Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:35:57 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: the great toledo plant heist... DO U THINK I HAVE NOT THOT OF THIS B4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 All i need is 10k of period cash and can get me a Perrrrrrrrrrfect 1968, buick 350 Super Wagoneer <bg> -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 19:37:13 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: the great jeep heist... he didnt say FSJ's, he said jeeps. john wrote: > > hey, anybody know the name of the song that goes: > "send lawyers, guns and money..." > > :) > > perhaps we should schedule this heist for the 40th anniversary run? > > hey, John also mentioned that there were some FSJ's in tunnels... how > many? enough for all of us????? > > john > > At 11:32 PM 12/7/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote: > >>-Doc hey, we've got all kinds on this list, pilots, Jeep builders, etc... > >>any lawyers on the list? We may need y'all... > >>About all I can contribute is - I can build a nice garage to > >hide em in!! > >>Guess I'd have to call it a "Fair Sized Joint" > >C'ya Joe- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun > Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial > They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide > And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing." > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > john-at- http://www./~john > 81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited > Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:02:08 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Web pages Doc and 'Diesel' John, I found this list by going to the 4wheeler address and looking at a few questions posted on the bulletin board. I am very glad to join this list, it seems that everyone (including my wife) have a CJ, but nobody really talks about FSJs. I think that having bumper stickers is a good idea, but do you really want the web address on there? Maybe without it, people that are really interested would ask, and those that aren't would just go on by. Just a thought from a new guy on the list. jim sterling 79/83 FSJ Cherokee 91 Cherokee Limited (wife's) 84 CJ-7 (wifes toy) 92 GMC Sub 4x4 (my work truck) P.S. what are your web addresses with the pictures?[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 23:35:13 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: river city troubles... >Well, gonna go get some parts to fix the Buick so I can wait > on doing Old Blue's brakes until I can scare up all the parts. > He's gonna need new front hoses, brake lines and calipers rebuilt... >Hey, ANYBODY KNOW OF GOOD BRAKE linings/pads? The crap I got from > Schucks doesn't do much to slow him down... > John, You should go to NAPA, they sold me loaded calipers for $23 each!! Thats with my discount. All shiney and newly rebuilt. An easy swap. btw that price was exchange, plus the pads are lifetime guaranteed! It seems I never have any trouble with NAPA parts, no so with the huge stores like Auto-Zone etc., imho they sell crap/garbage. Pay a little more and be worry-free. just my $.02 worth C'ya joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 23:41:55 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: brake fluid In last post I forgot to answer John's question about brake fluid. I'd go with DOT 3, but, I would also completely drain the system and refill. This is an area where *most* people fail their maintenance chores. Brake fluid is not permanent, it should be and requires a complete change! Brake fluid absorbs moisture....moisture corrodes and rusts brake lines from inside out (right Mark, Ed?) For a measly $6-10 each, I change the brake fluid in all my vehicles every couple years. I use the gravity system and it's a snap. Learned that from years of maintenance on my Vette. C'ya Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 23:44:26 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: the great toledo plant heist... >You guys are way off...We need a time machine. Remember BACK TO THE FUTURE??? >Well how bout we rig up a train of half a dozen box cars like the Delorian, and >a couple of engines too, then we can go back in time and get brand new FSJs from >10, 20, even 30 years ago, and by the time they realize they been robbed we will >be 25 years off. OK, who's in with me??? > >Karl Streich >FSJ type= time-traveler1 > Ok McFly.......<G> C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:45:39 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Pinto for an FSJ sir?
At 03:09 AM 12/8/96 EST, DOROTHY I. STREICH wrote:
>> This was my first FSJ. a pink (yeah, I know Ken, Salmon, no wait, rose, no,
>> no, no, it's Indian Cermak,
>A pinto for a FSJ??? Not bad!!! Even if the Pinto ran forever and the Jeep
>wasn't running. Karl Streich 79 Chief :)
I got the Pinto because the previous owner had completely run the engine
out of OIL AND WATER... it stopped, he pushed it into a Park and Ride and
figured it was done for... I was trying to sell 3 cords of wood because
I'd sold my log house, this guy comes up and offers me a car in exchange for
it... I liked Pinto's so I figured, what the heck... We got there, I had
a tow dolly hooked up and ready to go. Meanwhile, this guy goes over and
tries to start the thing... and it did... we drove it onto the tow dolly... I
got it home fed it oil and water and drove it for a few months... (I ran
into this guy again a few years later, he was a concrete contractor, he did
some work for me...)
THEN I decided to "clean" the engine, so I used CD2, and promptly busted the
Camshaft... morale of the story... DON'T USE ADDITIVES... luckily, one
of my engineer friends just happened to have a Pinto cam laying around...
seriously... I think Jim charged me about $100 to put it in...
Anyways, the Pinto was a nice little car, but an "extra". The guy down at
Tom Thumb (a little grocery store) that took care of cleanup and maintenance
noticed the Buick V-6 in the back of my Pinto Wagon one morning... and we
got to talking. He mentioned that he could really use something with decent
fuel mileage and so on. One thing lead to another and somehow the V-6 that
had been in the back of the pinto had been stuffed into my Chevy Luv, the
Pinto found it's way to his house and I got the 67 Wagoneer... that same
V-6 later
ended up in the Wagoneer and in Four Wheeler...
the guy that got the pinto died of a heartattack a couple years ago... the
67 Wagoneer is still running around with the guy that bought it from me...
I've crossed path with the concrete guy again, and probably will again when
I get my carport poured...
that's my story, and I'm sticking to it... and I didn't provide all the
details, so I can tell this story a few more times... and I've got
witnesses who will corroborate it... :)
a Pinto for a Wagoneer, you betcha... Anybody got a spare Pinto? I
could use another project...
Wait, cash works too... let's see, I bought the 65 J200 for $250, the
69 for $100, and the 77 for $200. Oh yeah, and Old Blue for $1,000...
I did drive the 65 home... the 69 could have been fixed for about $12,
the 77 had a hole where the motor was... Old Blue drove home but sat
stalled in the drive for three months... oh yeah, and I found all of these
rigs in the Little Nickel or the Buy and Sell... This is FSJ heaven...
Oh yeah, 2 out of 5 did NOT have floorboards... or should I say 3 out of
5 came with floorboards... brakes optional... but that's another story...
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:49:17 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: welcome to FSJ wiring...
At 11:49 PM 12/7/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote:
>
>Hidy-Ho Good Neighbors,
>
>While my head was under the dash I noticed the wiring is a
>nighmare! Did the factory do it this way or was it the yo-yo
>I bought it from? No rhyme or reason to any of it. I fail to see
>a easy way to correct it. Big wads of wire below glove compartment
>another near the steering column.
welcome to the world of FSJ wiring...
My solution in the past is a three step process:
1) find switch
2) find item to be switched
3) remove all stock wire inbetween and replace with ONE solid piece.
I probably saved 50 lbs on the first Wag this way... :)
Did they use friction tape on yours too? Anybody remember friction tape?
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:50:18 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: doogie the SJ doc it is...
At 12:21 PM 12/7/96 -0500, John Mettler wrote:
>
> Well I could always use my nickname to make things easier, the people at
>work call me "Doogie" as in Doogie Houser MD...Well it's alot better than
>what I call most of them ;0
>
>Doogie (SJ builder)
thanx,
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:53:47 -0800 From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: what's flat??? At 11:34 PM 12/7/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote: >At 10:43 AM 12/4/96 -0800, you wrote: >> make sure your wheels are blocked... watch yourself when you release the front driveshaft, the jeep might roll or move a little... >Doesn't sound like advice for us flat-landers does it? :-) what's flat-land???? john[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 21:56:30 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: What happen
At 09:33 PM 12/8/96 -0500, John Mettler wrote:
>>Is this list temperamental or what?
>> The last thing I remember was asking about providing information to a guy
>who's has an 87 that had a question concerning tire size options, and the
>next thing ya know I'm like kicked off the list or something, either that
>or it was the CIA intercepting my mail for fear of the big heist, Jeep is
>considered a federal trade zone ya know!
>
>Anyone care to share anything pertinent I might have missed?
>>Doogie
>
Naw, it's like a plugged up toilet... it just broke loose... hang
on.... :)
We just gotta watch out so the UN doesn't get involved... They'll
bring in the peace-keeping forces and we'll really be in trouble...
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:07:19 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Web pages
My jeep page points to doc's home page that has the pointers to the
jeep page that nobody can find because they pointed to the address that
doc told them to but then he changed it to something else in a flash of
creativity... :)
anyway:
http://www./~john/JEEP.html
(you'll find the link to doc's page advertised as the IFSJA link
but it doesn't go there, but to doc's page, you'll find what you seek there...)
At 09:02 PM 12/8/96 -0800, Jim Sterling wrote:
>Doc and 'Diesel' John,
>
>I found this list by going to the 4wheeler address ...Maybe without it,
people that are really interested would ask, and those that aren't would
just go on by. Just a thought from a new guy on the list.
>jim sterling 79/83 FSJ Cherokee....
>P.S. what are your web addresses with the pictures?
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:09:36 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re:NAPA calipers...
At 11:35 PM 12/8/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote:
>
>>Well, gonna go get some parts to fix the Buick so I can wait
>> on doing Old Blue's brakes until I can scare up all the parts.
>> He's gonna need new front hoses, brake lines and calipers rebuilt...
>>Hey, ANYBODY KNOW OF GOOD BRAKE linings/pads? The crap I got from
>> Schucks doesn't do much to slow him down...
>>
>John,
>You should go to NAPA, they sold me loaded calipers for $23 each!!
>Thats with my discount. All shiney and newly rebuilt. An easy swap.
>btw that price was exchange, plus the pads are lifetime guaranteed!
>It seems I never have any trouble with NAPA parts, no so with the
>huge stores like Auto-Zone etc., imho they sell crap/garbage. Pay a
>little more and be worry-free.
in 81 they changed the design of the caliber... I wonder if the
cost is the same for mine... I'll have to check...
thanx for the info. btw, how to the brakes feel? these pads I
got from schucks don't do much to "grab" you... :)
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Back to Top]Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 22:22:56 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: good ideas, good advice...
once again you guys came through with some good stuff...
Don't know if my earlier msg got through about Old Blue's
rear axle... It sure looks like the angle is too severe...
thinking about it, I remember chucking the wedge... sheesh...
talk about shooting my self in the foot.... (hey does this qualify
for a purple heart??? :)
So, I'm going to chase down the brake lines and hoses and see about
getting replacement front calipers, getting those shims and squaring
up the rear end... And completely flushing the brake fluid like the
bozo mechanic should have this summer...
Gravity method? Why did I just think of that silly joke the doctor
told my wife and I when we first got married: "What do you call people
that use the withdrawal method?" parents chuckle, chuckle, snort...
I think I'll borrow that pressurizing unit from Tom or Jim, or just use
my old reliable checkvalve adapter in a jar of brake fluid... :)
Then I'll need to give Old Blue a wedgie... sure wish I had saved those
rusty chunks of metal... ROFL... they really looked like part of some
shipping material or something and not like they were supposed to be there...
I hadn't noticed anything like that before... Guess the wedges either weren't
used on other rigs or stuck to something and I hadn't seen 'em... The angle
was noticeable this time though... The tank is at about 1/4 so the back end
is sitting up higher than usual too... and it's parked downhill, nose first...
I wish I knew what level was, and if I had any... It does make it nice for
moving rigs around though... stopping them is another story though...
Let's hope that this fixes Old Blue, cause I'm gonna have to start tearing
axles apart on the little wagoneer... the limited slip has passed into that
great pumpkin in the sky... and the rear axle seals have spilled over onto
my brakes... makes for a very sticky situation... and interesting exits
off the freeway when the rear wheel decides he wants to slow down faster than
the rest of us and we get sideways... yeahaaaaaa I LOVE oversteer...
I guess I better fix it before it hurts somebody... :)
later,
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Back to Top]Date: 09 Dec 96 01:23:49 EST From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Voltage Regulator Ol' White's voltage regulator is & has been TU for some time. The voltage regulator is built-in to the temp gauge, incorporated as part of the board. Rather than buying a new gauge and fighting to install it, would it be feasible to just buy a new alternator with a built in regulator in it, therefore bypass the defunct unit in the temp gauge? Insert answers here ................... Ed Pedersen Vancouver B.C. Canada '79 Cherokee Wide Track QT AT I6 Dana 44's 3.54 gears[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 01:23:58 EST
From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Moisture in Brake Fluid & Other Repairs
Joe Sego mentioned moisture problems.
My Answer; I Dunno !! Ize jest steps on da brakes
and Ol' White kinda slows down :)))
But seriously folks;
That is a very good point,especially here in Rainy BC and the PNW
area. Even more so if the truck is driven only occasionally,
as the more it sits, the more moisture is allowed to be drawn into
the master cyclinder.
With any luck, I will have a nice, warm, dry garage to park Ol' White
in for the winter. This would be a heckuva a lot easier on the Jeep,
if it was warm and toasty, out of the snow, blizzards, rain, & mold !
Plus, I would finally be able to do some basic maintenance on it at
my leisure, _in a warm garage_, rather then wait for a good day and run
around getting bits and pieces, shuffling cars in the driveway, then
find out the battery is deader than a door nail, and I can't move it anyways !
:(
Winter things to do;
-change brake fluid
-change QT juice
-change both diff's juice
-change brake pads all four corners
-install rear brake pistons
-change antifreeze and install thermostat ( Oh yeah, now I remember
why I couldn't get very much heat out of the heater! I took out the
'stat because it was heating up too much in the summer. Since
figured out it was because of rear brake drag.) Another one of
those Dohs!
-repair battery area. (it is all rusted away. I can see daylight beneath
the truck.
-install carb kit
-replace seized manual choke cable
-lube tailgate window tracks
That's the _basic_ stuff that needs to be down <g>
Good golly, this list sounds just like Timex !!!!!!!!!!!
Ed Pedersen Vancouver B.C. Canada
'79 Cherokee Wide Track QT AT I6
Dana 44's 3.54 gears
[Back to Top]Date: 09 Dec 96 01:40:23 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: HEAVY DUTY ..... > Rich, > Yea it is more fun than a human should be allowed to have :-) > I especially like the young yo-yo's with the lowered Honda's > with the big old boom...boom boom stereo.....when they came back > to their parked car they better have a snow shovel....hehehehehehe > Its fun to put all the snow in a parking lot around one car :-) What about us young yo-yo's with a 79 Chief and a big old boom...boom boom stereo??? I guess I should keep it down (like off) arround you...UH-OH!! I let my secret out!! Guess I'm in trouble now...:( Please dont be mad...<sniffle> Karl Streich 79 Chief... PS: The "old boom...boom boom stereo" is to show thoese honda guys that you can have a real RIDE with, well, a "old boom...boom boom stereo", But I don't listen to the boom...boom boom music...>RAP< Later Y'all[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 02:31:53 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: gov't surplus... > Rich > > ps Anybody need any extra rack-mounted paperweights?? What else do you have? Govt surpluses lots of good stuf (like dana 60 axels) or was it just "paperweights"...Hey, a 60 could hold down one HECK of a piece of paper... :) Karl Streich 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 02:49:20 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: spent day with the Chief At 11:49 PM 12/7/96 -0500, you wrote: > >Hidy-Ho Good Neighbors, >SNIP< >While my head was under the dash I noticed the wiring is a >nighmare! Did the factory do it this way or was it the yo-yo >I bought it from? The factory! nah, Had to be the YO-YO :) Doogie >C'ya >Joe- > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 02:58:57 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: re: the great jeep heist... At 06:16 PM 12/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >hey, anybody know the name of the song that goes: >"send lawyers, guns and money..." > >:) > >perhaps we should schedule this heist for the 40th anniversary run? > >hey, John also mentioned that there were some FSJ's in tunnels... how >many? enough for all of us????? Actually I asked a friend about the rumors, and he said he was an eye witness when during some construction they opened a previously sealed off tunnel and found Jeepster body's in there, they then (sit down please) rammed fork lifts through the doors drug'em out and scraped them! There are other tunnels who knows what's in'em... Doogie >john > >At 11:32 PM 12/7/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote: >>>-Doc hey, we've got all kinds on this list, pilots, Jeep builders, etc... >>>any lawyers on the list? We may need y'all... >>>About all I can contribute is - I can build a nice garage to >>hide em in!! >>>Guess I'd have to call it a "Fair Sized Joint" >>C'ya Joe- > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun > Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial > They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide > And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing." >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >john-at- http://www./~john > 81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited > Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free... >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 03:03:32 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: John Mettler At 07:26 PM 12/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >87 what?? Grand Wagoneer Doogie > Sincerely > > Kenneth Wetherall > kenns-at-concentric.net > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 03:07:22 -0500 From: John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Web pages At 10:07 PM 12/8/96 -0800, you wrote: >My jeep page points to doc's home page that has the pointers to the >jeep page that nobody can find because they pointed to the address that >doc told them to but then he changed it to something else in a flash of >creativity... :) > >anyway: ROFL... man... John that struck my funny bone :) :) Doogie > > http://www./~john/JEEP.html > >(you'll find the link to doc's page advertised as the IFSJA link >but it doesn't go there, but to doc's page, you'll find what you seek there...) >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 11:46:29 +0200 (WET) From: <ik3274-at-bessel.tutech.fi> Subject: It runs again =09Hi there folks =09Finally I got it fixed. I found the lost spark. There were couple of wires that had been connected wrong and the ignition module was broken. I don=B4t know how it did run before because of those wrongly connected wires. I also replaced one of those famous vacuum lines that was leaking, and now it runs great. I adjusted the ignition timing, but I think I=B4ll have to set it a bit later because I have special plugs that give better spark (in fact three sparks) so they burn the gases more rapidly. It seems to be a little too much advance, since it gives a little kinda pinging sound when accelerated in low rpm=B4s. =09Hey Frank, you have nice rig. You have its exhaustpipes coming out from same point as mine, only that I got only one. well, later ismo red =B477 Cherokee (and soon maybe =B473 Wagoneer too)[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:10:06 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Re: Steering box breakage... On Sat, 7 Dec 1996, Joe Sego wrote: > At 03:40 PM 12/5/96 -0500, you wrote: > > > >yeah, Jeep did beef the steering box mount when they re-did the frame in > >74...but that does not make it indestructable...My friend Jason (73, 77 > >J-10s) has busted the 77 J-10's steering box off twice. Of course Jason > >is the guy who can break the crowbar in the sandbox. > > > > > Hey Mark, > What exactly breaks the steering box off? Is it while doing > some serious wheeling? Or is it a defect? Jason jumps the grey J-10. When he's not jumping it he's running fast on rough roads. Other casualites of Jason have been leaf springs, spring mounts, shackles. Mine has stuck together just fine though...I think it was getting pretty worn out though. Just keep an eye on it and you should be just fine. > > Snowing here....the Cheif is at the machine shop > having the plow hung on it as I type, nothing like > planning ahead huh? > Yup. > > C'ya > Joe- > > > Later Mark > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:22:09 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Re: brake fluid On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, Joe Sego wrote: > > In last post I forgot to answer John's question > about brake fluid. I'd go with DOT 3, but, > I would also completely drain the system and refill. > This is an area where *most* people fail their > maintenance chores. Brake fluid is not permanent, > it should be and requires a complete change! Brake > fluid absorbs moisture....moisture corrodes and rusts > brake lines from inside out (right Mark, Ed?) As far as I know my brake fluid was original...Forgot to ask John if my pedal felt spongy when I was in Snohomish...the pedal was feeling kinda yucky to me...Got some stainless steel brake lines waiting for me at home...my old lines are too short after I replaced the springs anyway...I'll probably go ahead and re-run the hard lines as well. I have a reckinong that water in the line causing rust is what takes out the old iron master cylinders...Jeep went to the Aluminum in 80 or thereabouts. > > For a measly $6-10 each, I change the brake fluid in all > my vehicles every couple years. I use the gravity > system and it's a snap. Learned that from years of > maintenance on my Vette. > > C'ya > Joe- > > > > ******************************************************* > *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * > *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* > *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * > *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* > ******************************************************* > > Later Mark > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:30:09 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Re:NAPA calipers... On Sun, 8 Dec 1996, john wrote: > At 11:35 PM 12/8/96 -0500, Joe Sego wrote > >> > >John, > >You should go to NAPA, they sold me loaded calipers for $23 each!! > >Thats with my discount. All shiney and newly rebuilt. An easy swap. > >btw that price was exchange, plus the pads are lifetime guaranteed! > >It seems I never have any trouble with NAPA parts, no so with the > >huge stores like Auto-Zone etc., imho they sell crap/garbage. Pay a > >little more and be worry-free. > > in 81 they changed the design of the caliber... I wonder if the > cost is the same for mine... I'll have to check... > > thanx for the info. btw, how to the brakes feel? these pads I > got from schucks don't do much to "grab" you... :) > > Either get NAPA or Bendix pads...had Car Quest pads on mine for about 30,000 miles...I cleaned those brakes a million times and they never shut up...My dad would always ask me what was wrong with the Jeep's brakes. NAPA pads shut it up real nice...now I can listen for any grinds or just listen to my Cherry bombs...or maybe try to listen to the radio. Later MArk[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:33:46 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Re: Voltage Regulator On 9 Dec 1996, Edwin Pedersen wrote: > Ol' White's voltage regulator is & has been TU for some time. > The voltage regulator is built-in to the temp gauge, incorporated > as part of the board. Rather than buying a new gauge and fighting > to install it, would it be feasible to just buy a new alternator with > a built in regulator in it, therefore bypass the defunct unit in the > temp gauge? > > Insert answers here ................... yes, extremely...this is a pretty common retrofit...more or less a bolt in. > > Ed Pedersen Vancouver B.C. Canada > '79 Cherokee Wide Track QT AT I6 > Dana 44's 3.54 gears > > > Later Mark > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 08:40:29 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: heat/defrost problem? The easiest thing would be if the main vacuum source was pulled free, its on the firewall, right behind that round resevior ( thing that looks like a black ball :)), the line going to the intrument panel is very small , way smaller than a normal vac. line... It goes from there to the back of the :off.heat.defrost: you have to remove the dash panel to get to that...I went through this when it got cold this year...[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:59:28 -0600 From: Greg Harper <freezer-at-indy.webbits.net> Subject: Re: heat/defrost problem? At 11:53 PM 12/7/96 -0500, you wrote: > >I noticed today that pushing the heater control >buttons didn't seem to divert the warm air as it >did. It seems to be stuck at sending the air about >50/50 to windshield and floor. What should I look >for to correct or trouble-shoot this problem? > >I know its vacuum, how does it remove, or do you >have to be a contortionist and lay upside down >with head in floor? > >Thanks, >Joe- > > > >******************************************************* >*1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * >*1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* >*ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * >*jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* >******************************************************* Hi, Is it on the 1979 Chief? My heater is stuck and someone else I talked to has the same problem. I unhooked my cable outside under the hood so I could have warmth. I wish there was someone who has fixed the problem to help me! I know I need a new cable but there isn't one to be found; we have a network of car parts outlets looking! My Chief is Orange soon to be white. I hate the orange they picked! The 360 is just with a fresh rebuild. Send them my way if you get helped! Thanks, Greg[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 07:05:25 -0700 From: trust-at-lanl.gov (Terry Rust) Subject: Re: 4.0L for Old Blue ?! John, Before plunking down any cabbage for the 4.0, be sure the xfer case output is on the correct side. My fleeting,failing, not worh a flip memory is suggesting that the "newfangled" jeeps are bassakwards up front. IF you do go this route, be sure to get the whole enchilada as a unit, they do some funky stuff with the newer ones, in fact, I would suggest a call to John at "the Last Stop 4wd" in Santa Fe, I know John has done a 4.0L into a 80s scrambler and is familiar with the difficulties associated with melding the technology of two different eras. If you decide to call, leave a message and he'll (eventually) call you back. 505 988 4383 I would expect the purchase price of the power package would be the cheap part of the swap, but I've been wrong before! Good luck (keep the v8, keep the v8, leep the v8,........) Terry Rust Pure guesswork has become the basis of a forecast that has been published in newspapers to be read and understood as a scientific statement." Endangered Species Blueprint, National Wilderness Institute "I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems." John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:38:28 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: 4.0L for Old Blue ?!
Terry,
I'm pretty sure the output is on the same side. I went over and looked
at the rig, tape measure and Old Blue with me... Remember, Old Blue
is an 81, seems that most of the radial stuff happened tht year.
AT this point, I want to work the vibration issue and get everthing
working first. The existing V-8 is a good motor, so I may do the
TBI thing first.
Time and money are the great limitations...
Still chasing parts for the Buick, seems like the ECM is the problem and
not the $130 ignition module... It's only about $80 though... THese newer
cars are very reliable and relatively easy to work on, but they sure don't
have much to aid troubleshooting... there wasn't any codes in the computer...
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:40:36 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: heat/defrost problem? Old Blue had this problem, I went down and bought then new dash panel at a wrecking yard, er , did I say new? you know what I meant... Turns out the cable came with it... at least in my case, the yard guy couldn't figure out how to undo it... later, john[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 06:44:19 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: Web pages > > At 10:07 PM 12/8/96 -0800, you wrote: > >My jeep page points to doc's home page that has the pointers to the > >jeep page that nobody can find because they pointed to the address that > >doc told them to but then he changed it to something else in a flash of > >creativity... :) > > > >anyway: > > ROFL... man... John that struck my funny bone :) :) > > > Doogie > > > > http://www./~john/JEEP.html > > > >(you'll find the link to doc's page advertised as the IFSJA link > >but it doesn't go there, but to doc's page, you'll find what you seek > there...) I try, I try... 99% of the time I must sound like a rambling nut... those that have met me can attest to the fact that it's really a 100% thing... john[Back to Top]
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