Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:08:59 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: is the doc web site dead?? NO doc did some squirrely stuff with the files. If you go to my page and follow the link it will bring you into doc's page and then you can go to the fsj pages... http://www./~john/JEEP.html later, john -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jesus is the REASON FOR THE SEASON - He came, lived, died, rose, & will return. He conquered sin & death: now we can have PEACE & Eternal Life. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www./~john john-at- Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold. 81 (SJ) & 88 (xj) Jeep Wagoneer Limited -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Kenneth Wetherall > > >> I've been cruising web sites without much luck. Seems like all Jeep > >>Wranglers and Cherokees. > >> > > Try: http://www.inspace.net/~fariello/fsjhome.html > > > > There is a FSJ (Full Size Jeep) mailing list and a web site. > > I tried this out, but all the links in the page were dead. Maybe he shuffled > directories without updating the page ??? > > John. > > John Leveron KB0YPK / Internet Email: jmleveron-at-socketis.net > PGP 2047 bit key; strong encryption for the average citizen! > ----------- Use your vote or lose your rights! ----------- > "The Second Amendment guarantees all of the others . . ." > pub 2047/4120C76D 1995/11/16 John M. Leveron {[JML2048]} > PGP Public Key fingerprint = A0 19 3E 2D E4 31 02 97 > 87 FB 62 DA 9F 94 24 77 > > --------------4AEB36416A4--[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 17:45:15 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: congrats!!!! At 07:44 PM 12/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >12-16-96 3:09 PM 7 pounds 3 ounces....boy (yes!) Parker is his name...Mom >and baby are great....I even got some sleep last night, maybe tonight also! > > > Congrats to you!! Jim[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:04 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: about that CD... john <john-at-> writes: >> The key to finding information on that CD will be to figure out how they table their data. I work with several DBA's who could probably tell me what they did and I could try my hand at cutting some c code to get to it... :) << It does have graphics. 2 CDs and I'm sure over 1GB of data. I'll bet it's UNIX. Ever had the parts guys swing the monitor around and show you a exploded diagram so you could help choose the right parts? Thats what these CDs are. They say: Bell & Howell - - PAIS (Parts Access Information System) - Chrysler Electronic Parts Catalog Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> writes: >> I could take a look at the CD's for you. We do custom programming work. It's worth a shot. << Here is what I propose: How about we bicycle the discs around? I'll mail them to John first and if he can't figure them out, then he'll mail them to Jim. Jim to Jack, Jack to Mick and Mick to whoever else wants a shot at them. Of course, John has to promise not to whine and snivel too much when/if he passes them on first. :-) -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 18-Dec-1996 -------------------- Distribution: To: [74172,1164] -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:29 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: another wiper question john <john-at-> writes >> You ought to look at the setup for a Mercedes Benz that has ONE wiper for the entire windshield... way cool... << Yea, they're way cool until you have to buy a new blade from the dealer twice a year ($14 and you can't get'em at Pep Boys either) and put the thing back together occasionally because the tip gets accelerated so fast it has a tendancy to separate the blade parts :-(. How that for a run-on, off-subject, one sentence reply?, -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000AMGcHGkHH89EDB3[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:24 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (Potentially) Silly Question Matt Kirkwood <kirkwood-at-lsil.com> writes: >> > Were there any SJ's that were NOT 4WD? (Like XJ's that did have 2WD > versions.) Or more specifically, were there any Grand Wagoneers that > were not 4WD? Wow, this must have been a really silly question. Nobody responded. It must be safe to assume that all SJ's were 4WD. << AFAIK, there were some 2WD J-trucks along the way but, they are rather rare. The 109/110" WB FSJs only came in 2WD models way back. Like '63-'65. I don't know for sure, -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000DMGgHGpMHOHH93AFA3[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:18 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Cruise Control Malfunctions John Mettler <doogiezr-at-ix.netcom.com> writes: >> John, I had a problem in my Jeep that when I would be using cruise control and went to change lanes using the turn signal the cruise would cut out. Mine was the little harness the comes out of the multifunction switch and goes into the steering column was chaffed and was shorting out. I pulled off the multi. switch and replaced and all is fine... << I'm pretty sure Doogie is describing a problem he solved with the new style cruise that mounts the brain inside. What I'm about to tell you guys only applies (as far as I know) to the older style with the brain under the hood. If actuating the turn signal to change lanes shuts off the cruise, then you have a burned-out tail light on the opposite side from the direction you signalled. True story. Says so in the Service Manual and I have experienced it several times in the last ten years. Just consider it a burned-out brake light warning system, -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F0009MGkHGtHJR8567[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:34 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) writes: >> Joe-have you tried blowing out the gas lines from the front to the rear with compressed air leaving the tank hooked up << Joe, A couple of people have warned you already about taking the gas cap off before you do that but, it bears repeating a 3rd time. IF you pressurize the tank w/ the cap on and all the vent/smog lines are in good shape, you'll take a bath in gasoline when you remove your rubber tipped blow valve from the fuel line. Been there done that, -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000AMGjHGsHHA09125[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:46 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief Widetrac80-at-aol.com writes: >> Ive seen the fuel pump block off plates for SB chevy, and Fords but not an AMC, does it interchange with one of these? << I have heard an unconfirmed rumor that the SB Chevy block off plate will work on an AMC V-8 with slight mods. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F000AMGZHGcHGD550C2[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 20:48:42 EST From: Michael Baxter <74172.1164-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: still stuttering... Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> writes: >> It's definately fuel related. Running out of gas...it acts like the tank is empty. I stop...start it, dies, start it again it dies...start it and make it back home. It only seems to do this under load, not sitting idleing. << Joe, you a describing what my Chero. was doing back in June when I discovered the problem was the plug wires. Hurry up and get that fuel pressure gauge in line. That will tell you for sure if you are dealing with the ignition or the fuel system. >> Good idea...btw the carb on it came off the 78 j-10, it was a bit different than the one on the 79 Chief. seems one is a motorcraft 2100 and the other is a 2150. Dunno now which was which. Wonder which carb is best? Michael??? Yo Mikey? << Oh...I think Greg (?) already told you. 2150 is just a 2100 with an altitude compensation circuit. If you were going up to 5,000 ft. or higher a few time a year, the 2150 would be advantages. There are a few other diff. between the 2100 & 2150. Mainly the way the power valve is operated. -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 !^NavFont01F0016MG_HGhMGD8HHA2MI5FHJ4A755C[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 21:32:24 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: possible collection drive... > > Ever seen a 4-Door widebody? Ever tried to put big tires on a > narow-body? > > Nuf said... :) > > > Look here: http://home.sol.no/falmaas/fsjfrom.htm > > That's 38's on a four door :-)) > > Frank > Norway I've seen pictures of 38s on a 4-D00R, scarry. If you get into anything serious say bye-bye body. You could slap a set of 40s or maby even 42s on the same truck with the widebody option, ofcourse you will still be sacraficing your body. If you wanted to use 33 inchers with full articulation you need 7" of lift on a wagoneer or 3" on a widebody. You can use 32*11.50s on a stock widebody. with 7" of lift on a widebody you could run 38.5" tires. Chiefs are therefore much more stable. When I get a widebody 4 D00R then you will have something :) Karl Streich 79 Chief, 83 Wag[Back to Top]
Date: 19 Dec 96 21:32:28 EST From: "DOROTHY I. STREICH" <104346.766-at-CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: why joe is cold and gp, the story... > btw my GP won't start this morning!! All I here is the > solenoid clicking......whats next? Just plugged in the > block heater, will wait a while and see what happens. > Yea I know, shoulda done that last nite :-) > > C'ya > Joe- Try charging the battery...works every time for me:) Karl type person (with a sort of new battery) gotta get 2 of dem so I allways got a good one[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:02:55 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: etch primer At 11:28 PM 12/15/96, Alan Bennett wrote: >Jen Hen wrote: >> >> Wow, you tired ME out with that virtual journey. Stay indoors, the >> estimated price is enough. I'm going to order the calipers and master >> cylinder this week. Just went to NAPA today and ordered metal etch and >> primer. Will probably go w/ chassis black on the suspension and frame. >> >> Later! >> > >Might want to watch the metal etch primer if applied with >air powered gun, I can't say for sure (never tried it) but >a body man told me it will eat into the metal gun. The >body man recommended a plastic container for the paint. >Just something I was told. > >Later >Alan Bennett I hadn't heard of that, thanks for the tip, Alan. A bodyman Mark and I talked with at a run suggested applying the metal etch with a spray/squirt bottle but didn't explain why. I had heard that paint solvents eat into metal guns so you're supposed to do your mixing in a plastic cup. Again, thanks! Now I just need to get a water separator for the compressor (my sandblaster was caking up this weekend due to the rain and high humidity). Later! ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:03:14 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: we carry spares... At 3:22 PM 12/17/96, john wrote: >ok, so you really only need ONE door. if married, it's nice >to have that 2nd door... but since these vehicles aren't made >any more, let's look at the FOUR door models as carrying dual >redundant, but dissimilar spares... :) > >gotta have 'em, FOUR doors... anything less is half an FSJ..., >unless of course it's a Pickup... :) > >john In which case it's half an FSJ with double the carrying capacity! :=) Later! ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:03:07 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: ya never know... At 10:34 AM 12/16/96, john wrote: >ya never know what a rig is going to be like. it's a crap shoot. some folks >make a rig sound like it's on it's last legs, others, like your J10 friend make >it sound like it's a candidate for a classic auto show... usually it's >somewhere >in between. It's like a treasure hunt... unless it's at a used car lot, >then it's >usually a nightmare. That's what makes it so fun. Kinda like buying a house. It's like a game, or a battle. Your (the buyer's) job is to do some reconnaissance and test for weak spots, prying and poking and making tactical face gestures and comments here and there. The seller's job is to hedge, making explanations and turning up the radio so you won't hear that tapping noise... Kinda fun. And the best thing is, if you don't like the game, you can always walk away. Although ethics should prevent us from just going out and driving other people's cars without the intent of at least seriously considering a purchase. That's why I asked Jen twice if she really would like to have a GW before I called the guy. >When I bought Old Blue for $1,000 the rig was as advertised, a mechanics >special. I said >I had to try this, and asked them if they'd take a lower amount. They >said no, and I >said fine... :) (what kind of wheeler-dealer would I have been to pay >face value without >trying? :) I ought to stop buy the folks I bought him from and let them >check him out >now... > >later, >john I know what you mean. I'd like to go back to Paso Robles in Ole Bessy and show her to her previous owner. He'd probably like what I've done to her, especially since her external appearance hasn't changed much. BTW, saw a '87 GW, off-white/woody, straight body, 60,000 (!) miles, moonroof (hear that, John?!), new tires and brakes, new AC for $7,500. A little more than I'd want to pay but I want to check it out. One prob is that even though the body is supposedly straight and it has few miles, it has been repainted. Why? I don't know. Later! ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:03:01 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: brake bleeding Seeing as how I'm getting ready to buy a '76 or so master cylinder and proportioning valve for Ole Bessy, and just might own a GW in the nxt few months, I'd better start paying attention. Could you pls repost the complete correct instructions for us front-disc-brake impaired? Thanks! At 10:02 AM 12/16/96, john wrote: >> >> BRAKE BLEEDING: Below is the post on pushing that valve on the proportioning >> valve open. I made a mistake (surprise, surprise, surprise) and the little >> tool will hold the valve open, not closed, while you bleed the brakes. You >> could get your son to lay down there and hold it open with something but, >> he'll get tired of that long before you finish bleeding. > >would a large C clamp work? I think I could get one in there... > >> >> Did you bench bleed the new master cylinder? > >I did, but not the way I have in the past. The NAPA cylinder came plugged, >and the guy said to bench bleed it with the plugs in place... the instructions >said to keep pushing the piston in until it only would go 1/8th inch... that's >what I did. >> >> >> John, when you bleed the brakes you need to make a special tool. There is a >> little valve behind a rubber boot on the front of the proportioning >>valve. The >> service manual calls for depressing that valve. > >yeah, like usual I read the instructions after the fact... :) I found >your message >in my briefcase last night... thought I'd left them on the system, >printed and deleted... > >sheesh, living between electrons and paper can be SO confusing... :) > >Anyway, so what I need to do now is depress the plunger dealy bob and >bleed the brakes >again. Just the front, since I didn't mess with the back? The mechanic >that did the >rear brakes last summer probably didn't bleed the brakes properly either >then... There's >no evidence that he flushed my lines like I asked and the fittings on the >caliper were >rusted in place, even with a vise grip I couldn't get them out... > >john > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:06:06 -0500 From: jenhen-at-neca.com (Jen Hen) Subject: Re: congrats!!!! Yeah, congratulations! Don't get too used to the sleep though! Henry At 5:45 PM 12/19/96, Jim Sterling wrote: >At 07:44 PM 12/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >>12-16-96 3:09 PM 7 pounds 3 ounces....boy (yes!) Parker is his name...Mom >>and baby are great....I even got some sleep last night, maybe tonight also! >> >> >> >Congrats to you!! > >Jim > > > > >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > ============================================================= Henry & Jennifer Padilla '68 Jeep Wagoneer; Buick 350 thoughtfully installed by Kaiser '89 Jeep Cherokee Laredo home: jenhen-at-neca.com work: hpadilla-at-dttus.com[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 96 22:05:19 EST From: rdmbfe-at-micro.lucent.com (M_B_FEICK) Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief >Could I realistically expect an increased output? Not unless you've made enough 1/4 mi. passes to know that you picked up say ...01 sec. what about the extra load on the Alternator? Negligeable >I guess id need something with an electric pump... I didn't use one-it wouldn't hurt, but I don't think it's very critical on the 360 at least in the way we use them. Now, if it were an asphalt melting, axis shifting, mind numbing Buick Stage1 455 running a Brad Urbanski Q-jet... Brad Feick[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:28:07 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: congrats!!!! At 04:05 PM 12/19/96 -0800, you wrote: >> >> maybe someday Ill have the Dinero for these kinds of things! Right now Im >> broke, My fist child was born monday...I feel like a Father, im tired and >> broke... > Hey man, congrats!!!!!!! btw, what is your name? Hey I got children, how about 26, 23, 21, 19, 18, 15 5 oldest are boys, the youngest is a girl. I didn't have a BUD back then :-) Congrats again! Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:31:51 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: another wiper question > How that for a run-on, off-subject, one sentence reply?, Kewl![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:33:57 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief > Joe, A couple of people have warned you already about taking the gas cap off >before you do that but, it bears repeating a 3rd time. IF you pressurize the >tank w/ the cap on and all the vent/smog lines are in good shape, you'll take >a bath in gasoline when you remove your rubber tipped blow valve from the fuel >line. > > Been there done that, > From experience huh? Thanks for the warning, I will take off the cap first. ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ******************************************************** HAPPY Holi-Daze!!!![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:36:52 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: still stuttering... > Joe, you a describing what my Chero. was doing back in June when I discovered >the problem was the plug wires. > Hmmm, I have new wires, NAPA's best. > Hurry up and get that fuel pressure gauge in line. That will tell you for >sure if you are dealing with the ignition or the fuel system. > > Oh...I think Greg (?) already told you. 2150 is just a 2100 with an altitude >compensation circuit. If you were going up to 5,000 ft. or higher a few time a >year, the 2150 would be advantages. > > There are a few other diff. between the 2100 & 2150. Mainly the way the power >valve is operated. Ok, so "if" I were to buy a rebuilt carb, should I get the 2100 or 2150? I called today, same price, $119 exchange. I have both now. C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:39:29 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: why joe is cold and gp, the story... At 09:32 PM 12/19/96 EST, you wrote: >> btw my GP won't start this morning!! All I here is the >> solenoid clicking......whats next? Just plugged in the >> block heater, will wait a while and see what happens. >> Yea I know, shoulda done that last nite :-) >> >> C'ya >> Joe- > >Try charging the battery...works every time for me:) > >Karl type person (with a sort of new battery) gotta get 2 of dem so I allways >got a good one Karl, you are right, charged the battery, guess what? Some yo-yo left the snow plow control in the -down- position, thereby draining the battery. Yes and I take full credit for it too. C'ya too darn cold to remember all that stuff![Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:44:12 -0600 From: "Jeff Hess" <jhess169-at-edgerton.mn.frontiercomm.net> Subject: Re: Re:BSME You too? BSME, South Dakota State University, 1994 Jeff Hess 1988 Grand Wagoneer.[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:49:55 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: congrats!!!! name is Matt, located in fayetteville Arkansas...thanks all, you guys are a really friendly group!![Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:49:47 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Widetrac! it would act like any conventional 'idiot' light oil press switch!!! so if ur idiot light goes out after u start the jeep, that is if u HAVE an oil idiot light, then this would work too. I would suspect that it turns off at 2psi! Widetrac80-at-aol.com wrote: > > with my luck, it would never start...my oil pressure is probably always to > low, when does the switch cut off, below 5psi? -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 22:52:23 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Moon roof? did some of hese rigs come with a moon roof from the factory? Ive always wanted to install an aftermarket, but wife says no, she thinks it will leak!...[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:53:04 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: 2wd fsj??? YES the sixties FSJ's were sold as either 2wd or 4wd!!! iv SEEN em :) -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:54:48 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Stuttering Chief what u can do is to CUT off the arm of an oleAMC pump, and then bolt it in place, if ya cant get a normal blocke off plate!! Michael Baxter wrote: > > I have heard an unconfirmed rumor that the SB Chevy block off plate will work > on an AMC V-8 with slight mods. > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 1996 19:58:39 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Joe Sego dont tell me...they were ALL concieved in the winter time!! ;) Joe Sego wrote: > Hey man, congrats!!!!!!! btw, what is your name? > Hey I got children, how about 26, 23, 21, 19, 18, 15 > 5 oldest are boys, the youngest is a girl. I didn't > have a BUD back then :-) > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 21:59:49 -0600 From: "Jeff Hess" <jhess169-at-edgerton.mn.frontiercomm.net> Subject: Re: Jeep/Outdoor Channel > > > Jeff, > I subscribe to OnSat magazine, they have a special section > for network feeds. I watched tonite's ER last nite. Home > Improvement is on T-1 channel 6 about every 2 hours, guess > it's for the syndication stations, they're reruns. Always time > for a good -grunt- :-) I too subscribe to OnSat, I also have downloaded a feed list from the internet. I have found NFL games during the week on G9-3. It lets me catch up on the games that I missed on Sunday. Now for something Jeep related. We had almost 10 inches of snow last weekend. I thought that I could make it home from town during the blizzard. I made it almost exactly half way before I put the GW in the ditch. (I learned my lesson about driving with visibility less than 10 feet.) Put one wheel off the road into a four foot deep ditch. Fortunately the snow was still soft enough that the Wag didn't sustain any damage. I was making a path for my dad in his Ford Escort, so we turned that around and started heading back to town, thinking that it would be easier to follow our tracks back into town. Unfortunately, the tracks had already drifted shut and a 86 escort isn't 1/100th the snow machine that the GW is. Less than 1/4 mile later the Escort was stuck. I walked to a farm and a nice farmer pulled me out of the ditch with his tractor. I turned the Jeep around and picked my parents up from the escort. Mom force me to stop at the first farmhouse that we passed (I was convinced that the GW would make it back to town, if I could only see the road.) The GW spend the night in the open, just off the road, while I spent