Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:34:56 -0600 From: "Jeff Hess" <jhess169-at-edgerton.mn.frontiercomm.net> Subject: Re: Jeep/Outdoor Channel I have a BUD in my back yard, I got the complete system for $400. I spent another $275 for a better IRD so the total cost was around $675. Not only in the programming cheaper on the big dish, but there is more variety. There are several channels that you cannot get on DSS. Also there is the "feeds". You can watch a program weeks earlier if you find the network feed. Jeff Hess 1988 Grand Wagoneer.[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:42:06 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief At 10:29 PM 12/18/96 EST, you wrote: >Joe- you did say that you replaced the filters right? My '78 Buick wag. had a >fuel problem where it would flow fuel until the demand increased and sucked >dirt up against the screen, killing the motor. After shut-down the stuff >would settle and the Bu-hog would start again. Same thing goes for tank... >Brad Feick > Brad, Yes I replaced the inline filter between pump and carb. I'm on the second one since sept. btw the one I just took off did not appear to have any garbage in it. Wish I had a clear glass one. Can't find one with 2 inlets and 1 outlet. I'll pull gas line in morning and crank engine, catch what comes out and see how it looks. C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 23:46:52 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief Ive seen the fuel pump block off plates for SB chevy, and Fords but not an AMC, does it interchange with one of these?[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 20:54:45 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief
>Hmmm, if I pull the top off do I need a new gasket?
>
>C'ya
>joe-
not unless you tear it... I hassled with a carb on
my 67 and then on a couple xj's with those nasty 2.8's...
john
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Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 00:19:50 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: RUBICON Kenneth E. Wetherall wrote: > > NEVER GO WHEELING ALONE OR IN ONLY > ONE VEHICLE.......PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > -- I agree with Ken, and I have a story to illustrate: Several years ago my parents were visiting, and I thought that I would treat them to some of the beautiful trails I had discovered. About five miles into the national park we came to a river crossing. It was one that I had gone thru a dozen times, but that day it looked different. Someone had dammed up the crossing to make a swimming area. So, instead of crossing approximately level (but over 6" to 2ft rocks) the Cherokee was leaning to the right at about 20 degrees. On the wet rocks this made us slip to the right as we progressed. Unfortunately, on the far side was a Jeep-sized rock on the right side. It became appearent after slipping down several times that I was not going to clear that rock. So I stopped and backed up to get a better angle. But I then slipped even farther to the right. Now I decided to back up as far as I could, and make a run for it, but when I backed up this time, I got the rear diff completely high centered on a rock! The back tires were not touching anything. I opened the door to get out, and the water was literally an inch from flooding over the door sill. (luckily, even though my '77 had acres of rust in its life, the floors have been in good shape). The situation did not look good. By pure dumb luck though, I had thrown a come-a-long into the back before I left. It would not pull the Jeep forward, but I did manage to pull the back sideways enough to get the diff off the rock, and tires touching something. I got in, started it, gave it a bunch of throttle, and bounced my way out of there. I did clip that big rock with the quarter panel (still have the dent today), but I was free. It seemed like a hopeless situation. We were not that far from civilization, but it was getting dark, threatening rain, (and we are in the middle of a river at the bottom of a mountain.) A friendly tug from another vehicle would have made things very easy. Ken is right! Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:03:16 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief
At 10:21 PM 12/18/96 EST, M_B_FEICK wrote:
>support (for lights), etc. I never assume (rust) that just because the cab is
>bolted to the fender (for example) that they are at the same ground potential.
grounds are very important. And it's also important to make sure that you
have ONE common ground point. Daisy chaining is ok to some extent, but
you need to have everything tied back to the neg terminal. This becomes
somewhat more important with computers on board... :)
> Remove man. pump and install block off plate. But watch out! The
>extra horepower gained by eliminating the man. pump drag may cause your tires
>to go up in smoke!
maybe I outta go electric on Old Blue... :)
>
> Find a 12v line at ign. switch or at fuse box that comes on with the
>RUN ign.key position. Use that as your relay switcher and run a beef wire as
>the 12v to run pump. A real smart guy like say John or Micheal could best
>recommend to put relay under hood or at pump. I would think under hood. I
>don't like the idea of a relay near my tank, but that's just me.
I wouldn't bother with a relay... one more failure point... but do do
the fuse thing... we don't need no flaming fsj's... :)
Ken has a good idea, have a momentary contact switch to engage pump prior
to "lighting" it off...
don't forget to yell clear... <rofl, that was great ken...>
>I think it's time to go home soon...
>Brad Feick
john,
who needs to go into the home to use the facilities... but it's
ccccoooolllllddddd out tttheree...
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:04:28 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief
At 10:23 PM 12/18/96 EST, M_B_FEICK wrote:
>>Hmmm, if I pull the top off do I need a new gasket?
>
>How's yer luck?
>Brad
>
Well put. A man that's been there. Played the odds...
and probably lost... :)
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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[Back to Top]Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 22:09:03 -0800
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief
Joe,
on the plate, you could pull the fuel pump and remove the
dowel rod type thing that actually contacts the pump flapper
thing, that way you could just leave the stock pump in place.
Save the hassle of trying to adapt or build a plate... I
wish I had thought of this before... :) If the flapper thing
rides directly on the lobe, well, sorry, you will have to
buy a plate... I suppose I could look, but you'll find
out soon enough... I'd also figure a way of securing that
little dowel right by or on the pump so if you lost your
electric you could reconnect the stock pump... so you
should probably plumb stuff to that point...
just a thought... might come in handy down the road, or trail... :)
>Good instructions....how about the return line, leave it as is?
yes
>Can you buy the plate at a place like NAPA to block off
>where old pump was? Is it necessary to remove old pump?
maybe - look for that "push rod", if it comes out, yes.
>(hey it's going down to 4 tonite and high tomorrow is 14)
>C'ya
>Joe
brrrr
20's here too...
john
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"When they came for the 2nd Amendment, I said nothing, for I owned no gun
Then the sixth was next to go, and I remained silent, as I was not on trial
They took away the fourth, and I said nothing, as I had nothing to hide
And then they came for the First, and I could say nothing."
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john-at- http://www./~john
81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited
Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold.
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Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free...
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 02:04:56 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief In a message dated 96-12-18 22:46:11 EST, you write: << Remove man. pump and install block off plate. But watch out! The extra horepower gained by eliminating the man. pump drag may cause your tires to go up in smoke! >> Could I realistically expect an increased output? what about the extra load on the Alternator?, also, anybody used or got opinions on the Cagle type vacuum fuel pressure regulators? I guess id need something with an electric pump... thanks![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 03:26:13 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: compressor Do any of the electric compressors that dont cost half the trucks value match the output of the AC compressor? Which electric can someone recommend? Id like to get an AC just to put on my old beater ford truck, mainly to air up tires for my jeep![Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 04:15:01 EST From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: I BET INDY JOE HATES ME !! Joe, I hate to tell you this but, lately, I have been starting Ol' White up every few weeks (PITA, as it needs a new choke) and once it starts up, it just purrs like a kitten while it's running, even on short runs to work out the cobwebs. Even when I was using Ol' White regularly during the summer, it would run pretty good. THAT is a BIG surprise, considering all the things that need repairing or replacing, too numerous to list here. It's ironic, when I read all the new bits and pieces on your FSJ compared to all the work mine needs, I'm in awe that Ol' White even runs !! There's that FSJ mystique again, GOTTA LOVEM !!!! Ed Pedersen Vancouver B.C. Canada ( with a running, but parked FSJ) '79 Cherokee Wide Track QT I6 AT PS Good 2 door-vs-4 door thread going :)) Just how many doors do you need on a FSJ at any given time to kick at when working on it anyways ??? (G)[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 04:15:10 EST From: Edwin Pedersen <102551.2631-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: 100 MSGS/DAY !! BOY-O-BOY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Up to 100 msgs almost daily, on this list alone...... Phew, this is almost become a chore. No, not really, I could be doing some of those husbandly things around the house, NOW THOSE are chores (G) I am on holidays this week and I have been enjoying it all to heck. Spoil the kids by driving them to school, spoil the SO by starting up the car in the morning, ( I get to drive the Yuppie-Mobile this week, YEAH) AND THEN, Have the house all to myself for the whole day YEEEEAAAHHHH Keep those cards and letters coming in folks, I'm reading all of them, _even_ John M's (BG)[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:41:32 -0500 From: TCOLLINS-at-aol.com Subject: Exterior wood grain trim strips for GW OK, now that I've completed all body work and paint just on my '85 GW, anyone got any ideas on finding replacement for the trim strips that go around the wood grain? I salvaged all my old when I stripped everything off but it's slightly rippled and off color from our great Florida sunshine. Last resort would be to paint it before reinstalling it but don't know how that would look. Suggestions anyone? Tom Collins, Tampa[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 08:43:10 -0500 From: Rick Terhune <terhuner-at-smtpgw2.musc.edu> Subject: Light Bar Stuff Regarding this talk about light bars. How about mounting lights on the roof rack? Not stock rack. Aftermarket, like Garvin Industries Or Con-Ferr? I was thinking of mounting two pencil beam lights on tabs in the front of the rack and two flood lights on the back angled down and wire them into the backup circuit. Anybody try this? Rick - Jeepin by the Sea[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 07:09:25 -0700 From: trust-at-lanl.gov (Terry Rust) Subject: Re: QT lift & Drool-causing wagoneer >A >>>Carr light bar? I been looking for one of those for a long time, any ideas >>>where to find one? >>> >>>C'ya >>>Joe- >> >>I found one in my garage this past weekend that came off my J 10, make me >>an offer, since they're scarce ... >> >>Terry Rust >> >Hi Terry, will it fit a Chief? How does it mount? >Painted or chrome? (don't really care about that) >I'M INTERESTED, tell me more..... It is a Carr, Chrome center piece with alum caps and mounts to the gutter above the door. It was on my 78 J10 when I bought it with two disfunctional lights, I pulled it and set it aside. As I remember ( remember I am old and don't do much well anymore, especially remember) it wasn't a great fit to the roof line, but it was secure and looked like it fit ok. That is about all there is to it. terry[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:29:51 -0600
From: Greg_Loxtercamp-at-datacard.com (Greg Loxtercamp)
Subject: Re[2]: Stuttering Chief
Joe, I had a similar problem last winter. After putting in a new
engine, I had the timing adjusted incorrectly. Soon after the engine
installation, I started having carb problems. Idled fine, but as soon
as I would take off, it would spudder, until I gave it full
acceleration. The carb overhaul lasted only shortly, a second
overhaul (under warantee), finally (on the third trip back to the carb
shop) they found that the diaphram under the carb was fractured (this
might be the power valve, yah, I think so). They diaphram will blow
with the back pressure of backfiring. Replace this and see what
happens, it fixed my problem.
Greg Loxtercamp
'79 Wagoneer
Motorcraft 2150 carb - the 2150 is the 2100 with the altitude
compensation circuit in the back of the carb.
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Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief
Author: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> at Internet
Date: 12/18/96 9:42 PM
At 11:17 AM 12/18/96 -0600, you wrote:
>
>I know you had the carb rebuilt recently, but what about a sticking
>float, or needle? I am not familiar with your particular carb, but it
>may not hurt to pop the top off and fiddle with the floats and needles.
> Also check and see if there is junk in your float bowl, this may
>indicate contamination of the gas. Even little bitty particles can
>stick a float or needle.
>
>Another tough one....
>
>Jeff
>
Hmmm, if I pull the top off do I need a new gasket?
C'ya
joe-
>
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:36:26 -0600 From: brewer-at-thaad.tecmas.com (John Brewer) Subject: Re: Re:BSME >I assume you also have a BS ME since you were asking about mine? All us >Jeepers are technical in one way or the other... > >Jeff Gotta love it. John Brewer, BS Physics, MSAE, Auburn University "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." Benjamin Franklin[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:01:08 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: QT lift & Drool-causing wagoneer
On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Gary Sanders wrote:
>
> >When I lifted mine I Didn't change the driveLine right away and it worked
> >ok on the road but I wouldn't have dared take it to moab like that. I had
> >both drivelines re-tubed and lengthened so I could get some good wheel
> >travel without tearing them apart.
> >
> >Brian
> >
>
> How much "slack" do you have in the drive line? How high can you lift a FSJ
> without changing the drive line. What if you want to change the drive
> lines, drop by your local auto part store with the old one and say I want
> one just like this only 2 inches longer???
>
> Gary W. Sanders gws-at-n8emr.nitetech.com
The best way to handle it is to do the lift them measure the distance
between the center of the yokes, then take it to a driveline shop and the
will put the right size tube in it and also let you know if the slip joint
or Double cardan joint(front) needs to be replaced. My driveline was
hammered enough that I just had a new one built then kept my old one as a
spare.
Brian(needs spare drivelines)
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| justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
|---------------------------------------------------------|
| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:37:42 -0700 (MST)
From: Brian Riggs <Brian.Riggs-at-genetics.utah.edu>
Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief
On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, john wrote:
> >(hey it's going down to 4 tonite and high tomorrow is 14)
> >C'ya
> >Joe
>
> brrrr
>
> 20's here too...
>
> john
That's better than the 2 degrees it got here last night!! I have to finish
installing my new Ring and Pinions this weekend, it's only supposed to get
up to 22 degrees and I don't have a garage. Can you say frozen hands?
Brian(Pray for me this weekend)
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| justbr-at-aol.com | Storm Mountain 4X4 SLC Ut |
| | Red Rock 4Wheelers Moab Ut |
|---------------------------------------------------------|
| '79 Jeep Cherokee Sport: AMC 360, T18, Dana20, Dana 44s |
| with Lock-Rites Front & Rear, 35" BFG M/Ts, 4" SkyJacker|
| SoftRide Lift, Some rust, And lots of dents. =8) |
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[Back to Top]Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:01:41 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Jeep/Outdoor Channel At 10:34 PM 12/18/96 -0600, you wrote: >I have a BUD in my back yard, I got the complete system for $400. I spent >another $275 for a better IRD so the total cost was around $675. Not only >in the programming cheaper on the big dish, but there is more variety. >There are several channels that you cannot get on DSS. Also there is the >"feeds". You can watch a program weeks earlier if you find the network >feed. > >Jeff Hess >1988 Grand Wagoneer. > Jeff, I subscribe to OnSat magazine, they have a special section for network feeds. I watched tonite's ER last nite. Home Improvement is on T-1 channel 6 about every 2 hours, guess it's for the syndication stations, they're reruns. Always time for a good -grunt- :-) What I really enjoy doing (way too much time on my hands) is the watch tonites Jeopardy or Wheel of Fortune in the morning, then when they air locally (our supper time) I *am* the genius of the family :-) Ya gotta love it! C'ya Joe WAY off topic once again 4 degrees, on it's way to 12 !!!![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 09:08:11 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Re:BSME >How about you, with an ME are you designing some cool things? Using any >CAD packages? I wonder what engineering degree would be required to >design toilets, an ME or CE? just a thought, no rival engineering degree >jousting intended... although that might be more fun than the 2 dr 4 dr thing... :) > > Being an ME myself, I think I can answer this question with the following joke: What 3 things do you need to know to be a Civil Engineer (CE)? 1. The sum of all forces in a static structure are zero. 2. The sum of all moments in a static structure are zero. 3. Shit flows down hill! (This is the toilet part) Kind of geeky, I know, but I heard it from an EE and everyone knows you can't spell GEEK without an EE. -Tom Anhalt '81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo '65 Buick Special Convertible Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:10:27 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Light Bar Stuff At 08:43 AM 12/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >Regarding this talk about light bars. >How about mounting lights on the roof rack? >Not stock rack. Aftermarket, like Garvin Industries Or Con-Ferr? >I was thinking of mounting two pencil beam lights on tabs in the front of >the rack and two flood lights on the back angled down and wire them >into the backup circuit. >Anybody try this? > >Rick - Jeepin by the Sea > You know I thought about tying the factory roof rack for the rear lights. Never did find a good way to mount a couple Cebe (sp) lights on it though. Plus I just found out my backup lights do not work :-( The bulbs are good, so it must be somewhere else, typical for the week I am having. C'ya Joe- > ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ******************************************************** HAPPY Holi-Daze!!!![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 12:32:11 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: I BET INDY JOE HATES ME !! At 04:15 AM 12/19/96 EST, you wrote: >Joe, I hate to tell you this but, lately, I have been starting