Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:47:07 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: arrgg! replacement seats! Ive been to every junkyard in town, found some nice seats thtat match but none of them tilt far enough forward to leave access to back seat! (2 door widetrac) Anybody with a 2 door ever swapped seats, if so what did they come out of?[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:45:03 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: and like tiny tim said... > ..._________ \_ > .::://__||___|__|\_______ > .:::/ -___|===|-==|======-/ > .::::|_/ . \___|___|_/ . \_> > ________(_)___________(_)____ > >does that look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :) > (and a small lift kit? :) >(actually the sunroof SLIDES BACK... oh well...) >(also, OLD BLUE needs bigger tires... :) > Yea and two less doors! We need a chat room, seems several of us are online at the same time, plus the others wouldn't have to read all the playful bantering back and forth[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 13:42:04 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: SV: Question about lift > Thanks Frank for all the info. Got one more question, > Would this project had been easier if it were a wide > track Cherokee? With the flares and wider wheel openings? > Have a great weekend in Norway! > C'ya > Joe > Indy nope, you got an extra layer of rust, er metal to work with... :) besides, aren't the wide bodies most useful for trailer behind the family wagoneer? the wide bodies mean we can put more stuff inside, right? :) just kidding... fire pail sitting next to pc... (with sand in it... :) john[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:10:18 -0600
From: Greg_Loxtercamp-at-datacard.com (Greg Loxtercamp)
Subject: Re[2]: (No subject)
I got a 360 long block rebuild for $1K + core, with a two year
warantee. I upgraded from the $899 price to get a torqueyer cam. The
shop even had a core laying around, so I got it within a few days.
It's not too bad to put in, did that in another couple days. I even
ended with no leftover parts, cool, huh.
By the way, my name is Greg, EE in Mpls, where is was -13F this
morning. My car didn't start, but the ole' Wag always does (with the
biggest, baddest battery possible). I subscribed a few days ago, and
it's kinda fun listening to the conversations of my favorite subject,
FSJ's. I'll be gone till Monday, but I'll enjoy reading the many,
many messages (anybody else seem overwhelmed by all the messages?)
while kicking back at work.
One question you guys could respond to: I've got a '79 Wag, 4" lift,
QT. My next upgrade, should it be a low range QT xcase or some kind
of locking rear and/or front axles (and what kind / possible junkyard
special from what vehicle). I hate getting stuck because of ice under
two wheels.
If I don't make it in on Monday, have a merry X-MAS.
Matt, I worked with a Matt at LSI a few years ago on and ASIC with
DataCard. Was that you? Is Claudia still there? I also bought my
lift from some dude there with a mint J10, tell him HI.
Later, Greg
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Author: "Brad MacQuarrie" <bradmq-at-impactintl.com> at Internet
Date: 12/20/96 3:57 PM
> How much for the rebuild, and where?. Did you install/remove yourself? >
just wondering about the future
> mick
>
>
$1400 + core for a long block with 2 yr warantee from a local shop
did everything myself (of course i had a few friends and plenty of Sam
Adams)
I'm sure that the shop got the rebuild from some large distributor. I
could find out if you need the info ...
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:20:42 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: arrgg! replacement seats! At 04:47 PM 12/20/96 -0500, you wrote: >Ive been to every junkyard in town, found some nice seats thtat match but >none of them tilt far enough forward to leave access to back seat! (2 door >widetrac) Anybody with a 2 door ever swapped seats, if so what did they come >out of? Well I just put seats in out of a 4 dr Cherokee...mistake! They don't tilt at all. Fun climbing thru the arm rest space between buckets. Oh well who cares, its a snow pusher, not a grocery getter. I bought these sight unseen is why I didn't catch it until too late. C'ya Joe-[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:26:17 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: (No subject) Hey welcome aboard!!! You're covered too, a Wag and a Cherokee. > many messages (anybody else seem overwhelmed by all the messages?) > while kicking back at work. > If it's mine and John's messages you're probably under-welmed! > One question you guys could respond to: I've got a '79 Wag, 4" lift, > QT. My next upgrade, should it be a low range QT xcase or some kind > of locking rear and/or front axles (and what kind / possible junkyard > special from what vehicle). I hate getting stuck because of ice under > two wheels. All you need is the lowrange unit off another QT case. It was optional. You should not get stuck with ice under 2 tires with QT...well I guess it's possible...both my fsj's has limited slip rear ends. Have a great weekend! C'ya Joe -Indy- >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:31:17 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Re:BSEE/BSME/BSCE/BS and just plain ole' BS > >speaking of which, which one of you fine ME's would like to take on the design >of a set of barn doors for our beloved FSJ's??? > Good idea, where do I send the $$. The rear end of an fsj has to be the worst design anywhere. (I know large Blazers etc are the same) But you let the gate down and who's big enough to reach over it to put articles in rear compartment? I'm not. Same when it's up and glass is down, I can't reach over it to get things out. Have to stand on hitch. They need van doors....yea, I've had vans since the 70's...be perfect for a fsj. C'ya Joe- -Indy-[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 14:43:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Anhalt <tanhalt-at-earthlink.net> Subject: Re: BSEE's rule... :) At 11:09 AM 12/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >> At 10:06 AM 12/20/96 -0800, you wrote: >> >alright a real ENGINEER!!! :) >> >john > >a wannabe EE... >> >former circuit designer, >> >current s/w engineer type consultant working UNIX... :) >> What do you mean, a "real" engineer? You sparkies are always working with a >> "concept" called electricity. Have you ever SEEN an electron? (or a hole?);) >> Or an actual "1" or "0" ? > >to answer the question, YES. check out Scientific American circa 1981-82... :-P > That's not an actual picture. It's a computer representation of the measurements made by an instrument. Kind of like a solid model. >ever seen a punched card? a magnetic core? ever seen an LED? > the little holes in the cards are 1's, see 'em? when an LED lights up, that's a 1... :) > Aahhh.....again...those are REPRESENTATIONS of the ones and zeros. Numbers are conceptual. >> You can design up the best electrical circuit, software, or program in the >> world, but it doesn't do you any good until a good ol' ME packages it up >> into something you can use or sell! > >true, but the only modification to my design for the 737-500 was to fix a problem >that the mechanical type created by running the main power trace to close to the >supporting rail... :) > Sounds like you had a good design. Doesn't sound like the mechanical type checked his tolerancing very well. > you're cool, and my kind of people... that even goes for the non-degreed >folks who work a real trade, you know what I mean, mechanics, carpenters, plumbers, and >so on. I have great respect for these folks, they really are a lot smarter than degreed >folks give them credit for. Almost all of my friends are mechanically inclined or have >some understanding of physical science... I've seen better design skills displayed by >a non-degreed craftsman than some of the graduate school types with masters or doctorates... Ditto. A degree doesn't mean doodoo unless you've got some practical, hands-on knowledge to go with it. The fact that someone doesn't have a technical degree can just mean a lack of opportunity, not a lack of smarts. >TECHNOCRATS, let's band together... grab a wrench, a meter or a keyboard and show the >mechanically inept just how ignorant they are... but if they express curiosity, or interest, >or a willingness to help - BY GOLLY we just won another convert, welcome them in with open >arms... the arogant snob that turns their nose up at our technical work, well, let them >flounder, but do it politely... > A friend of mine always points out that it is pretty hard to find something around you that wouldn't exist if it weren't for engineers or technical types. -Tom Anhalt '81 Wide-Track Cherokee Laredo '65 Buick Special Convertible Santa Barbara, CA[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:11:36 -0500 From: Widetrac80-at-aol.com Subject: Re: arrgg! replacement seats! Mine is wife's daily ride, plus the only thing we have to put a baby seat in the back of...I have to get tilting seats...How far do blazer s10 seats tilt??[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:17:45 EST From: bill_hill-at-juno.com (Bill Hill) Subject: Coming out - non lurker Hi, I decided it was time to stop lurking and come out. My name is Bill and I live near Brooklyn Michigan. 20 miles from Jackson, in the Irish Hills part of the state. I have a 1977 Cherokee Chief with a 360, quadratrac and auto trans. Yes it is a two door. We bought this rust bucket new in 1977, it now has 105,000 on it. Very dependable transportation, but it is no longer a primary vehicle. Just wanted to say Hi and let everyone know I really enjoy all the talk on large Jeeps. Best Holiday Wishes, Bill[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:22:22 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Ed P.!! where did u find room to put the intake on the firewall??? -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:19:46 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: merry Christmas to all FSJ'ers!!!
joe,
snow doesn't weigh enough for ballast...
besides us folks with 4 doors usually keep it
nice and comfy inside... :)
besides that joe, we already figured out yer chief
is light in the aft end cause it's missing two doors... :)
>
> Yea if we cut a trail for you, you might be
> able to keep up with the extra ballast. :-)
>
> Think I'll go dig out my nomex suit, I'm
> expecting heat and flames real soon!
> anonymous
aka indy joe...
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:17:30 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: and like tiny tim said... CHAT ROOM?
>
> > ..._________ \_
> > .::://__||___|__|\_______
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> > .::::|_/ . \___|___|_/ . \_>
> > ________(_)___________(_)____
> >
> >does that look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
> > (and a small lift kit? :)
> >(actually the sunroof SLIDES BACK... oh well...)
> >(also, OLD BLUE needs bigger tires... :)
> >
> Yea and two less doors!
>
> We need a chat room, seems several of us are online
> at the same time, plus the others wouldn't have to read
> all the playful bantering back and forth
Since I actually have an IP address and can boot up into LINUX,
maybe in a couple of months I'll have my network up and running
and can do something like that on my box.
Does anybody know of a "chat room" type product for NT 4.0 Workstation?
Otherwise, we'll have to wait until I get Linux or BSD running on my 686...
ACTUALLY JOE, my wag needs TWO MORE DOORS - IN THE BACK... :)
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:27:29 -0500 From: Joe Sego <jsego-at-ai2a.net> Subject: Re: Coming out - non lurker At 06:17 PM 12/20/96 EST, you wrote: >Hi, > I decided it was time to stop lurking and come out. My name is >Bill and I live near Brooklyn Michigan. 20 miles from Jackson, in the >Irish Hills part of the state. I have a 1977 Cherokee Chief with a 360, >quadratrac and auto trans. Yes it is a two door. We bought this rust >bucket new in 1977, it now has 105,000 on it. Very dependable >transportation, but it is no longer a primary vehicle. Just wanted to >say Hi and let everyone know I really enjoy all the talk on large Jeeps. > >Best Holiday Wishes, >Bill > > Howdy Bill, Nice to see another new guy on the block. Especially a Cherokee 2 dr driving kinda guy from the midwest! I know that part of Michigan, we go the races near Brooklyn every year. Have a good weekend. C'ya joe- Indy >--------------------------------------------------- >To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > > > ******************************************************** *1979 Cherokee Chief 360-QT-Th-400-Red 110,000 mi. * *1978 Jeep J-10 Levi 360-QT-Th-400-Brown- parts donor * *ARS KJ9D - Joe Sego Indianapolis, Indiana * *jsego-at-ai2a.net - home page http://ai2a.net/~jsego/ * ******************************************************** HAPPY Holi-Daze!!!![Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:23:10 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: WE UNDERSTAND.... :) > > > >you have one of those engines missing 2 cylinders, which may be the case, > >especially since you might have one of those rebadged wagoneers missing > >two doors... :) > > > > Oh brother, here we go again! > > Don't get us 2 dr types started...... I missed, shoot, I was aiming at the six cylinders... later, john[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:36:13 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Hey guys..what ya think about these stickers!!!!! dont send to me...send to the add on the email that i sent to the list!!! DOROTHY I. STREICH wrote: > > >>>Finally, we have enough names to order the > "It's a Jeep Thing... You Wouldn't Understand!" > stickers!<<< > > Where can I see a preview of these??? Why is it now that I only have $14 and > need $15? > > >>>***Orders received by December 21st, 1996 will be elligible to purchase > additional stickers (maximum 4 additional stickers per order) for only > $5 each to the same address! After December 21st, additional stickers > will be $8 each.***<<< > > Today is the 19th...does this count as an order???if I send you 20 bucks > tomorrow and you get it next week do I get 3 Stickers (OK, static-cling-things) > > Signing off > Karl Streich > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:38:49 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: Widetrac owners help ah Mike, u cant legthen the shackles to get a lift on the post 75 FSJ!!! u would have to reweld the rear spring frame mount!! Michael Baxter wrote: > > Widetrac80-at-aol.com writes: > > >> My rear sags a little more than the front already, could I add some > slightly longer spring shackles to level? I am hesitant to use blocks as I tow > stuff frequently.. << > > If you lengthen your rear shackles, you'll lower the rear suspension. Go look > and you'll see what I mean. > > In general, "they" don't recommend lengthening shackles to gain lift anymore > (which will work on your front end). You screw-up the pinion angles, caster if > you do it to the front end, etc. > > -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter > From Reno, NV USA on 20-Dec-1996 > > !^NavFont01F000AMGZHGaHH9897D8 > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 15:46:25 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: BSME ahh, i can spell my name!! Matt Kirkwood wrote: > > Jeff Gunn wrote: > > > > On Dec 19, 9:36am, John Brewer wrote: > > > Subject: Re: Re:BSME > > > > > > >I assume you also have a BS ME since you were asking about mine? All > > us > > > >Jeepers are technical in one way or the other... > > > > > > > >Jeff > > > > > > Gotta love it. > > > > > > John Brewer, BS Physics, MSAE, Auburn University > > > > > > > > > "Any man who would trade liberty for security deserves neither." > > > Benjamin Franklin > > > > > >-- End of excerpt from John Brewer > > > > See what I mean? > > > > Anyone else... > > > > Jeff > > Uh, yup. I was trying to keep it quiet, but I'm an EE. > > -Matt Kirkwood, BEE (for some reason they left out the "S"), > University of Minnesota, 1993. > kirkwood-at-LSIL.com > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > > -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 15:53:43 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: Coming out - non lurker Bill, be careful how you declare your intention to exit the lurking mode... :) some words just tend to be more loaded than others... :) Had your 2drless since new, eh? I looked at a brand new, guess it would have been a 77, at the PX in Frankfurt, nice looking rig. Two things made me walk away, $6000 that I didn't have, and the missing back doors... :) Even before we had kids the 4 doors almost always seemed to work out nicer. but that's ok. even though your rig is missing two doors, it's still a JEEP and you're still welcome. :) at least ya got all 8 cylinders... :) feel free to jump in anytime Bill... john > > Hi, > I decided it was time to stop lurking and come out. My name is > Bill and I live near Brooklyn Michigan. 20 miles from Jackson, in the > Irish Hills part of the state. I have a 1977 Cherokee Chief with a 360, > quadratrac and auto trans. Yes it is a two door. We bought this rust > bucket new in 1977, it now has 105,000 on it. Very dependable > transportation, but it is no longer a primary vehicle. Just wanted to > say Hi and let everyone know I really enjoy all the talk on large Jeeps. > > Best Holiday Wishes, > Bill[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:00:20 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: BSEE's rule... :)
> >to answer the question, YES. check out Scientific American circa
> 1981-82... :-P
> >
> That's not an actual picture. It's a computer representation of the
> measurements made by an instrument. Kind of like a solid model.
are you sure you're looking at the right issue? They had a scanning
electronic microscope picture of an electron... it wasn't a very good
picture... but it was a picture... :)
>
> Ditto. A degree doesn't mean doodoo unless you've got some practical,
> hands-on knowledge to go with it. The fact that someone doesn't have a
> technical degree can just mean a lack of opportunity, not a lack of smarts.
very true. the best engineers are the kind of folks like us, with some hands
on curiosity, or folks who've been mechanics or electronic technicians...
the worst engineers are math majors who wouldn't know a fan belt from a
bungee cord...
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 18:07:59 -0600 From: David Greenwell <dgreenwe-at-computek.net> Subject: Re: BSEE/BSME/BSCE/BS and just plain ole' BS Joe Sego wrote: > > > > >speaking of which, which one of you fine ME's would like to take on the > design > >of a set of barn doors for our beloved FSJ's??? > > > > Good idea, where do I send the $$. The rear end of an fsj has to be the > worst design anywhere. (I know large Blazers etc are the same) But > you let the gate down and who's big enough to reach over it to > put articles in rear compartment? I'm not. Same when it's up and glass > is down, I can't reach over it to get things out. Have to stand > on hitch. They need van doors....yea, I've had vans since the > 70's...be perfect for a fsj. > Don't take my tailgate!!! Being the past owner of a BroncoII and the brother of an owner of two Troopers, I can tell you, that couch sized tailgate can come in pretty handy in all sorts of situations, like moving items to large to fit inside, picnics, dove hunting, and other occasions when its nice to have a place to sit rather than sitting on the ground. A couple of questions while I'm being vocal (non-lurking). 1. I have Select-Trac. Would lock-out hubs help my gas milage. 2. I had a rebuild done a couple of months ago ($1250 installed) How long should it take for the rings to seat. I seam to have a lot of blow by still after 3500 miles. Hey its cold down here too. We actually broke freezing today. Dave G. Dallas TX[Back to Top]
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 16:13:19 -0800 From: "Kenneth E. Wetherall" <kenns-at-concentric.net> Subject: Re: and like tiny tim said... CHAT ROOM? six doors!! a new flame thread!!!! john wrote: > ACTUALLY JOE, my wag needs TWO MORE DOORS - IN THE BACK... :) > > later, > john -- Sincerely Kenneth Wetherall kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:07:16 -0800 (PST) From: john <john-at-> Subject: Re: BSME I'm biting my lip Ken. :) Besides, if you can spell, that means you're probably NOT an engineer :) You're just another one of us non-degreed type technical folks... Your spring over on the super says more about your technical ablilities than a piece of paper that says you sat through classes... If I was going to design something mechanical, you'd certainly be one of the folks I'd want to talk with... You wouldn't believe the number of engineers I've tried to explain simple things about cars to... john > ahh, i can spell my name!! > -- > Sincerely > Kenneth Wetherall > kenns-at-concentric.net[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:31:30 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: BSEE/BSME/BSCE/BS and just plain ole' BS
>
> > >speaking of which, which one of you fine ME's would like to take on the
> > design > > >of a set of barn doors for our beloved FSJ's??? > > >
>
> Don't take my tailgate!!!
(if you read my detailed spec (and COULD understand it, since it's not
very good... :) You'd know that the lower part of the doors should somehow
magically serve the tailgate function as well as all that other cool stuff... :)
I've hauled all kinds of plywood, sheetrock, doors and so in my FSJ's, they're great.
>
> Being the past owner of a BroncoII and the brother of an owner of two
> Troopers, I can tell you, that couch sized tailgate can come in pretty
> handy in all sorts of situations, like moving items to large to fit
> inside, picnics, dove hunting, and other occasions when its nice to have
> a place to sit rather than sitting on the ground.
I do however like my little wagoneer's hatch for staying out of the rain...
sure, the seating area is a little smaller... but what the heck, at least it's
usually dry... :)
>
> A couple of questions while I'm being vocal (non-lurking).
> 1. I have Select-Trac. Would lock-out hubs help my gas milage.
not very much, if any. On the XJ's Jeep estimates the permanently
locked axles represent about .1 mpg loss, there is a "dot" in front of that one...
You're already better off than those of us w/ full-time systems... although Old blue
gets a crappy mileage as my old 67 with a manual trans, dana 20 and hubs... so I'm
not sure if you even want to bother with it...
>
> 2. I had a rebuild done a couple of months ago ($1250 installed) How
> long should it take for the rings to seat. I seam to have a lot of blow
> by still after 3500 miles.
what kind of rings were in the rebuild? What kind of oil are you using?
If they are chrome rings it could be a while... If you're using a very good oil,
stop it. :) Don't EVEN think about breaking an engine in with a Synthetic...
I'd say 500 to 1,000 miles is the norm with moly or cast rings...
If they used chrome it could take longer, not sure...
> Hey its cold down here too. We actually broke freezing today.
> Dave G. > Dallas TX
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:02:23 -0500 From: RichHolley-at-aol.com Subject: Stickers??!!?? In a message dated 96-12-20 03:06:09 EST, you write: << >>>Finally, we have enough names to order the "It's a Jeep Thing... You Wouldn't Understand!" stickers!<<< Where can I see a preview of these??? Why is it now that I only have $14 and need $15? >>>***Orders received by December 21st, 1996 will be elligible to purchase additional stickers (maximum 4 additional stickers per order) for only $5 each to the same address! After December 21st, additional stickers will be $8 each.***<<< Today is the 19th...does this count as an order???if I send you 20 bucks tomorrow and you get it next week do I get 3 Stickers (OK, static-cling-things) >> Hi all, didn't get the msg on these things....who do I need to talk to about these??? I would like at least one, maybe two....please let me know.. Rich[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 16:57:03 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: systems engineer...
> Brad MacQuarrie
> *******************
> '75 Cherokee Chief > '84 Grand Wagoneer > '90 Cherokee Laredo (little Jeep for the wife :) ) --------------------
>
> Systems Engineer
> Impact International
Brad,
You never mentioned what you do at Impact...
later,
john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:04:25 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: projection & weiand manifold > > Brad MacQuarrie wrote: > > yes it is a closed loop with 5/16" line from the stock sending unit thru an > > in line Holley supplied pump, thru a little filter, up to the firewall, the > > thru a monster inline filter. Then into the Projection. There's a return > > line from the Projection back to the tank. This is the 2 jet projection > > which specs 5/16" being enough (4 jet req's at least 1/4"). Matt Kirkwood wrote: > Where is your pump located. I understand that the Holly supplied pump > is really sensitive to location with respect to the bottom of the tank. > It needs to be placed close to the tank and as close to the bottom of > the tank as possible. The Holly pump does not suck fuel very well and > ideally will be able to siphon fuel from the tank. I was going to mention the same thing as Matt. A friend mounted his pump as high as he could, in an attempt to keep it out of the mud etc. He had the same symptoms as you. After he lowered the pump to tank level, all the problems disappeared. Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 20:05:44 -0500 From: Ron <rgeer-at-summit.net> Subject: Re: Cruise Control Malfunctions Michael Baxter wrote: > No Ron, the underhood cruise brain is fine. The later under-dash cruise may > be more reliable but, if your older unit is working by all means use it on > your '77. How difficult would the swap be. It looks like the speedo cables would not be a problem, but I'm not sure about the switch in the steering column (never had one of those apart), and any of the rest of the wiring harness. I don't know if the brain does work. Could I install it with the switch dangling first, to see if it works, then put the switch were it belongs, later. Thanks, Ron[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:16:41 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: possible collection drive... At 09:32 PM 12/19/96 EST, you wrote: > >> > Ever seen a 4-Door widebody? Ever tried to put big tires on a >> narow-body? >> > Nuf said... :) >> > >> Look here: http://home.sol.no/falmaas/fsjfrom.htm >> >> That's 38's on a four door :-)) >> >> Frank >> Norway > >I've seen pictures of 38s on a 4-D00R, scarry. If you get into anything serious >say bye-bye body. You could slap a set of 40s or maby even 42s on the same >truck with the widebody option, ofcourse you will still be sacraficing your >body. If you wanted to use 33 inchers with full articulation you need 7" of >lift on a wagoneer or 3" on a widebody. You can use 32*11.50s on a stock >widebody. with 7" of lift on a widebody you could run 38.5" tires. Chiefs are >therefore much more stable. When I get a widebody 4 D00R then you will have >something :) > >Karl Streich >79 Chief, 83 Wag > Back in the 80's there was a company that sold the wide body flares for the 4doors. I found one of my old copies of 4WHEEL or Offroad, dont remember which, and called that company. They no longer make the flares. What a shame. I seen them on a 4door once, looked real nice. I was going to put a set on my 83 non widetrac Cherokee, but not available any more :( Perhaps if a few people are interested I could look up the company again, and MAYBE, they would sell the molds to us. What do you think??? Jim[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 19:21:02 -0600 From: David Greenwell <dgreenwe-at-computek.net> Subject: Re: Ringing questions Thanks for the feedback on the hubs. I really don't miss having to get out to engage them or that darn end gate slapping me in the back of the head after the struts wore out... As far as the rings I can't find anywhere on the papers where it states what kind of rings are used. I did notice that the guys who did my first oil change after the rebuild used 20w-50 oil. I guess they were following the previous change when I was using heavy oil to maintain oil pressure. Its time for fresh oil. I think I'll put in something a little lighter and see if it helps. Thanks DaveG Dallas TX > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jesus is the REASON FOR THE SEASON > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > http://www./~john john-at- > Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold. > 81 (SJ) & 88 (xj) Jeep Wagoneer Limited > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------- > To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command > "unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. > >[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:19:37 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: Re: Stickers??!!??
Rich,
I saw a preview of the JEEP-L stickers, and read about
these a while back... don't know if they have a
preview of it, but visualize what clear plastic looks
like, kind of thick saran wrap, with white letters,
3" x 30"... :)
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mail direct to Mike McAuley, PO BOx 10514,
Fort Irwin, CA 92310
$10 for one, $15 for 2 , $20 for 3
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Be sure to put your email address ON the envelope
AND mark it FSJ.
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I got email from Mike this morning with those instructions.
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However, if you do decide to order, be SURE TO EMAIL
him to let you know you're ordering, his email is:
mac37-at-usa.net
that is all,
john
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
just noticed, looks like he lost his roof rack :(
81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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[Back to Top]Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:30:10 -0800 From: Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> Subject: Re: about that CD... At 09:30 PM 12/19/96 -0800, you wrote: >Michael, why don't you let Jim take the first shot it, I'd be >glad to provide any specific UNIX info he might need. If he's >doing custom C work, he's probably the best qualified to figure >out how they table it. I'm consulting for a public utility >company right now and they don't even have a C compiler on >their UNIX boxes!!!!! That means I'd have to work in Linux >to try and break it, and I tell ya what, I like programming >about as much as any systems analyst... (If I wanted to >program, I'd be a programmer... :) > >Oh, BTW, Bell& Howell sell a proprietary system to dealers, I'll >try to contact my dealer friend and see if he has any friends that >have that equipment. Jim and I might be able to figure out a >way of porting the embedded data over. > >It's gonna be a lot of effort, but honestly, if Jim's shop does >custom coding, they will be far better equipped to do it... > >thanx for the vote of confidence Michael... But I know it'd >take me two to three times as long to figure it out as someone >that works with C on a regular basis... they'll be able to >play around with parsing the existing data until it falls out >into nice clean tables... > >john > >At 08:48 PM 12/19/96 EST, Michael Baxter wrote: >> john <john-at-> writes: >> >> >> The key to finding information on that CD will be to figure out how they >>table their data. I work with several DBA's who could probably tell me what >>they did and I could try my hand at cutting some c code to get to it... :) << >> >> It does have graphics. 2 CDs and I'm sure over 1GB of data. I'll bet it's >>UNIX. >> >> Ever had the parts guys swing the monitor around and show you a exploded >>diagram so you could help choose the right parts? Thats what these CDs are. >>They say: >> >> Bell & Howell - - PAIS (Parts Access Information System) - Chrysler >>Electronic Parts Catalog >> >> >> Jim Sterling <sterling-at-jetlink.net> writes: >> >> >> I could take a look at the CD's for you. We do custom programming work. >>It's worth a shot. << >> >> >> Here is what I propose: How about we bicycle the discs around? I'll mail them >>to John first and if he can't figure them out, then he'll mail them to Jim. >>Jim to Jack, Jack to Mick and Mick to whoever else wants a shot at them. >> >> Of course, John has to promise not to whine and snivel too much when/if he >>passes them on first. :-) >> >> -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter >> From Reno, NV USA on 18-Dec-1996 >> >> >> -------------------- >> >> >> >> Distribution: >> >> To: [74172,1164] >> >> -- Michael Baxter at 74172.1164-at-Compuserve.com >> http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/MBaxter >> From Reno, NV USA on 19-Dec-1996 >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------- >>To Unsubscribe send email to macjordomo-at-listserver.tehabi.com with the command >>"unsubscribe FSJ-List" in the body of the message. >> >> >> >> > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > While we celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ at Christmas, it is > more likely that he was born in August. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >john-at- http://www./~john > 81 (SJ) & 88 (XJ) Jeep Wagoneer Limited > Snohomish, WA - where jeeps don't rust, they mold. >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Real freedom comes from knowing Him who made us free... >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'll be glad to take a look first. I will be out of town until Jan6. If yo send it to me, soon, It will be here when I get back and can start right on it. Send it to : Jim Sterling Southwest Data Systems 1418 Graham St. Simi Valley, CA 93065 805 579 8998 805 570 8190 fax jsterling-at-businessbasic.com Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to All[Back to Top]
Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 17:23:08 -0800 (PST)
From: john <john-at->
Subject: FSJ engineering company?
>
> a few people are interested I could look up the company again, and MAYBE,
> they would sell the molds to us. What do you think???
> Jim
Ok, let's see, so far we're going to make 4-way dutch style barn doors to
replace the tailgates,
We're gonna get flares...
perhaps brush guards...
any other ideas????
From a business standpoint we're in deep doodoo as far as the assembly line
and meetings go... the mileage reports will be a killer :)
john
with a "new" pirated & modified sig file... :)
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does this look like a 4 door with a sunroof? :)
81 Wagoneer Ltd & 88 wagoneer ltd
john-at- http://www./~john
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