Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:30:42 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Re: heat/defrost problem? On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Kara Moloney and Mick Delaney wrote: > > you may need to drop the steering column a bit to pull put the > instrument panel - i had to on mine (75 wag . There are two vacumn actuators > on either side of the heater dist duct up under the dash. the one on the > left switches between feet/window. the one on the right closes the door in > the firewall to turn off heat. on an 83 parter w/o tilt column I didn't...took a little wresling to get it out though...if you have a good feel and decent patience you can probably swap the vacuum lines without pulling the dash. I didn't have the tools on hand to drop the column easily (I was in VT) though I think it's only two bolts. > If you can't figure out the vac. you can close off the vac source at > the vac tank on the bulkhead. the vac actuators are held on/off with > springs. popping the springs lets you set the position. I had to do this for > a while until I sorted that mess out. > Actually this reminds me of a stupid I made when I rebuilt my engine... main vcacuum line for the heater stuff...I had no idea what it was so I tied it back with a bunch of other stuff (including the cruise control) then I proceeded to drive across the country (through Oklahoma, Texas, Missouri, etc) with my heater stuck half on sweating like a pig, and then I drove through Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York and Mass in the middle of the night freezing my butt off. I eventually reconnected it to just manifold vacuum...worked well enough, but it wasn't correct. > have fun > mick > > > Later Mark > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:09:08 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Wallace <redgator-at-bu.edu> Subject: Re: tyre size + On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Terry Rust wrote: > > Mark, are you coming home for the holiday? Fixing the wagoneer? Capitol > Scrap metal in SF has a couple of Wagoneers, one I ransaked looked really > nice, Had I the $$, the Jtruck would have power leather seats. Interested > in a J10? Dec 23rd...don't know when I'm coming back here though...it's sort of a toss up of where I can get the most stuff done. Wagoneer needs gobs of work, but solar car is getting a whole new front suspension...actually a prototype of the final suspension...the guys graduating with undergraduate degrees who have worked on the solar car are generally getting paid a good $10,000 more a year than the folks who didn't...the project has good merit even if it is a glorified soap box car. Actually before the Beginning of May we are supposed to have built and tested both the prototype and the final new suspensions front and rear...there were a few design errors in the first suspension such as buckling loads...most of it is just about ready to collapse and that's without the additional weight of any of the 1000 lbs of batteries. Also the steering is all weird on the solar car...nobody quite understood the concept of Ackerman angle (in a turn the inside wheel has to turn more than the outside wheel) and due to error correction geometry the car had backwards Ackerman angle so bad that it would would stop in it's tracks at full steering lock. As for the Wagoneer it needs a lot of help too. If the block is destroyed Jason says he'll sell me the old 360 block out of his grey J-10. I'm not too certain about the crank on that one though...it's been sitting out of the engine for several months and may not be quite straight anymore. I'm figuring that my flexplate is trashed too, and I've still got my origional harmonic balancer which is probably a little rotten...I'd like to upgrade it eventually anyway. Tranny was working pretty much okay until probably the last 20 miles, but considereing the nature of the damage to my crank (and possibly my block) I wanna go through it...gonna go ahead and upgrade it too...probably B&M shift kit, B&M TC, and B&M heavy duty clutches. The heater box has a hole in it and because I dumped the exhaust in front of the rear axle it drafts real bad so you can't safely drive it without the windows open which makes for too cold Winter driving. Needs new (longer) brake lines, new shocks, Gonna probably close my fenders up with some sheet metal from the newspaper just to keep the exhaust out until I can repair them correctly. Then me and a buddy have to fix a chevy that got the wrong oil plug put in the pan...S-10 I think...they destroyed the pan...I think we're gonna pull the motor out of that one. > > I forgot what else I was going to talk about, it's only monday? what? .... > I probably said enough...by the way do you have an engine crane? > Terry Rust > > Pure guesswork has become the basis of a forecast that has been published > in newspapers to be read and understood as a scientific statement." > Endangered Species Blueprint, National Wilderness Institute > > "I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important > part in balancing > ecosystems." > John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal > > > Later Mark > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > >[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:26:24 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: re: the great jeep heist...
>during some construction they opened a previously sealed off tunnel
>and found Jeepster body's in there, they then (sit down please)
>rammed fork lifts through the doors drug'em out and scraped them!
> Doogie
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OOOUUUCCCHHH!!!!!!
Oh The HUMANITY!!!!!!!
How could anyone do that????
Brian
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| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
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| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
| SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 18:27:56 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: HEAVY DUTY ..... >What about us young yo-yo's with a 79 Chief and a big old boom...boom boom >stereo??? I guess I should keep it down (like off) arround you...UH-OH!! I let >my secret out!! Guess I'm in trouble now...:( Please dont be mad...<sniffle> > >Karl Streich >79 Chief... > >PS: The "old boom...boom boom stereo" is to show thoese honda guys that you can >have a real RIDE with, well, a "old boom...boom boom stereo", But I don't listen >to the boom...boom boom music...>RAP< > >Later Y'all Ever notice it seems all the boom-boom stereos are playing the same damn song!!!! Yea "Rap" I always thought they left off the first letter, the "C" is missing.......<BG> C'ya Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 18:34:13 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: heat/defrost problem? >>with head in floor? >> >>Thanks, >>Joe- >> >> >> >>******************************************************* >>*1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * >>*1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* >>*ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * >>*jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* >>******************************************************* > >Hi, >Is it on the 1979 Chief? My heater is stuck and someone else >I talked to has the same problem. I unhooked my cable >outside under the hood so I could have warmth. I wish there >was someone who has fixed the problem to help me! >I know I need a new cable but there isn't one to be found; >we have a network of car parts outlets looking! > >My Chief is Orange soon to be white. I hate the orange they picked! >The 360 is just with a fresh rebuild. > >Send them my way if you get helped! >Thanks, >Greg > Hi Greg, My heat door works fine, the cable is in great shape, what I am talking about is the buttons that dirvert the air to floor or windshield. I got plenty-o-heat, not just where I want it. :-) C'ya Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown 144,000 mi.* *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 16:52:15 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: heat/defrost problem?
On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Greg Harper wrote:
> Hi,
> Is it on the 1979 Chief? My heater is stuck and someone else
> I talked to has the same problem. I unhooked my cable
> outside under the hood so I could have warmth. I wish there
> was someone who has fixed the problem to help me!
> I know I need a new cable but there isn't one to be found;
> we have a network of car parts outlets looking!
>
> My Chief is Orange soon to be white. I hate the orange they picked!
> The 360 is just with a fresh rebuild.
>
> Send them my way if you get helped!
> Thanks,
> Greg
My '79 has the same frozen heat control cable. Must've been a big problem
'cuz it sounds like almost all of the '79s have it.
Brian
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| briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Activities Director UtahFWDA |
| justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
|---------------------------------------------------------|
| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
| SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
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[Back to Top]Date: 09 Dec 96 18:50:49 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Web pages > I try, I try... 99% of the time I must sound like a rambling nut... > those that have met me can attest to the fact that it's really a 100% > thing... > > john Isn't the rambling nut thing a requirement for the list??? Kind of interesting to see that there are other people who own FSJ's and are nuts. Karl Streich 79 Chief[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 18:50:46 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: the great jeep heist... > Actually I asked a friend about the rumors, and he said he was an eye > witness when during some construction they opened a previously sealed off > tunnel and found Jeepster body's in there, they then (sit down please) > rammed fork lifts through the doors drug'em out and scraped them! There are > other tunnels who knows what's in'em... > > Doogie I think I might need to borrow a shotgun...What are these people thinking?? How could you KILL a Jeep?? That is just wrong!!! Karl Streich 79 Chief PS:If we could find thoes tunnles that might work just as good as the time machine... :)[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 18:55:48 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: WANTED: Drivers rear door Hey, Does anyone have a drivers rear door to match an 83 wagoneer laying arround? I finaly got the wrecked one open... Karl Streich 79 Chief, 83 Wag 60 miles north of San Francisco[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:04:08 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: John Mettler oh, John Mettler wrote: > > At 07:26 PM 12/8/96 -0800, you wrote: > >87 what?? > > Grand Wagoneer > > Doogie > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:13:05 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: tyre size + is this CA SF or some other state?? Terry Rust wrote: > > > Mark, are you coming home for the holiday? Fixing the wagoneer? Capitol > Scrap metal in SF has a couple of Wagoneers, one I ransaked looked really > nice, Had I the $$, the Jtruck would have power leather seats. Interested > in a J10? > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:28:23 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: the great jeep heist... IM AS MAD AS HELL, AND IM NOT GONNA TAKE THIS ANY MORE!! Brian Riggs wrote: > > >during some construction they opened a previously sealed off tunnel > >and found Jeepster body's in there, they then (sit down please) > >rammed fork lifts through the doors drug'em out and scraped them! > > Doogie > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:30:44 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Doogie!! how long ago was this fork lift crime perpetrated?? -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 1996 16:32:00 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: WANTED: Drivers rear door call macjeeper, hes in martinez. he just towed my 67 away. -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 17:43:26 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Full-Size Jeep Lift
On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Jeff Gunn wrote:
>
> I noticed on your last Full-Size Jeep List post that you have a
> Skyjacker SoftLift installed on your Cherokee. I have a '78 Cherokee
> which I would like to lift about 4" so that I can put some decent tires
> on it. I was quoted a SoftLift, and was wondering how you liked yours,
> and if you would suggest it or another manufacturer. I intend to do the
> installation myself, so if you did yours I'd also be interested in any
> comments about the installation. I hope you don't mind my inquiry, but
> I'd like to find out before I shell out the $$$.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Jeff Gunn
> '78 Cherokee
> 4dr, 360 2bbl, TH-400, Quadra-Trac, Levis interior
> jgunn-at-hou.varco.com
>
Jeff,
No problem, that's why we're all here. I really like the skyjackers, one
of the other guys in my club put them on his wagoneer too and he loves
them. We both replaced all four springs. About the only tip I could give
you is that after the lift the truck seemed to turtle a little(back seemed
slightly lower than the front) we both ended up putting 2" blocks on the
rear springs to correct this. Everything else went very smoothly. I like
these springs because of the ride and also the wheel travel I get down in
moab. Let me know if you have any other specific ?s.
Brian
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| briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Activities Director UtahFWDA |
| justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
|---------------------------------------------------------|
| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
| SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 18:08:46 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: moab
On Thu, 5 Dec 1996, Kenneth E. Wetherall wrote:
>
> Brian, is Easter Jeep still on for 97??? When
> should i expect the reg package??
> have u taken ur FSJ on it?
> if so, what trails?
> mine is like urs, ceot for the 32 BFG's and the th400 i got :(
>
>
> --
> Sincerely
>
> Kenneth Wetherall
> kenns-at-concentric.net
>
Ken,
The newspapers are at the printers and should be mailed out shortly. I'm
not an official on any of the trails this year but I was Tailgunner on
Kane Creek Canyon the last two years.
I've done the following trails in my Cherokee(easiest to hardest IMHO):
Chicken Corners
Secret Spire
3D
Poison Spider Mesa
Porcipine Rim
Gold Bar Rim
Kane Creek Canyon
Lion's Back(not hard, just nerve wracking)
Cliff Hanger
Metal Masher
Strike Ravine
Moab Rim(with Egg Ranch Fin and Death Row)
Hell's Revenge(with Potato Salad Hill)
Behind the Rocks(up White Knuckle Hill)
Golden Spike
Pritchett Canyon
I don't know if I missed any but that's all I can think of right now.
There is also one of the guys in our club that has a Grand Wagoneer(The
Griswold Family Truckster) that has done most of these too. I'll have to
scan in some of my better pix and send them to you.
Brian
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| briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Activities Director UtahFWDA |
| justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
|---------------------------------------------------------|
| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
| SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
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[Back to Top]Date: 09 Dec 96 20:36:07 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: SV: Tyres-how big Widetrac80-at-aol.com writes: >> But a wide trac sits much higher than a wagoneer, well at least mine does :)! << That's mainly because of tire height differences. The springs originally on all FSJs are within 1" of each other. We did that before on the list by measuring the distance from the ground to the top of the drip rail just above the rear of the front door. Then we measured the distance from the ground to the center of one of the hubs or wheel caps. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000AMGZHGcHH7521F9[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 20:36:11 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: RE: Barn Doors john <john-at-> writes: >> this was a 67 Panel. << John, I think that is a '65 Panel. It had/has a Tornado under the hood. Ken? -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000DMGcHGlMG|HG748A01[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 20:36:25 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: What happen John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> writes: >> Anyone care to share anything pertinent I might have missed? << I think I screwed-up when I copied the subject for this thread? Doogie, you didn't miss anything. The list server likes to have weekends off from time to time. I think there must be a server's union or something now since, it seems to now be taking every weekend off :-). I have a airline pilot friend we nick-named Doogie also when we were flying Japanese tourists to the Big Ditch (Grand Canyon). I won't forget now :-). -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000EMGkHGtMG60HHBBE780[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 20:36:29 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Q-Trac steering knuckle Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> writes: >> dana 44 front (which I want to convert to 8 lug..anyone know what I need to do?), << Jim, you need everything outboard of the steering knuckles from a J-truck (3/4 ton or higher) with 8 lugs. You'll also have to run 16" wheels since the 44HD has 12.5" brakes. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000AMGiHGrHGFD78B4[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 20:36:36 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Voltage Regulator Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> writes: >> l' White's voltage regulator is & has been TU for some time. The voltage regulator is built-in to the temp gauge, incorporated as part of the board. Rather than buying a new gauge and fighting to install it, would it be feasible to just buy a new alternator with a built in regulator in it, therefore bypass the defunct unit in the temp gauge? Insert answers here ................... << Ed, the regulator on the instrument panel just keeps the gauges from fluctuating when the voltage output from the alternator changes. It supplies a steady 5 volts (I think?) to the gauges. The regulator in the alternator regulates the voltage for the whole truck. If you gauges aren't working because the little regulator is history, you are going to have to dig the whole thing out and change the temp. gauge. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000EMGqHGzMH6FHIC5EE7E[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 20:36:19 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: spent day with the Chief Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> writes: >> Geeez, not much room under there? Kinda hard to find a spot to drill, and I don't have AC.! << Yup, I have often said the hardest part of X was finding a place to drill a hole in the firewall. I'm totally out of room on the left side of the Chero. >> While my head was under the dash I noticed the wiring is a nighmare! Did the factory do it this way or was it the yo-yo I bought it from? No rhyme or reason to any of it. I fail to see a easy way to correct it. Big wads of wire below glove compartment another near the steering column. I hope tomorrow we find one of the "wads" from the stereo, that would be easy to correct. << I don't remember it being real bad above the glove box but, yea; that's the way they come from the factory. Funny thing is, the wiring has always made sense when I need to troubleshoot or find a wire? Like when I was trying to find the wire that powers all 47 of the dome lights (okay...4 of them). I wanted to be able to leave the doors open without all the dome lights running the battery dead. Example, It's nice to be able to leave the doors open, stereo blasting, while you're skinny dipping w/ the opposite sex in a natural hot springs under a train trestle at 2 a.m. just before the Sheriff drives up and turns your stereo down. Then he tells you to get out of the water and leave because you are on private property but, unfortunately your clothes are up on on of the trestle's supports about 75 feet away and he has no plans of leaving until you both leave. So, "I" end-up having to parade over and get them. Anybody ever try the same? ...I mean installing a switch for the dome lights. There is no fuse or breaker in the fuse box for the lights. They are powered off the headlight switch with it's own circuit breaker built in to the switch. I installed a switch under the dash that shuts the dome lights off. The switch even lights-up when the dome lights are shut-off and I open the door. It's so kewl. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000AMG_HGhHM396300[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:22:36 -0700 From: wmbecht-at-sni.net (Wm Bechtel) Subject: Re: the great toledo plant heist... >At 12:58 AM 12/7/96 -0700, Wm Bechtel wrote: >>>> >>>> >BTW, do you know where they keep the extra SJ parts? HEY DOC, I found= us > On 12/7/96 9:48am john wrote: >please Wm, no more smoking messages... I can hardly read the screen... :) "smoking messages=8A I can hardly read the screen... :)" - Sorry john - but this went right over my head - phueeettt? What you mean? Wm[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 19:53:45 -0700 From: wmbecht-at-sni.net (Wm Bechtel) Subject: Wag Nickname (humor) After we traded our WAG in - my wife mentioned our departed Wag to one of the gals that she works out with at the health club. They have a 79 or so older Wag - which they meticulously take care of. The next time they met she relayed what her husband had said when he found out we got rid of our WAG? - "Oh, you mean they got rid of their Bovine!!!" How sad! They used to live in in the mountains of Colorado and one day parked along side a field to watch the cattle grazing with their kids, - and made an important discovery - "Hey our Wagoneer is the same color as these here grazing fellers - so they nicknamed their Wag - "Bovine." Well maybe its not that funny! Seemed so at the time. Wm[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 21:54:03 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: New Guy Matt Kirkwood <kirkwood-at-lsil.com> writes: >> The listserver said there wasn't any info for this list and the home page I found (http://www.zynet.com/~k_high/fsj/) seems to be down. << Welcome Matt! I have figured-out how to get rid of zynet on Yahoo. Hopefully it'll be gone soon. I'll e-mail how to add a link to Yahoo to the FSJ clowns with the "big" sites. Matt, Zynet used to host the FSJ list but, the company went out of business. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000EMGgHGpMG9CHH695025[Back to Top]
Date: 09 Dec 96 21:53:57 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: RE: Re: [fwd: Re: 4 dr. Wide-Traks dmatheny-at-mutoh.com writes: >> Sorry it took so long to get these measurements. Hope they are of some use to you. << Thanks Dan...no need to apologize! Yes they will be of "some" use. Just as fast as I can get my inside domestic chores done, I'll be out in the garage with the wheels off and the tape measure out. I'll post what I find out. Plus, while I'm out there; I'll get out the Mothers metal polish, the small buffer that fits my drill and I'll polish-up my new open face center caps. Thanks Terry...arrived today safe and sound. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 09-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000EMGZHGcMG5EHHB5A111[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 22:31:22 -0500
From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net>
Subject: Re: New Subscriber
john wrote:
>
> welcome aboard ron...
>
> as far as pictures, feel free to send them to me and doc
> for our web pages... and let everyone else know you have them
> and they can email you off the list for 'em... the listmom
> highly recommended that we don't "hurt" the listserver with
> large attachments...
That is what I thought you might say.
> We'd all love to hear about your 77 and the washed out trails...
I'll send separately and "build-up" history. My '77 is basically a
labor of love, it was brought back from the dead 10 years ago.
>
> are you near the Shennado?(SP) National Geographic just did a piece
> on it... pretty country, not very hilly though... seriously,
> how high are the hills out there?
I can see the Shenandoah mountains from my back deck (when the leaves
are off the trees). The highest "hills" are just over 4000 ft. Not
high by Rocky Mtn stds as my father reminds us, but not too bad for the
eastern states. I know some trails that come to within a mile of
Skyline Drive, where further travel is limited by gates.
I guess I should have picked op on it by now, but where do you hail
from, John?
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:47:17 -0500 From: diogenes <diogenes-at-onslowonline.net> Subject: Re: re: The Revival of the Two Whole Jeeps Idea >hey, we've got all kinds on this list, pilots, Jeep builders, etc... >any lawyers on the list? We may need y'all... You've got the lawyers and the Marines (inspected, injected, detected, infected, neglected and see-lected) too. They'll let anyone drive an FSJ these days... Curt Allen '75 Wag[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 22:51:11 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: SV: Tyres-how big Im running 31x10.5 and they have enough room all around I can stick my head between the tire and body, Maybe my truck was lifted before I bought it, How would I tell?[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 22:55:41 -0500
From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net>
Subject: Re: tyre size +
In regard to tire size, I can't say for sure with 33", but to let you
know, I have 32"x11.50 and have never had them rub. '77 wide track, 2"
lift (did not extend the bump stops, so should not make a difference in
whether the tire rubs or not).
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:02:05 -0500
From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net>
Subject: Re: lowrange...
> low range is a good thing to have... even if you don't go wheelin'
>
> doc can tell stories about pulling school buses,
> my old man pulled a water tower,
> I've yanked 3/4 ton Ford Vans buried to their axles in mud...
> I've pulled folks out of ditches during snow...
>
> ALL ON PAVEMENT... in civilization...
>
> low range is a good thing... :)
>
> john
>
Good for backing tandem trailers, loaded with firewood, '46 CJs etc, in
tight twisting, unlevel, driveways too.
,
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:08:10 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Murphy, well not really I procrastinate, as usual, wait until the first snow is actually falling, only got 1.5 inches... take the Chief to machine shop to have plow welded on and all new bracket'try fabricated.....pick it up friday evening....work on the wiring and necessary accessories all weekend......this week's forcast; "Unseasonably high temps, upper 50's and some rain" Welcome to Indiana...don't like the weather? Hang aroung 5 minutes, it'll change. C'ya Joe- ******************************************************* *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/* *******************************************************[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 23:18:54 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: lowrange... You can also outrun many so called fast cars...0 to 30 at least...:)[Back to Top]
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:18:37 -0500
From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net>
Subject: Re: Jacobs Electronics
Terry Rust wrote:
>I'm sure you guys have been through this thread a gazillion times
before.
>
>I'm fixing to order the Jacobs Ultra pack for my '91 GW.
>The objective is better mileage (now ~12.5 MPG) and maybe better
starts in
>the cold.
>Before I spend all that money I'd like some input from the experts:
>
>Good, bad, indifferent ???
>Is there a 'better' alternative?
>
This my experience with Jacobs: My '77 360 had a "miss" for the 10
years that I owned it, even with new plugs, wires, cap, rotor, etc.
This year the electronic module went out, so I finally broke down and
bought a Jacobs Ultra Team (mucho $). The "miss" went away, my tailpipe
is now grey/brown instead of sooty black, and it idles smoother. To be
honest though, I don't notice a seat-of-the-pants performance increase,
and even though I never checked the mileage on a regular basis, I'm not
sure that it got noticeably better. I did get 13.5 on the last trip
(heavily loaded with family stuff, in the mountains).
Would I do it again? I guess so, after all, I didn't send it back on
their 60 day guarantee, and I do love that smooth idle.
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:30:51 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Full-Size Jeep Lift
At 05:43 PM 12/9/96 -0700, Brian Riggs wrote:
>On Mon, 9 Dec 1996, Jeff Gunn wrote:
>>>
>> I noticed on your last Full-Size Jeep List post that you have a
>> Skyjacker SoftLift installed on your Cherokee.
How much for an 81 Wagoneer?? All 4 springs... would be happy with
2 to 3" of lift... have a mix of mid 70's springs & add a leafs now...
john
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Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:37:40 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: RE: Barn Doors
oh...
I guess I was flashing back... I was scouring parts yards looking
for a set of those doors when I had my 67...
At 08:36 PM 12/9/96 EST, Michael Baxter wrote:
>john <john-at-> writes:
>> >> this was a 67 Panel. <<
>> John, I think that is a '65 Panel. It had/has a Tornado under the hood. Ken?
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 23:36:53 -0500
From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net>
Subject: Re: moab
> scan in some of my better pix and send them to you.
>
> Brian
> *---------------------------------------------------------*
> | briggs-at-genetics.utah.edu | Activities Director UtahFWDA |
> | justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
> | | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
> |---------------------------------------------------------|
> | '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
> | with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
> | SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
> *---------------------------------------------------------*
Sounds like a nice rig, copy those pictures to me, if you don't mind.
Thanks
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'77 Cherokee 360, 400TH, QT, 2" lift, 32"
'46 CJ2A V6, T90, rear 44 w/locker, 5.38, 32"
[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:46:56 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: the great toledo plant heist...
I dunno.... there was something about the transmission that
caused me to write that... ain't got a clue now... =20
another good reason why you should never write email and send it
right away... let it "season" for a little while... :)
????????
john
At 07:22 PM 12/9/96 -0700, Wm Bechtel wrote:
>>At 12:58 AM 12/7/96 -0700, Wm Bechtel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >BTW, do you know where they keep the extra SJ parts? HEY DOC, I=
found us
>On 12/7/96 9:48am john wrote:
>>please Wm, no more smoking messages... I can hardly read the screen... :)
>
>"smoking messages=8A I can hardly read the screen... :)"
>- Sorry john - but this went right over my head - phueeettt? What you=
mean?
>Wm
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They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."=20
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:53:00 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: New Subscriber
At 10:31 PM 12/9/96 -0500, Ron wrote:
>john wrote:
>I'll send separately and "build-up" history. My '77 is basically a
>labor of love, it was brought back from the dead 10 years ago.
cool, most of us revive ours every now and then... :)
>
>I can see the Shenandoah mountains from my back deck (when the leaves
>are off the trees). The highest "hills" are just over 4000 ft. Not
>high by Rocky Mtn stds as my father reminds us, but not too bad for the
>eastern states. I know some trails that come to within a mile of
>Skyline Drive, where further travel is limited by gates.
4,000 ain't too shabby... I didn't know they were that high back there.
I figured they were only good for about 3,000 feet... hmmm...
don't you hate gates?
>I guess I should have picked op on it by now, but where do you hail
>from, John?
Snohomish, Washington - about 10 miles East of Everett, 26 miles North
and East of Seattle. About 20 miles north of Bellevue. Find a map,
find US 2, go west until you hit Washington State Route 9, go south
about 8 miles or so and there I am... on the side of a hill, only
350 feet above sea level... 1 mile from my drive is sea level, go the
other way about 2 miles and you're at 600 feet. That 600 foot ridge
runs over to the Puget Sound. Go East from my place and you get into
the Cascades...
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Mon, 09 Dec 1996 20:55:01 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: SV: Tyres-how big
At 10:51 PM 12/9/96 -0500, Widetrac80-at-aol.com wrote:
>Im running 31x10.5 and they have enough room all around I can stick my head
>between the tire and body, Maybe my truck was lifted before I bought it, How
>would I tell?
I've got 235's on mine, and about a 2 inch lift and
I don't think I could do that... I'm just happy I can see AROUND
the tire... :)
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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