aboard ron...
as far as pictures, feel free to send them to me and doc
for our web pages... and let everyone else know you have them
and they can email you off the list for 'em... the listmom
highly recommended that we don't "hurt" the listserver with
large attachments...
flatfenders? yeah, Old Blue has flat fenders, no dents or
anything... ;)
We'd all love to hear about your 77 and the washed out trails...
are you near the Shennado?(SP) National Geographic just did a piece
on it... pretty country, not very hilly though... seriously,
how high are the hills out there?
later,
john
(looks like the other john calls hisself doogie... so I'm back to just
john...)
At 04:47 PM 12/7/96 -0500, Ron wrote:
>'diesel' john wrote:
>
>> About the list. It's a nice friendly, family type list.
>> There shall be NO flames, foul language or other unfriendly behavior.
>> Please try to trim replies to quote only pertinent parts.
>> Try to stay close to the topic of Full-Size Jeeps.
>
>Sounds good to me.
>
>> We're an unusual bunch who are concerned about list growth and the
>> degregation of our list...
>
>Although I will be adding to the growth of your list, I will try not to
>be a source of degredation, (unless my flatfender fever seeps out
>unexpectedly):-)
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 20:38:22 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: Q-Trac steering knuckle At 03:09 AM 12/8/96 EST, you wrote: > >> I think this question was aimed at me... >> I'm just outside Houston, Texas. From what I understand, there is a >> shift lever of some type which needs to be mounted in the cab for the >> low range unit. Do you have that also? I'm not sure if low range is >> something I really need since I don't intend to do much off-roading, but >> from what I've read, I may be drawn into it just because I own a Jeep >> and I can go offroad. > >All I have is the reduction unit, but someone should be able to find a shift >lever in a junkyard. If you dont get far off the road you may not need the >reduction unit. > >Karl Streich >79 Chief > I bought a 79 with a qtrac unit in it about a year ago. I am in the process of putting the 79 body on the 83 frame. The 83 has a 360, 727 at, 208, dana 44 front (which I want to convert to 8 lug..anyone know what I need to do?), and AMC 20 rear. I can take the lever and whatever parts I have and send them to you. I might ever still have the Qtrac unit. I'll have to check. I sold the front and rear axles to a CJ owner. Just let me know... jim sterling 79/83 Cherokee (real jeep) 91 cherokee limited (wife's car) 84 CJ-7 (wife's toy) 92 GMC Sub 4x4.. my "work truck".. all computer techs need a work truck don't they??? jsterling-at-businessbasic.com[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:15:20 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: I wont advertise true Joe Sego wrote: > > Ken, > I would like to point out that I found the list back in > Dec/Jan through you. I had put out a question about QT > and you directed me here. So I would say your efforts in the > alt ?? 4x4, is a good measure of new guys. I am sure you have > brought others to the list the same way. Everybody on the Net > checks out the newsgroups. > > I just am afraid if it goes full blown public, every 4x4 owner > of *any* type will show up. Oh, and we can and should grow as time > goes on, and we have in just about a year. Dunno the exact numbers > but it was originally 12? Now 75? > > C'ya > Joe- > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:26:56 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: John Mettler 87 what?? -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
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